CO2 absorbs some wavelengths of the infrared light now being radiated from Earth's surface.
CO2 absorbs some wavelengths of infrared that water does not, so it independently adds heat to the atmosphere.
Not exact matches
But the combination of modern computers and novel treatments of the problem mean that we can now use quantum theory to calculate how strongly
CO2 absorbs light at each
wavelength.»
For instance,
CO2that contains carbon - 14 — so - called heavy
CO2 —
absorbs a slightly different
wavelength than regular
CO2.
You then tune a laser to the exact
wavelength that only heavy
CO2 absorbs and shoot a burst of it into the cavity.
When these gases collide with
CO2, they
absorb light at key
wavelengths, so the planet retains enough heat for water to flow (arxiv.org/abs/1610.09697).
By looking at the
wavelengths that
CO2 absorbs the energy and seeing how much energy currently gets through can we not determine the «maximum» effect
CO2 can ever have?
So to maintain energy balance the stratosphere must be losing energy via long
wavelength radiation which means long
wavelength emitters like
CO2 must be radiating more than they are
absorbing.
CO2, in contrast, strongly
absorbs wavelengths > 13 times longer than O2 does, as well as other bands around 2 - 3 and 4 - 5 microns, while water vapor
absorbs strongly from around 5 - 8 microns.
For those
wavelengths in which the air
absorbs effectively (such as the 15 micron
CO2 band), surface radiation is effectively replaced by colder emission aloft, and is manifest as a bite in the spectrum of Earth's emission (see this image).
If there is a greater density of
CO2 molecules, then the probability of a particular photon, at one of these
wavelengths that
CO2 absorbs, coming across a
CO2 molecule, is clearly increased.
(1)
CO2 in the troposphere, by repeatedly
absorbing and re-emitting IR, reduces upwelling IR to the stratosphere (over the
wavelengths where stratospheric
CO2 would
absorb).
Note that black walls would
absorb over a broad spectrum of
wavelengths, whereas
CO2 absorbs in the IR.
The first point I'm trying to make is that, in my opinion, if what we are talking about is the
wavelength (s)
absorbed by
CO2, then where the partial pressure (or optical density) of C02 drops to near - 0 is a lot more interesting than where the sum of all gas partial pressures, where the majority of other gases do not
absorb at the
wavelength of
CO2, drops to near - 0, which is the more traditional meaning for TOA.
Warming must occur below the tropopause to increase the net LW flux out of the tropopause to balance the tropopause - level forcing; there is some feedback at that point as the stratosphere is «forced» by the fraction of that increase which it
absorbs, and a fraction of that is transfered back to the tropopause level — for an optically thick stratosphere that could be significant, but I think it may be minor for the Earth as it is (while
CO2 optical thickness of the stratosphere alone is large near the center of the band, most of the
wavelengths in which the stratosphere is not transparent have a more moderate optical thickness on the order of 1 (mainly from stratospheric water vapor; stratospheric ozone makes a contribution over a narrow
wavelength band, reaching somewhat larger optical thickness than stratospheric water vapor)(in the limit of an optically thin stratosphere at most
wavelengths where the stratosphere is not transparent, changes in the net flux out of the stratosphere caused by stratospheric warming or cooling will tend to be evenly split between upward at TOA and downward at the tropopause; with greater optically thickness over a larger fraction of optically - significant
wavelengths, the distribution of warming or cooling within the stratosphere will affect how such a change is distributed, and it would even be possible for stratospheric adjustment to have opposite effects on the downward flux at the tropopause and the upward flux at TOA).
A second alternative acknowledges an unchanging OLR, but posits that less is now entering the stratosphere in
wavelengths absorbable by
CO2 because a heated surface is now radiating more IR to space in
wavelengths where
CO2 does not
absorb («window regions»).
Wavelength happens to be the right length to be
absorbed by the
CO2 molecule — it's
absorbed, makes the molecule wiggle as it
absorbs energy, then it re-radiates it in a random direction.
What they found was a drop in Escaping Infra Red radiation at the PRECISE
wavelength bands that greenhouse gases such as
CO2 with H2O, CFC's, Ozone, Nitrous Oxides, & methane (CH4)
absorb energy.
CO2 is
absorbing other
wavelength than water vapor, so the effects do add up I imagine.
Indeed, some
wavelengths of IR can be
absorbed by both water vapor or clouds, or water vapor and
CO2.
As we both know,
CO2 only
absorbs and emits at certain
wavelengths.
Angstrom objected to Arrhenius's quantitative account of the greenhouse effect on the ground that when
CO2 reached saturation, understood as blocking 100 % of the
CO2 -
absorbing wavelengths from the surface to space, further
CO2 could not increase the temperature, i.e. the Planck feedback would drop to zero.
Carbon dioxide (
CO2) is a greenhouse gas, simply meaning that it
absorbs and redirects infrared radiation but not shorter -
wavelength radiation.
I would have thought everyone knows that
CO2 only
absorbs radiation in a very small
wavelength range (around 14.8 micron) while H2O (gas or water vapor)
absorbs over a much larger range.
And the whole greenhouse theory is based on longwave IR, and it's the weakest of this energy and huge bandwidth of
wavelength with a small section which
absorbed by
CO2, which makes me doubt that
CO2 can have much affect upon global temperature.
Another way is from certain
wavelengths of the light that are reflected back and get
absorbed by greenhouse gases and warm the atmosphere (mostly water vapor, methane and tiny amounts of
CO2).
The gases in the bottles are being heated by conduction but
CO2 is also
absorbing significant IR in the 2.7 micron band directly from the radiant emissions from the lamp as glass transmits a significant proportion of the radiation at this
wavelength and significant IR from the heated glass in the ~ 15 micron bandwidth.
Much of this IR is at
wavelengths at which other atmospheric constituents do not interact, so if
CO2 is exposed to a warmer surface like the earth, it will
absorb radiation that would otherwise pass through into the cold of space AND likewise if
CO2 is exposed to the cool of outer space it will emit vast quantities of IR at
wavelengths which other gases can not emit.
What they found was a drop in outgoing radiation at the
wavelength bands that greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide (
CO2) and methane (CH4)
absorb energy.
A consequence of the model you have proposed would seem to be that the «back radiation» due to
CO2 interception of surface emitted (from solid or liquid continuum thermal radiation can consist only of the specific
wavelengths that the
CO2 absorbed in the first place; since you say no net energy is exchanged between the
CO2 and the Atmosphere.
The longer
wavelength (infrared) radiation created there is reflected upwards, and then is
absorbed by clouds and the greenhouse gases (GHGs include carbon dioxide (
CO2), methane (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O), etc.).
«when
CO2 i the air
absorbs the morning sunlight» — my understanding is that
CO2 only
absorbs the longer
wavelength reflected radiation, not the shorter
wavelength sunlight.
CO2 (which doesn't contribute much to the heating because it doesn't
absorb in UV
wavelengths) facilitates cooling by virtue of its ability to emit infrared radiation to space in proportion to local temperature.
My understanding is that
CO2 absorbs in specific
wavelengths and that water competes for some of this bandwidth.
But what you're missing, is that half of the extra
absorbed power is re-radiated back into space at
wavelengths that are not subject to
CO2 absorption (or even H2O absorption for that matter).
Furthermore, water vapor
absorbs at all the same
wavelengths as
CO2 except one.
CO2 being a linear molecule does not
absorb IR except when it is bent or stretched and only at about 7 different
wavelengths.
There might be 3 or 4 molecules of
CO2 per 10,000 molecules of air, but at 298K and 50 % RH, there would be 96 molecules of water vapor which
absorbs IR at 19 different
wavelengths in the IR.
CO2 absorbs upwelling infrared radiation (IR) mainly (but not only) in the 15 micron
wavelength range.
Like WV and
CO2, there is some overlap in which gases
absorb what
wavelength of radiation.
Yes at the line center the absorption of
CO2 is «saturated: — surface emission totally replaced by emission from the top of the ghg column but as the conc of the ghg increases, the line width increases so the ghg starts to
absorb over a greater and greater range of
wavelengths — this is the cause of the logarithmic relationship between concentration and absorption.
But the material of the condom may be blocking the certain particular
wavelengths of IR radiation that is
absorbed by
CO2.
CO2 is not like a steel shell because it only
absorbs and radiates over a small range of
wavelengths rather than at all
wavelengths as a steel shell would.
-- the atmospheric concentration of
CO2 and other GHG's; — the reflective & absorptive characteristics, as a function of
wavelength, for the GHG's; — the specific heat and mass of the earth's intermediate - term heat - storage media — the oceans (primarily) and the atmosphere; — the quantity of heat
absorbed by phase - changes = ice - melt; and by chemical / biological processes.
A useful answer would be that the atmosphere is optically thick at the greenhouse effect relevant frequencies /
wavelengths where
CO2 absorbs, between about 620 and 840 cm - 1.
how does 6μ to 20μ
wavelength of radiative heat energy being
absorbed, scattered, diffused what ever mechanism you can invent, by 400 ppm volumetric density of
CO2 with molecule size of 3.2 Angstrom, which means your purple ball size is ~ 1/3000 of your sun light yellow ball at atomspheric temperature of 15 C?
Radiation at these
wavelengths can not be radiated directly into space from the surface because these photons are easily
absorbed by water and
CO2 molecules.
that represents the
wavelengths that are
absorbed by
CO2.
Secondly, it is fairly well accepted science that
CO2 can
absorb LWIR radiation in the 13.5 to 16.5 micron
wavelength range, which will put the
CO2 molecule in a higher energy state.
On the other hand,
CO2 is incapable of
absorbing more than miniscule quantities of solar radiation because the
wavelengths don't match its profile of allowable quantum transitions.