Not exact matches
You must also not believe the Bible when it tells us that Jesus Christ promises to guide and guard His
Church until the end of time [so that evil will not prevail] and that the Bible says that Jesus Christ will bring His
Apostles [which would include their successors] into remembrance of all that He taught them and He would bring them into the fullness of Truth
as we can bear it.
This testimony about Jesus
as only a son of David (2 Samuel 7:12 - 14 NIV) who was punished by God with the floggings of men for claiming to be god thus becoming the «bright morning star» (Isa.14: 9 - 20) was revealed through the Bible by Maestro Evangelista in http://www.thename.ph which proves he is the «angel» or messenger sent by Jesus to deliver his testimony or HIS ADMISSION that he is not a son of God and
as the «bright morning star «to all
churches (or believers of Jesus) thus nullifying the «antichrist» lie made by the
apostle John.
Even though history clearly speaks to Paul dying at the hands of Nero, all the
apostles except John being murdered, and early
church fathers such
as Polycarp being killed by Rome?
The
Church of Jesus Christ today has a prophet like Moses, 12
apostles who represent the 12 tribes, and 70 men who also serve the people, just
as in the Old and New Testament.
What is less clear to me is why complementarians like Keller insist that that 1 Timothy 2:12 is a part of biblical womanhood, but Acts 2 is not; why the presence of twelve male disciples implies restrictions on female leadership, but the presence of the
apostle Junia is inconsequential; why the Greco - Roman household codes represent God's ideal familial structure for husbands and wives, but not for slaves and masters; why the
apostle Paul's instructions to Timothy about Ephesian women teaching in the
church are universally applicable, but his instructions to Corinthian women regarding head coverings are culturally conditioned (even though Paul uses the same line of argumentation — appealing the creation narrative — to support both); why the poetry of Proverbs 31 is often applied prescriptively and other poetry is not; why Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob represent the supremecy of male leadership while Deborah and Huldah and Miriam are mere exceptions to the rule; why «wives submit to your husbands» carries more weight than «submit one to another»; why the laws of the Old Testament are treated
as irrelevant in one moment, but important enough to display in public courthouses and schools the next; why a feminist reading of the text represents a capitulation to culture but a reading that turns an ancient Near Eastern text into an apologetic for the post-Industrial Revolution nuclear family is not; why the curse of Genesis 3 has the final word on gender relationships rather than the new creation that began at the resurrection.
Even
as Jesus foretold Peter's actual betrayal he confirmed his choice of Peter
as the only one who could confirm his brothers (his fellow
apostles) in the faith whenever they became confused about the truth and how to govern the
Church - the phrase Jesus used was that they would be «sifted like wheat» (Luke 22:32).
He begins with Ephesians 5, where the
apostle Paul describes marriage
as a «profound mystery» pointing to the ultimate union between Christ and the
Church.
At one point you define heresy
as departure from the
apostles» teaching and at another you define it
as departure from historic
church teaching.
As successors of the
Apostles the bishops also govern and guide the
Church.
This discrepancy was revealed most dramatically when Martin Luther was considered a heretic by the institutional
church of his day... but only because he clung to what he saw the institutional
church as rejecting: that is, the
apostles» teaching.
Kirk maintains they are necessarily male (and Jewish) because they are «a proleptic [anticipatory] symbol of the coming kingdom», a divine reconstruction of the twelve tribes of Israel, founded on the twelve sons of Jacob; although he adds this does not preclude «the possibility that Jesus has other ends in mind... a
church with Peter at its head and the twelve
apostles as the foundation stones of its order and authority» (p. 43).
«The second person of the Trinity is revealed
as the eternal Son not daughter; the Father and the Son create man and woman in His image and give them the name man, the name of the male... God appoints all the priests in the Old Testament to be men; the Son of God came into the world to be a man; He chose 12 men to be His
apostles; the
apostles appointed that the overseers of the
Church be men; and when it came to marriage they taught that the husband should be the head.»
Molly Worthen's
Apostles of Reason is an important contribution to the ongoing debate within evangelicalism about how to get along
as a family of
churches.
... The Jews (just like the
church now) got flippant concerning divorce... I feel Jesus didn't have to mention homosexuality because the Law was clear to any Jew at that time... Paul had to mention it because he was an
apostle to the Gentiles who I think were more prone to homosexuality behavior... I'm though not
as learned
as you... just my thought after 15 years of thinking about this issue... The
church has a sacred duty to all... even gays... we need a unified loving answer to give them... but it must be the truth... because only the truth can set us free...
Jerome speaks of Origen
as the greatest teacher of the
church after the
apostles.
I am reading your newest posts to your oldest.I have never been to bible school but I consider myself in the journey of education concerning the bible.more than any opinions that you have what concerns me most is how «brothers and sisters» through their comments responds to someone who thinks differently from what is perceived
as absolutes (not sure if that's the right term) in scripture.I wonder did the
apostle believe half the things that are seen
as church doctirine today?how did the disciples who did not have the new testament or the ability to read follow Jesus?I appreciate your questioning.In my experience we are too quick to try and fix someone or use the scriptures
as a control mechanism and to slow to practise empathy and love..
(1 Thessalonians 5:21) John recorded Jesus» praise to the
Church in Ephesus, «You have even put to the test those who refer to themselves
as apostles (but are not), and have discovered that they are false.»
As I looked out over the 180 people taking New Testament interpretation, I saw folk who had never been to
church in their lives, and for whom the YDS chapel was their first parish; who certainly did not know the Nicene Creed and probably not the
Apostles» Creed.
«The defamation of religion, its symbols and teachings is incompatible with Christian values, the teaching of Jesus Christ and the
apostles as is demonstrated in the Bible,» the statement continued, «so those who participate in such a production, display or promotion of such a films should be held fully accountable for operating outside of Christian principles and
church laws.»
Furthermore,
as Pentecostals looked to the Acts of the
Apostles in an effort to follow the apostolic patterns of the early
church, they noted that converts were baptized in water in «Jesus» name.»
The Nicene Creed is indeed the whole
Church's creed,
as Dan Biles writes, but then so is the
Apostles» Creed.
The power to bind and loose, conferred on all the
apostles jointly and to Peter in particular (Matthew 16:19) is seen in the Catechism of the Catholic
Church as authority to absolve sins, to pronounce judgments on doctrine and to make decisions on
Church discipline.
In the Pauline
churches official leaders such
as apostles, prophets, and teachers were present, but in the act of gathered worship their role
as leaders was muted by the Spirit's urging and prompting of contributions by every group member.
Scripture repeatedly describes baptism
as occurring in conjunction with repentance, and I see absolutely no evidence that Jesus, the
apostles, or members of the early
church engaged in infant baptism.
(14) There are echoes here of the
apostle Paul's recognition, reflected in several of his letters, of the importance of general social trust and respect of
church leaders and members
as a necessary framework for communication of the gospel.
Apostles and prophets are the foundation of the
church -
as - God - wants - it (Ephesians 2:20; 3:5 - 6; 4:11).
As we don't add to the
Apostles» Creed and other historic creeds of the
church — though we are in the habit of trying to create new ones — so in the time of Jesus.
What is happening here, for the first time in two thousand years, for the first time since the
apostle Paul pondered the continuing «mystery» of Living Judaism, for the first time since the
Church condemned Marcion
as a heretic in the second century, for the first time since so many things in our tortuously entangled relationship, is that believing Jews and Christians are encountering one another on a footing of civil equality in a shared exploration of the way through history of the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and Jesus.
Apostles are given by God
as a gift to the
church and the world (Ephesians 4:11), and are needed most desperately.
To interpret the statement
as a straightforward affirmation of Reformed commitments,
as de Chirico does, smacks of the way Pentecostal and holiness
churches were initially invited to join the National Association of Evangelicals for their numbers, not their theology, a history Molly Worthen has chronicled in her
Apostles of Reason.
Since the Catholic
Church in 451 A.D. had so grossly departed from the Biblical faith, why do you respect, receive and follow the Chalcedonian Creed,
as if it were written by the
Apostles and included in the New Testament?
Lumen Gentium, the Constitution on the
Church, reads: «This is the one
Church of Christ which in the Creed is professed
as one, holy, catholic, and apostolic, which our Savior, after his Resurrection, commissioned Peter to shepherd, and him and the other
apostles to extend and direct with authority, which he erected for all ages
as «the pillar and mainstay of the truth.»
Clearly, the NT
as written by the
apostles and writers under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit is the authoritative source for the
church.
When I think of the original doctrine of the
apostles, and considering viewpoints such
as the above of «
church father» Origen, I can not help but regard the term «
church fathers»
as a very unfortunate man - made creation indeed.
The main biblical evidence is (1) the stories of the creation (Gen.I: 26 - 27 with 5:1 - 2; 2:18 - 25) and the fall (3:16 - 20); (2) Jesus» respect for women, whom he consistently treated
as men's equals (Luke 8:1 - 3; 10:38 - 42; 11:28 - 28; 13:10 - 17; 21:1 - 4; Mark 5:22 - 42; John 4:7 - 38; 8:3 - 11; 12:1 - 8; (3) references to women ministering in the apostolic
church by prophesying, leading in prayer, teaching, practicing Samaritanship both informally and
as widows and deacons, and laboring in the gospel with
Apostles (Acts 2:17 - 21; 9:36 - 42; 18:24 - 26; 21:9 Rom.
These are matters of divine revelation, however, and
as the
Church has long believed and taught, revelation ended with the death of the last
apostle.
There are even a number of «Protestant»
churches that are led by self - proclaimed
apostles who are thought to speak with just
as much authority
as the Catholic Pope.
In context, he refers to the «holy
apostles» (Eph 3:5),
as a way of speaking about the
apostles who were called and sent by Jesus Christ to lay the foundation for the
church by teaching and writing about Jesus Christ and the gospel (Eph 2:20).
This is usually done by the
church after an
apostle dies,
as we see happen with Matthias replacing Judas in Acts 1.
I think we agree on the fact that it is by faith that all are saved i have no problem with that and its in that that there is unity.You find within any christian modern
church law can be mixed with Grace that is not peculiar to any domination maybe it is more extreme in some.Where there are believers there are works of the flesh such
as pride and self reliance.I was thinking today the word says if we believe in our hearts and confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord then you shall be saved.Its not a hard doctrine to believe thats in its basic form.The seventh day have tacked on to that belief adherence to the sabbath that is sadly how denominations spring up.In the anglican
church we still recite the
apostles creed how many
church still do that today
as a basis for there faith in Jesus Christ.Your statement that some are saved is just
as true to those who go to modern christian
churchs who say they are christian but walk according to the flesh..
Another major factor is the claim of Orthodoxy to be the
Church founded by Christ, led by bishops who were appointed by other bishops who were appointed by others back to the
apostles themselves, a concept known
as Apostolic Succession.
No work that the
church does can be successful in the eyes of God if not built on the foundation
as laid by the
apostles and prophets.
In seeing him thus, they can place him on the same level
as all the prophets of Israel and the
apostles of the early Christian
church.
If taken by themselves, some of these verses indicate that the
apostle deviated from Jesus» example and had a bias against women, and even suggested that women should be treated
as second - class Christians — submissive to their husbands, attired and coifed demurely and silent in
church.
Were there no such thing
as inspiration, Christianity would be true, and all its essential doctrines would be credibly witnessed to us in the generally trustworthy reports of the teaching of our Lord and of His authoritative agents in founding the
Church, preserved in the writings of the
apostles and their first followers....
At Jerusalem itself the continued presence of the majority of the
apostles simplified the question of authority, because they seem to have acted on all important questions
as a body which sought and obtained the consent of the
Church as a whole (Acts 6: 12 - 16, 15:22) under the joint guidance of the Spirit (Acts 15:28, cf. 6:3).
Nowhere in the Acts of the
Apostles or in other accounts of the post-Pentecost
Church is there any hint of Peter's demanding recognition
as the rock on whom Jesus founded his
Church.
It is important to point out that the belief was used in the early
church as a way of affirming Jesus» full humanity; «born of a virgin» in the
Apostles» Creed has the force of «really born of a woman,» in opposition to heretics who denied that Jesus was truly human.
Mirosal, you might want to take a tour down history lane... Ezra Taft Benson, a sitting member of the Mormon Quorum of
Apostles, served in the Eisenhower Admin
as Secretary of Agriculture... no problems way back then with either his service
as a Cabinet Secretary OR
as a leader in his
church.
The vocation of St. John
as the
apostle of the Divinity of Christ's one person has fed and powered the true development of the doctrine of the
Church at all times, not least in the first centuries in which the true doctrine of both the divinity and the humanity are hammered out in great Councils, and the concepts are refined in the fires of contrary heresy against either the full Divinity or the full Humanity of Christ.