Interestingly, double predestination Calvinists themselves say that «single predestination» is doubletalk: if
God predestines one group, then by default He predestines the other.
If
God predestines only some people to heaven, then by default He predestined the rest to Gehenna.
In single predestination,
God predestines people to heaven, and people go to «Hell» due to their own sin.
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God predestines no one to go to hell; 620 for this, a willful turning away from God (a mortal sin) is necessary, and persistence in it until the end.
I definitely do not believe in double predestination, where
God predestines some people to go to heaven and predestines others to go to hell.
So if
God predestines one group, then by default He predestines the other.
I don't like the word sovereignty because it's the word that Calvinists use to explain why
God predestines people for hell.
Unconditional election means that
God predestines who will be saved and who will be damned.
Did
god predestine events?
God predestined his people to be conformed to the likeness of his Son.
This is something
God predestined for all Christians, and it is something that has not yet happened.
Nor is it probable that
God predestined Adam to such a good, before he predestined Christ.
Process theologians generally prefer the tradition of John Duns Scotus, which holds that
God predestined the person of Jesus as the crowning of creation and as the total manifestation of his love, regardless of whether man sinned.
Not exact matches
But, after a while,
God saved me from that (
predestined not to be Reformed, I guess).
It is said for those
God knew he
predestined to be children of
God yet we are not
predestined until by free will we choose to accept
Gods calling.
If
god is omniscient (all knowing), then everything is
predestined.
1 PETER 1:20 Despite
God's failed experiment in the Garden of Eden, the mass execution of Noah's flood and the final solution of Christ's sacrifice, Jesus was
predestined to be crucified all along.
God intimately chose His people, and this foreknowing is the foundation of His predestination, so if we were to translate the Biblical meaning of foreknowledge into Romans 8:29 it would read like this, «For those whom
God intimately set His affection upon beforehand, He also
predestined...» And this meaning is in sync with the rest of the Bible.
elektos - chosen out) Scripture paints this picture that
God has
predestined individuals to become His children and inherit eternal life.
If by
God is meant the Father Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, who redeems his children by the atonement and sacrifice of his Son Jesus Christ according to the
predestined plan of salvation revealed in the Bible and ascribed to by the Christian churches, then the answer obviously is No — Schweitzer does not believe in
God.
God's people are all whom he foreknew would believe in his Son, and whom he
predestined to someday be fully conformed to his righteous image.
Teaching from the pulpit, for example, that
God willed Adam and Eve to sin, that cancer is
predestined by
God, that prayer doesn't cause anything to change in the world, and that evangelism has no purpose since sheep are sheep and goats are goats?
Three yet one, fully man / fully
God, first shall be last, some element of «free» will / agency but also
predestined,
God in us yet we in
God,... the list could go on almost forever.
That is, every human being is
predestined to adoption as a child of
God through Jesus Christ.
There are those
predestined to be
God's children, accepted and loved by
God through Jesus Christ.
God only died for His,
predestined elect family from eternity past.
Yet, because
God's sovereign
predestining grace was central to their faith, their attention to Mary should have been central and not peripheral.
Her role is so fundamental to
God's saving plan of Creation and Incarnation that it was, as the Church teaches, «
predestined» from all eternity.
Are there those
predestined to be lost, useless to
God and themselves and everyone else?
Claiming that
god has
predestined all of us contradicts your statement that prayer changes things.
God has willed to show forth his goodness in men by mercifully sparing some of them, whom he
predestines, and by justly punishing others, whom he rejects.
Therefore Jesus Christ is
predestined from the beginning, and is part of the very plan of
God in the poising of matter at the creation of the universe, but so is the Holy Eucharist.
Before the world began Jesus is
predestined to unite heaven and earth as
God made man.
If
god tries to prevent the crucifixion of Jesus but can't, because it is
predestined... then
god is not all powerful.
Note that Jesus forgave man for crucifying him (which was all a scam because it the crucifixion was
predestined to happen and all «arranged» by
god anyway)
God does not preplan or
predestine or interfere with the course or end of my life.
If
god has
predestined an event.
~ That yes, because «love» according to my definition, is wrong,
God's character can, in fact,
predestine some to eternal hell.
This very contradiction shows clearly that man and the Kingdom of
God are not seen by Jesus in the light of a humanistic ideal of mankind, that man as such is not
predestined for the Kingdom.
Oh, the Calvinists could make perfect sense of it all with a wave of a hand and a swift, confident explanation about how Zarmina had been born in sin and likely
predestined to spend eternity in hell to the glory of an angry
God (they called her a «vessel of destruction»); about how I should just be thankful to be spared the same fate since it's what I deserve anyway; about how the Asian tsunami was just another one of
God's temper tantrums sent to remind us all of His rage at our sin; about how I need not worry because «there is not one maverick molecule in the universe» so every hurricane, every earthquake, every war, every execution, every transaction in the slave trade, every rape of a child is part of
God's sovereign plan, even
God's idea; about how my objections to this paradigm represented unrepentant pride and a capitulation to humanism that placed too much inherent value on my fellow human beings; about how my intuitive sense of love and morality and right and wrong is so corrupted by my sin nature I can not trust it.
The human nature of Christ was
predestined by
God to that highest glory of the beatific sharing in the inner life of the divine persons.
The discrepancy between the orthodox teaching of an eternity of punishment for those
predestined to damnation and the belief in
God's love is one of the too rarely examined problems in traditional Christian doctrine.
Indeed Jesus and Mary are
predestined by
God «in one and the same decree»; the phrase is used in both Ineffabilis Deus, defining the Immaculate Conception, and Munificentissimus Deus, defining the dogma of the Assumption.
Those
God has chosen He
predestined to be His.
Frankly, any understanding of divine sovereignty so unsubtle that it requires the theologian to assert (as Calvin did) that
God foreordained the fall of humanity so that his glory might be revealed in the
predestined damnation of the derelict is obviously problematic, and probably far more blasphemous than anything represented by the heresies that the ancient ecumenical councils confronted.
Jesus is not saying that
God has chosen who the sheep will be before they ever believe in Jesus, and when people hear the Gospel, only those who are
predestined to be
God's sheep will actually believe.
God knows what man did, does and will do because He is Omniscient but He DOES NOT
predestine / cause man to do what man does.
God never
predestined anyone to hell or heaven.
Theologically, it really doesn't matter whether an all - knowing
God would choose to
predestine most of his creation to eternal torture, or just know that by specifying such a tight requirement (Jesus — through word of mouth — or Hell), most of humanity would end up in Hell.
No,
God chooses, elects,
predestines, predetermines, decides, foreordains, commits Himself to make sure that every person who believes in Jesus for eternal life, will finally and ultimately be glorified into the image and likeness of Jesus Christ.