It is a proven fact that plants, including trees and all our food crops, are capable of growing much faster at higher levels of
CO2 than present in the atmosphere today.
For a start hydrogen from natural gas, without considering the host of other technologies coming along very nicely with far lower CO2, is way lower in
CO2 than the present use of petrol, so you are talking about a very large decrease even pending lower CO2 technologies.
My comment about the unlikeliness of 0.8 deg is about the overall warming, which by 2100 is much more likely to be dominated by
CO2 than the present warming.
Not exact matches
Battisti and Naylor, however, assumed greenhouse gas emissions lower
than the
present output and the fact that more carbon dioxide (
CO2), the most common greenhouse gas, will boost plant growth may not help.
So we've already increased
CO2 by more
than from the last glacial maximum to the
present interglacial.
Given the
present energy mix that means Mantovani adds more
than 3,000 metric tons of
CO2 to the atmosphere each year.
At
present, atmospheric
CO2 has reached more
than 387 parts per million (ppm), well above the preindustrial figure of 280 ppm.
This dynamic time for East Antarctic glaciers occurred when atmospheric temperatures and atmospheric
CO2 levels were similar to or higher
than present day.
His «we do not know of a time with permanent ice at the poles and
CO2 above 1000pmmv» (except, of course, prior to the big thaw in snowball Earth), and the
present rate of increase of atmospheric
CO2 being c. 10x greater
than previous mass extinctions as far as we know (albeit the total mass being less) are deeply worrying.
Ice ages have occurred in a hundred thousand year cycle for the last 700 thousand years, and there have been previous periods that appear to have been warmer
than the
present despite
CO2 levels being lower
than they are now.
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If it takes 100 plus years to double the concentration of
CO2, and if the equilibrium response is a 2C increase (Pierrehumbert, «Principles of Planetary Climate», p 623), and if the increased
CO2 produces increased vegetation and crop growth, then the
present rate of development of non-fossil fuel power and fuel generation is more appropriate
than an Apollo type project or attempt to get rid of all fossil fuel use by 2050 starting now as fast as can be done.
A few things are unequivocal, perhaps (doubling from the
present concentration of
CO2 will take 140 years [give or take]; the idea that the changes in climate since 1880 have been in the aggregate beneficial; it takes more energy to vaporize a kg of water
than to raise its temperature by 1K; ignoring the energy cost of water and latent heat transport [in the hydrologic cycle] leads to equilibrium calculations overestimating the climate sensitivity), but most are propositions that I think need more research, but can't be refuted on
present evidence.
The reason why
CO2 trumps natural variability IN THE LONG RUN is not becuase it is, at
present, much larger
than energy fluctuations due to natural variability, but because it's sign is consistent.
And this paper is suggesting that the
present day
CO2 feedback may be stronger
than what it would have been if we'd done this experiment at many times in the past.
Am I correct in calculating that the
present rate of growth in the anthropenic forcing from
CO2 from fossil fuel consumption is currently somewaht greater
than a milliwatt / year, or about 4 microwatts per day?
Analysis by Collins of climate model simulations indicated that increased
CO2 may result in ENSO events becoming larger in amplitude and more frequent
than under
present conditions.
There's the electric SUV approach, which uses as much or more energy
than at
present, but gets it from less
CO2 - intensive sources such as the electric grid.
So, while at
present more
CO2 is absorbed
than is released, this can not be taken for granted, especially as the oceans warm.
Arctic temperatures were ∼ 19 °C warmer during the Pliocene
than at
present, while atmospheric
CO2 concentrations were ∼ 390 ppmv.
«This perspective article focuses on intervals in time in the fossil record when atmospheric
CO2 concentrations increased up to 1200 ppmv, temperatures in mid - to high - latitudes increased by greater
than 4 °C within 60 years, and sea levels rose by up to 3 m higher
than present.
Could anything be more out of date, backward - looking, or antiquated in spirit
than the Carlin report's repackaging of yesterday's denialist illusions and pseudoscientific nonsense about climate — fantasies that have been shot down time and again, that don't have a melting Greenland glacier's chance in a warming climate when exposed to the light of reason, yet which have been
presented to the world as if they were a brilliant refutation of the
CO2 - global warming link by the sharpest analytical minds in the field of climatological research?
In the last 600 million years, since the start of the Cambrian Period, only the Carboniferous Period and our
present Quaternary P -LCB- eriod have seen
CO2 levels less
than 400 ppm.
By later in the Carboniferous,
CO2 levels had declined to about 350 ppm, a little less
than present CO2 concentrations.
Anthropogenic emissions of
CO2 are increasing, and accelerating, and current proposals for reducing them
present no plausible scenario in which emissions will actually peak and decline in anywhere near the time frame that is required to avoid what are generally considered «dangerous» levels of
CO2 (although points 1 - 3 above suggest that the current levels are more dangerous
than has been generally believed).
In Barton's criticism of Gore he also points out that
CO2 has sometimes been much higher
than it is at
present.
In your paper (co-authored with Wenju Cai)
presented to the Pan Evaporation Workshop at the Academy of Science in Canberra in late 2004, which I attended, you used the SRES A2 scenario projections to reach the conclusion that «By 2100, the equivalent
CO2 reaches a level that is more
than three times the level of 1870 (concentration ppm).»
If the med - evil warming period was warmer
than the
present, without the presence of elevated anthropogenic
CO2 in the atmosphere, then their «
CO2 as poison» theory dies on the vine.
Energy transfer in the lower troposphere is a typical case, where changes in convective processes (including transport of moisture) restore the balance very efficiently leading to little direct influence from changes in
CO2 concentration as long as the concentration is not much lower
than the
present one.
A composite of real studies appearing in Nature and Proceedings of the National Academies of Sciences, the study
presented evidence that
CO2 dissipates from the atmosphere much more sluggishly
than scientists had previously anticipated.
In order to determine the rate of historical responsiveness to atmospheric levels of
CO2, it is essential to use high - resolution SI data that (i) have not been significantly affected by influences of environmental conditions other
than CO2values, and (ii) that can be calibrated against the (1958 —
present) Mauna Loa record of increases of atmospheric
CO2 levels.
Ice ages have occurred in a hundred thousand year cycle for the last 700 thousand years, and there have been previous periods that appear to have been warmer
than the
present despite
CO2 levels being lower
than they are now.
Even during the years 1900 to
present, the sun's activity correlates with temperatures better
than CO2 correlates with temperatures (see chart below).
The end of the
present decade (2000 — 2010) will be cooler
than the beginning, even as
CO2 concentration continues to increase steadily.
It achieves this objective primarily through the weekly online publication of
CO2 Science, and which over the years has
presented more
than 5,000 synopses of peer - reviewed scientific journal articles, original research, and other educational materials germane to the debate over carbon dioxide and global change.
To project future emissions from human activities, we used the SRES higher (A1FI) and lower (B1) emissions scenarios that capture to some extent the uncertainty in future climate due to human decisions [22], with
CO2 emissions ranging from slightly less
than present - day levels up to four times
present - day levels by 2100.
Present CO2 emissions per person in China are now equal to those of Italy and higher
than France, although the sectoral shares of households, transport, power generation, manufacturing industry and the service sector are quite different.
Quantitatively, Vasskog et al. estimate that during this time (the prior interglacial) the GrIS was «probably between ~ 7 and 60 % smaller
than at
present,» and that that melting contributed to a rise in global sea level of «between 0.5 and 4.2 m.» Thus, in comparing the
present interglacial to the past interglacial, atmospheric
CO2 concentrations are currently 30 % higher, global temperatures are 1.5 - 2 °C cooler, GrIS volume is from 7 - 67 % larger, and global sea level is at least 0.5 - 4.2 m lower, none of which observations signal catastrophe for the
present.
The idea is problematic however, since even for Neoproterozoic insolation, you kick over into a snowball at about 3x
present CO2, and the situation is even worse for early Earth insolation, which is some 20 - 25 % lower
than today.
Radon is radioactive, and if it were
present at 400 ppm, collisions of neutrons with neighboring air molecules would cause more warming
than an equivalent concentration of
CO2 by absorbing relatively weak infrared waves / photons.
The authors also published their own response with Carbon Brief, pointing out that they «
present no evidence in our paper to suggest that future
CO2 - induced warming under any emissions scenario will be lower
than the projections given in AR5 [the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's fifth assessment report]».
2 - that mitigation of
CO2 will keep us from experiencing a climate more dangerous
than the
present in the future.
We have a solid 10,000 years of recent climate change to consider, and it shows several periods of greater warming
than present, none explained by increased atmospheric
CO2, or more obviously, by human activity.
Claims now proven false include; • an increase in
CO2 precedes a temperature increase; • current atmospheric levels of
CO2 are the highest on record; • and pre-industrial levels of
CO2 were approximately 100 parts ppm lower
than the
present 385 ppm.
Research
presented here and at other credible locations has shown
CO2's effect to be logarithmic with possible offsetting by negative feedbacks rather
than amplified greatly by positive feedback mechanisms.
Now, with all the fuss about modern
CO2 forcing, an MWP warmer
than the
present ought to make us think.
There are at least 10 threats to civilization that are more of a «clear and
present» danger
than CO2, including:
Based on proxy records from ice, terrestrial and marine archives, the LIG is characterized by an atmospheric
CO2 concentration of about 290 ppm, i.e., similar to the pre-industrial (PI) value13, mean air temperatures in Northeast Siberia that were about 9 °C higher
than today14, air temperatures above the Greenland NEEM ice core site of about 8 ± 4 °C above the mean of the past millennium15, North Atlantic sea - surface temperatures of about 2 °C higher
than the modern (PI) temperatures12, 16, and a global sea level 5 — 9 m above the
present sea level17.
The oceans are buffered by sediments and volcanic rocks on the sea floor and even in past times when atmospheric temperature and
CO2 were far higher
than at
present, there were no acid oceans.
For example, if the
CO2 - ice threshold for
present - day Earth is 500 ppm, the equivalent threshold during the Late Ordovician (450 million years ago)-- when the solar constant was about 4 % less
than current levels — would be 3000 ppm.