Death of the old must precede birth of the new, and in that vein, we are witness to
the end of church as (predominantly) men have modified it.
Perhaps
the end of the church as we know it today is not a bad thing:) That being said, the church, His church, will have no end.
Not exact matches
But, he said, the
church must respond to the new political / social / spiritual environment, which did include the
end of the Cold War and other global shifts,
as the WCC discerns and defines its purpose.
You would think that would be the
end of the experience but no we watched
as Rev. Shuller was driven to the
church in a very lavish, very expensive Limo and during a commercial break... Best Part!
We're talking about love relationships not the titillation
of nerve
endings As to who can or can not hold a leadership position or who can or can not teach in a
church, I think it comes down to morals not legality.
Bernice had left the
church in profound humiliation when,
as a little girl, one
of the more prominent ladies in the congregation insulted her in the local general store, but near the
end of her life she had reconnected with the
church of her childhood.
You must also not believe the Bible when it tells us that Jesus Christ promises to guide and guard His
Church until the
end of time [so that evil will not prevail] and that the Bible says that Jesus Christ will bring His Apostles [which would include their successors] into remembrance
of all that He taught them and He would bring them into the fullness
of Truth
as we can bear it.
The point is that if more people are admitting that they are Atheist then it is cool but, does that herald the
end of the
church... no and
as we have been arguing a few threads up... the Faithful have continued to grow.
On its last day, a key figure in the hierarchy
of the Ukrainian Orthodox
Church under the Moscow Patriarchate, Metropolitan Paul
of Chernobyl and Vyshgorod, led a blessing service for Yanukovych and his clique at the Kyev - Pechersk Lavra, notoriously assuring him, «Today you carry a heavy cross, and the
Church will be with you to the
end, just
as Simon
of Cyrene helped carry the cross
of Christ to Calvary.»
«It should be troubling — to «progressive» Catholics
as well
as others — that political operatives like John Podesta, who has been associated with Clinton campaigns and administrations for decades, admits that his organization set up (with funding from the Koch Brothers... I mean, George Soros) groups with the purpose
of promoting a «revolution» — a «Catholic Spring» — «in which Catholics themselves demand the
end of a middle ages dictatorship and the beginning
of a little democracy and respect for gender equality in the Catholic
church.»
But wondering if that would work out they decided to push on
churches to spread and depute pastors to travel to those countries for preaching and converting masses to bring those countries in to division among them selves for easier penetration in the name
of saving Christian believers or generate hate and fights among them
as with the operation that Egypt recently had and accused Muslims for it just to bring Egypt in to division for in the
end to call for separation
of the country in to more than one
as one Islamic and one Christian just
as being planed for Sudan North and South!?
Meanwhile, the
Church in Philadelphia is undergoing a painful downsizing,
as newly installed Archbishop Charles Chaput announced in early January that 48 Catholic schools (both elementary and high schools) will be closed and / or consolidated at the
end of the present academic year.
As the leaves fall from the trees and the earth goes brown and bare, the church contemplates the end as well — the end of our lives in death and the end of the world with Christ's comin
As the leaves fall from the trees and the earth goes brown and bare, the
church contemplates the
end as well — the end of our lives in death and the end of the world with Christ's comin
as well — the
end of our lives in death and the
end of the world with Christ's coming.
Adrian Reynolds is part
of the leadership team
of The Proclamation Trust and serves
as associate minister at ELT Baptist
Church in Mile
End, London.
Now at almost 600 comments, the one thing I hope for outside
of the apologies that Julie (and others) so richly deserve is an
end to the evangelical / pomo / dispensational / Calvinist /
church - growth / emergent / author / leadership / Christian conference scene (pick one or more categories
as YMMV).
Kirk maintains they are necessarily male (and Jewish) because they are «a proleptic [anticipatory] symbol
of the coming kingdom», a divine reconstruction
of the twelve tribes
of Israel, founded on the twelve sons
of Jacob; although he adds this does not preclude «the possibility that Jesus has other
ends in mind... a
church with Peter at its head and the twelve apostles
as the foundation stones
of its order and authority» (p. 43).
The relevant loci are the creation story, the Sixth Commandment, Ephesians 5 with its meditation on marriage
as a sacramental sign
of the union
of Christ and his
Church, the
end of Revelation with its depiction
of the marriage
of the Lamb, and the whole narrative stream
of Holy Scripture that assumes the heterosexual monogamous norm, despite the fact
of royal and patriarchal polygamy.
Then, too, Christians are convinced that the
church can no longer play its traditional role in regard to the poor — the role
of assistance, partial response, individual aid, palliative measures — because,
as they see it, the problem is no longer that
of the poor individual but
of the system; and to ameliorate the situation
of some poor people is in fact to reinforce the system, and to
end injustice for one individual is to refrain from combating social injustice.
He failed to acknowledge that the entire purpose
of the
Church's principles on issues such
as the
end of life is to create a standard
of conduct clear enough to guide believers through their most trying challenges.
As the movie
ended, I realized that my main impression
of the Baptist
church culture it had portrayed was silence.
As Katherine Gunn said on another blog, if we try it, we may
end up with a
church full
of goats!
What the early Christian believers and writers, for example Mark, tried to do was apply to him the highest conceivable categories, human and divine; but in the
end these all proved inadequate,
as the later
church soon discovered; for Jesus means more, was more, and is more than any
of these categories could convey.
Creeds, the canon
of scripture (the books accepted
as the official Bible) and the institutional structure
of the
church emerged only toward the
end of the second century.
As we come to the
end of our weeklong series, «Into the Light: A Series on Abuse and the
Church,» I feel weary and heavy - laden, in need
of rest.
«Then at least,» I wrote at the time, «left to ourselves, we will be able, under the guidance
of a new Holy Father (who will, I hope and pray, see it
as his aim to complete the work
of the pontificate which has just come to such an unexpected
end), and with God's help, return in the light
of a new Eastertide to the business
of building up the
Church once more, free
of the attentions
of the roving media protagonists who so rarely care a jot about what, for a week or so, is currently attracting their fitful attention.»
If wives submit to their husbands
as the
Church submits to Christ, and if husbands love their wives
as Christ loved the
Church and gave himself up for her, and if both husbands and wives submit to one another
as commanded, we enter a never -
ending, life - giving circle
of mutual submission and love.»
Buttressed by such a phalanx
of support Leo XIII
ended his encyclical with a ringing exhortation, «We exhort you, Venerable Brethren, in all earnestness to restore the golden wisdom
of St. Thomas, and to spread it far and wide for the defence and beauty
of the Catholic faith, for the good
of society, and for the advantage
of all the sciences» [6] It was an exhortation that was welcomed and followed by many in the
Church so that it has been written «We are accustomed to consider Saint Thomas, Thomism, and Aristotelianism
as the predominant points
of orientation and the most favourable to the
Church.»
An appreciation
of the character
of a voluntary institution
as a vehicle
of the life
of the
church and a willingness to learn how the particular congregation and denomination are organized for nurture and mission so that they may accept responsibility for making these institutions work to these
ends.
Only the notion
of specifically Christian maturing and the special means appropriate to that
end are finally
of use to ministers
as prophetic guides to maturing in the Christian life, since it is part
of the confessing consciousness
of the
churches they lead that Christian faith and life are not the same
as in any other religion.
Thomas More, who is beheaded at the
end of Wolf Hall, famously opposed Henry's divorce, remarriage, and presumptive title
as Head
of the
Church in England.
For most
of the interval between 30 A.D., when Jesus» career
ended, and the date
of the beginning, so far
as we can know,
of Gospel writing, the tradition about Jesus existed only
as individual stories and sayings, circulating separately and orally among the scattered
churches.
I do hear your points that you think I have not seen the need for warning
of danger, that you believe I think
of it
as «unChristian» to talk about such things, and that you may even believe that my comments are akin to protecting evil deeds and harming the innocent, using the bible
as a proof texting weapon to that
end and contributing to a problem
of church becoming fake and shallow while claiming to be deep and pious.
«Jesus Christ, our Lord and God, when he was about to offer himself once on the altar
of the Cross to God the Father, making intercession by means
of his death, so that he might gain there an eternal redemption, since his priesthood was not to be extinguished by death, at the last Supper, «on the night that he was handed over», left to his beloved Spouse the
Church a visible sacrifice, such
as the nature
of man requires, by which the bloody sacrifice achieved once upon the Cross might be represented and its memory endure until the
end of the age, and its saving power be applied to the remission
of those sins which are daily committed by us.»
While we do have a «right» to model our regular gatherings we call «
church»
as we see fit within the bounds
of scripture, we must always remember that our «rights»
end where the gospel
of Christ begins.
As a result, even our pastor is starting to realize that what started out as «a class» to have a beginning and ending point, is now a body of believers who don't want to leave the gathering, but to continue growning in a much more comfortable, meaningful setting than they have been used to in the church - building - lecture - learned way of doing thing
As a result, even our pastor is starting to realize that what started out
as «a class» to have a beginning and ending point, is now a body of believers who don't want to leave the gathering, but to continue growning in a much more comfortable, meaningful setting than they have been used to in the church - building - lecture - learned way of doing thing
as «a class» to have a beginning and
ending point, is now a body
of believers who don't want to leave the gathering, but to continue growning in a much more comfortable, meaningful setting than they have been used to in the
church - building - lecture - learned way
of doing things.
If we would
end the hemorrhaging
of our old - line
churches that has been going on for several generations now, we must find a way to present discipleship
as a matter
of critical urgency for ourselves and for our world.
Those words I toss around so casually in my lectures — faith, doubt, fundamentalism, gender, sexuality,
church — are potent seeds that have nestled, split, and grown inside
of them, over many years, producing testimonies
as unique and
as urgent
as the ones they print in Christianity Today, but without the tidy
endings.
These doctrines were justification by faith in Christ; sanctification / Spirit - baptism
as a subsequent work
of grace; divine healing
as part
of Christ's atonement; and the literal premillennial return
of Christ at the
end of the
church era.
One - eighth
of the region's 481 million people belong to fundamentalist or evangelical
churches, and in some countries, such
as Guatemala, it is estimated that half the population will have switched into those
churches by the
end of the century.
Even my very conservative Roman Catholic brother gave me kudos when I said that if nothing else,
as a Baptist, my two cherished beliefs were in soul liberty and seperation
of church and state... so, if god was there and I was completly wrong not to believe in him, then at least he knew every step
of my journey, and in the
end my salvation, or lack
of it, was between me and god.
If the day
of the formally established
church ever
ends once and for all, then transnational religious movements may be increasingly valued and supported and perhaps can be more effective
as peace agents if they remain institutionally poor and weak.
At the
end of the baptism, the minister confirms you
as a full and responsible member not only
of the family
of God, which is personal, but also
of the
church, which is a community.»
The best among those Jews who decide to take that step are likely to
end up
as lonely and misunderstood missionaries, calling an unrepentant
church to renewal through a recovery
of its roots in the Hebrew Scriptures.
It is this kind
of «hate - speech» which led to the burning down
of 77
churches in Norway by militant atheists and which at the most extreme
end of the atheist movement leads to comments such
as this from the
Church Arson website «Any intelligent Antichrist methodology at that point will involve a consolidation
of strength, public education in the ways
of science and logic for our individual members, and actions taken against the remaining believers.
And yet in Acts 8:4 - 8,
as a result
of the persecution that is breaking out against the
church in Jerusalem and Judea, many Jewish believers fled to Samaria, and
ended up sharing the Gospel
of Jesus Christ with some
of the Samaritans.
«Let us not forget,» wrote Nietzsche, «in the
end what a
Church is, and especially in contrast to every «state»: a
Church is above all an authoritative organization which secures to the most spiritual men the highest rank, and believes in the power
of spirituality so far
as to forbid all grosser appliances
of authority.
These are matters
of divine revelation, however, and
as the
Church has long believed and taught, revelation
ended with the death
of the last apostle.
Church should be what
ends up happening
as a natural response to people wanting to follow us, be with us, and be like us
as we are following the way
of Christ (p. 30).
Perhaps the kinds
of studies that have been made
of the art
of administration,
of the relations
of policy and administration,
of organization and management in other: spheres will be carried forward into the sphere
of the
Church and may show how much the pastoral director
of our time,
as pastoral preacher, teacher, counselor and leader
of worship has also become the democratic pastoral administrator, that is to say, a man charged with the responsibility and given the authority to hold in balance, to invigorate and to maintain communication among a host
of activities and their responsible leaders, all directed toward a common
end.
Then, their retelling
of the story
of Jesus does not conclude with the
end of the Gospels, but carries on into the birth
of the
church as the Body
of Christ (chapter 15) before concluding with a study
of the return
of Jesus (chapter 16).