Not exact matches
It also eliminates much
of the uncertainty surrounding potentially ill effects; whereas various mathematical models may disagree about when and at what concentrations Arctic
Ocean sea ice disappears, they all agree that at roughly 3 degrees
C of warming, the far north will be ice - free.
As Stephen
C. Riser and M. Susan Lozier note in their February 2013 Scientific American article, «Rethinking the Gulf Stream,» «A comparison
of the Argo data with
ocean observations from the 1980s, carried out by Dean Roemmich and John Gilson
of the Scripps Institution
of Oceanography, shows that the upper few hundred meters
of the
oceans have
warmed by about 0.2 degree
C in the past 20 years.
«There is an event documented in sediments from 55 million years ago called the Paleocene Eocene Thermal Maximum, during which (allegedly) several thousand Gton
C of methane was released to the atmosphere and
ocean, driving 5 °
C warming of the intermediate depth
ocean.
The East Pacific
Ocean (90S - 90N, 180 - 80W) has not
warmed since the start
of the satellite - based Reynolds OI.v2 sea surface temperature dataset, yet the multi-model mean
of the CMIP3 (IPCC AR4) and CMIP5 (IPCC AR5) simulations
of sea surface temperatures say, if they were
warmed by anthropogenic forcings, they should have
warmed approximately 0.42 to 0.44 deg
C.
South
of Spitzbergen, the
oceans have been ice free the past 2 winters, reason being, the
warm waters from the Gulf Stream are travelling further north, and closer to the
ocean surface, only 25 meters at the last measurement, The
ocean temperature has been +2
C instead
of -2
C.
Despite continuous injection
of a large amount
of very cold (− 15 ◦
C) water in these pure freshwater experiments, substantial portions
of the
ocean interior become
warmer.
Well in the Southern (Antarctic)
Ocean, a warming of 0.03 C per decade and in other ocean abysses, a warming of 0.003 C per de
Ocean, a
warming of 0.03
C per decade and in other
ocean abysses, a warming of 0.003 C per de
ocean abysses, a
warming of 0.003
C per decade.
By 2100, the
ocean uptake rate
of 5 Gt
C yr - 1 is balanced by the terrestrial carbon source, and atmospheric CO2 concentrations are 250 p.p.m.v. higher in our fully coupled simulation than in uncoupled carbon models2, resulting in a global - mean
warming of 5.5 K, as compared to 4 K without the carbon - cycle feedback.
At 4 W / m ^ 2 and about 1 billion cubic km
of ocean to
warm by 10
C, I think that comes to 600 or 700 years.
5 Earth's surface and deep
ocean waters
warmed by ∼ 5 ◦
C,
of which part may have oc - curred prior to the CIE.. However, few records document continental climatic trendsand changes in seasonality have not been documented.
Yes, the
oceans are
warming but these trends are 10 % to 20 %
of the predicted surface
warming trend
of about 0.2
C per decade.
All siding with its infinite growth paradigm, so I'm not surprised to see you writing counter-pieces to the harsh truth, which, as it stands, is that we have a pretty much dead and severely
warming ocean, daily record - breaking jet - stream related weather incidents, which in turn are caused by polar temperature anomalies
of +20
C as
of late.
Some really interesting recent weather events in the High Arctic have shown me the reality
of a
warmer polar region, snow flakes do not melt in an
ocean -1.5
C cold, and ice does not form when its -6
C outside.
I then applied a 1 watt / sq meter forcing to a 10 meter thick slab
of ocean and he atmosphere above to get a
warming of 0.6
C per year.
The current energy imbalance at the surface (as demonstrated by the increasing heat content
of the
oceans) implies there is at least a further 0.5 deg
C surface
warming in the «pipeline».
The surface heat capacity
C (j = 0) was set to the equivalent
of a global layer
of water 50 m deep (which would be a layer ~ 70 m thick over the
oceans) plus 70 %
of the atmosphere, the latent heat
of vaporization corresponding to a 20 % increase in water vapor per 3 K
warming (linearized for current conditions), and a little land surface; expressed as W * yr per m ^ 2 * K (a convenient unit), I got about 7.093.
If we assume that delivering energy volcanically is associated with about 1 %
of the energy beg released as potential / kinetic energy, this means that a 1
C warming (sufficient energy to melt 1.25 %
of the ice cover) would be associated with a potential / kinetic energy equivalent to lifting the
ocean bed some 4 meters, which would generate an enormous tsunami.
If the
oceans aren't «
warmed» by LW radiation then how come they are not significantly cooler than we see, closer to the -18
C of a non ghg world?
There is so little understanding about how the
ocean parses its response to forcings by 1) suppressing (local convective scale) deep water formation where excessive
warming patterns are changed, 2) enhancing (local convective scale) deep water formation where the changed excessive
warming patterns are co-located with increased evaporation and increased salinity, and 3) shifting favored deep water formation locations as a result
of a) shifted patterns
of enhanced
warming, b) shifted patterns
of enhanced salinity and
c) shifted patterns
of circulation which transport these enhanced
ocean features to critically altered destinations.
This single pattern has a long - term global
warming rate
of 0.06 deg
C per decade and an oscillation due to
ocean cycles (http://bit.ly/nfQr92)
of 0.5 deg
C every 30 years as shown in the following two graphs.
The
oceans would appear to need to
warm up by about 0.1
C to match that
of previous years.
Since the
oceans are the main thermal energy storage
of the Earth and they happen to be at ~ 3.89
C, and they receive the vast majority
of their energy from the sun in the tropics, what total
warming that can be expected from a doubling
of CO2 is total dependent on the
oceans.
We have estimated an increase
of 24 X 10 ^ 22 J repre - senting a volume mean
warming of 0.09
C of the 0 — 2000 m layer
of the World
Ocean.
There is some correlation between changes in temperature due to global
warming in different parts
of the
ocean, so there might be some reduction below 0.1
C, but how much and how has it been measured?
If that is indeed the case then any apparent
warming of 0.02
C as shown in graphs 1 and 2 is just noise and there is no evidence
of any
warming of the
Oceans in the ARGO data.
The surface temperatures may have stagnated, but the
oceans have inexorably continued
warming at a rate
of 0.016
C per decade.
Year 2013: surface skin has wamed a tiny fraction
of 1
C (not shown for comparison simplicity) and
ocean mixing will not permit it to balance within 0.003
C at the sub-skin (maybe also
ocean happens to mix heat down a tad faster due to a natural variation), now will only let 1.441 mm to < several tens - to - hundreds
of metres > depth
warm by 0.69462
C instead
of prior 0.697
C (
ocean - air interface at 0.70000
C).
--
Ocean warming is being reported in the tiniest units possible (joules)-- a unit that means nothing to the general public, but sounds «big» (because there's a bunch
of them); if it were reported in degrees
C (which people can relate to), the
warming would be a few thousandths
of a degree per year
If the 1.441 mm depth had
warmed by 0.700
C same as the
ocean - air interface then
oceans would gain no heat, but the massive colder
oceans below will only let 1.441 mm to < several tens - to - hundreds
of metres > depth
warm by 0.697
C and only when the entire
ocean has
warmed by 0.700
C in a few thousand years will it let that 1.441 mm depth
warm the final 0.003
C and stop heat gain with 4,100 ZettaJoules
of heat having been added to the
oceans, enough to melt 13,666,666 cubic kilometres
of ice.
As
of now the consensus estimate
of ocean warming is total basin up by 0.02
C per decade.
temperature: 1,000 m depth temperature = 5
C thermal conductivity
of seawater 0.58 W / mK
ocean - air interface = 17.000
C 1.441 mm depth temperature = 17.400
C (the
warmest spot in the
ocean depth though the «few metres»
of depth below it is only a miniscule bit colder, all
warmed by Sun SWR) this top 1.441 mm depth is the «skin» and «sub-skin» 100m depth temperature certain in range 16.090
C to 17.400
C but virtually certain > 17
C because
of mixing top ~ 90m temperature gradient
of top 1.441 mm
of ocean is 277.6 Celsius / metre By conductivity, temperature gradient pushes 161.00 w / m ** 2 up from 1.441 mm depth to
ocean - air interface which precisely removes the Sun's 161 w / m ** 2 going into the top few metres depth and leads to no
ocean warming.
Your political views have nothing whatsoever to do with the physical facts
of increasing CO2 due to our emissions, the
warming that will cause (~ 1.1
C / doubling), the feedbacks that will occur (to a total
of about 3
C / doubling), crop movements, sea level rise,
ocean acidification, precipitation changes, etc..
Yes, while the
oceans surfaces are apparently in a «cool phase», the land is in a
warming phase
of roughly 0.3
C per decade.
Under a moderate emissions scenario (RCP4.5), where greenhouse gas concentrations in the atmosphere stabilise around the 2050s,
ocean temperatures in the study area would be around 1.4
C warmer than a baseline period
of the 2000s.
The data indicate the sea surface temperatures
of the tropical
oceans warmed at a not - very - alarming rate
of 0.11 deg
C / decade, while the models indicate that, if the surfaces
of the tropical
oceans were
warmed by manmade greenhouse gases, they should have
warmed at almost 2 times that rate, at 0.22 deg
C / decade.
# 24 «If CO2 emissions continue on their current trends, earth is on course to be 2.6 - 4.8
C (4.7 - 8.6 F) degrees
warmer and the
oceans could be up to a meter higher by the end
of this century.
Because
of the land mass choke points that reduce northward
ocean flow, it takes longer to cool the
oceans in the NH which is why the average SST
of the NH is about 3
C warmer than the SH.
The mixed layer
of the
ocean is currently
warming at 0.05
C / decade.
(Fingerprint studies draw conclusions about human causation that can be deduced from: (a) how the Earth
warms in the upper and lower atmosphere, (b)
warming in the
oceans, (
c) night - time vs day - time temperature increases, (d) energy escaping from the upper atmosphere versus energy trapped, (e) isotopes
of CO2 in the atmosphere and coral that distinguish fossil CO2 from non-fossil CO2, (f) the height
of the boundary between the lower and upper atmosphere, and (g) atmospheric oxygen levels decrease as CO2 levels increase.
According to Levitus et al 2012 the
oceans to a depth
of 2000 meters have
warmed by about 0.1
C between 1955 — 2010.
To quote «Proof is obtained by considering the contrary: ice sheet forcing approximately 3W / m ^ 2 and a 5 kyr timing gap between forcing and response, as appears to be the case at Termination IV (figure 2
c), is 15,000 W yr / m ^ 2, enough to
warm the upper kilometre
of the
ocean by approximately 160
C» (pdf page 7) This is his justification for modifying the data - not my «characterization»
of what he said.
c) That the Arctic has only
warmed because
of AGW and not as a side effect
of warmer ocean water flowing into the Arctic Circle.
With earth melt 1.4 x 10 ^ 21 kg ice is 334 kJ / kg times 1.4 x 10 ^ 21 which is 46.7 x x 10 ^ 22 KJ So to heat ice from 273 K to 274 K require more joules than the atmosphere
of Venus requires to heat from 20 K to 737 K. To
warm the
ocean from 276 [3
C] to 13
C Requires 10 times 4.2 times 1.4 x 10 ^ 21 which is 5.88 x 10 ^ 22
The 24X1022 Joules represent, in the scheme
of things, a tiny
warming of the
oceans - a barely measurable total
of +0.09
C degrees over 55 years.
This suggests three levels
of skepticism even in Muller's mind: a) global
warming which in the context means the land temperature record (not the
ocean heat as Pielke Sr would prefer) b) its human causes (where Judith Curry also parts company with Muller) and
c) what can and should be done about b).
And study authors found that 2
C to 5
C warming of local
ocean waters with somewhat greater local air temperature increases was capable of flooding these basins in stages — forcing Totten's glacial ice to flow out into the Southern Ocean and provide significant contributions to sea level
ocean waters with somewhat greater local air temperature increases was capable
of flooding these basins in stages — forcing Totten's glacial ice to flow out into the Southern
Ocean and provide significant contributions to sea level
Ocean and provide significant contributions to sea level rise.
By last week, a model study had found that Totten alone could produce nearly a meter
of sea level rise before the end
of this Century if global
warming forces
ocean waters to heat up by 2
C or more near the Totten Glacier.
I got a most probable value
of 1.55
C / doubling, a 17 % to 83 % range
of 1.41
C to 3.27
C / doubling, and a 5 % to 95 % range
of 1.18
C to 6.2
C / doubling... not far from your values (but I assumed a little higher total heat accumulation, including deep
ocean uptake equal to 10 %
of the 0 - 2000M value, and some additonal heat for ice melt and land mass
warming).
If all heat in the air supposedly caused by global
warming were to enter the surface
of the
oceans to a depth
of 100 meters, the temperature increase would be 0.025 degrees
C, and none would be left in the air.
However, the loss
of such a massive ice berg from Larsen
C, the present human - forced
warming of the Antarctic land and
ocean environment, and the presently observed thinning
of the ice shelf all point toward a rising risk
of destabilization or disintegration.