I have a lot of writing friends who are pursuing traditional publication. (lindacassidylewis.com)
But judging from the online conversations I had with writing friends over the past couple of days, it certainly feels that way to many of us. (jamigold.com)
I have so many writing friends who are part of writing groups that do just this, and the results are always a lot of manuscripts not being sold. (deanwesleysmith.com)