God rewarding people with paradise after they die does not justify that he simply sat back and watched them get tortured for their life, knowing full well he had the power to stop it.
The belief that
God rewarded people for faithfulness to their religious tradition was periodically challenged by prophets like Jeremiah who reminded the people of the law of God written on the heart.
Not exact matches
What a Christian buys is servitude in this life, at the cost of his liberty (and often property), to
people who claim to be authorized agents of
God, on hope of
reward that can not be verified until they are dead.
Religion is a big part of the problem there;
Gods are human constructs, made to keep
people down;
Reward after death
These ideas are echoed in the «prosperity gospel» — characterized by the belief that
God wants to bless His
people, that He wants to give us tangible
rewards such as riches and success and that we claim these
rewards by exercising our faith in obedience.
If only Christians go to Heaven (i.e. Sarah Palin would be there but not Balpreet) then I have no interest in Heaven or in a
god that would
reward / punish
people accordingly.
Craig that was exactly my understanding however if we believe that in that traditional sense a
person could lose there eternal life by there actions by not walking in the Lord which i do nt think is right as eternal life is a free gift from
God not based on works.Jeremys definition is that we are saved by faith in Jesus Christ to eternal life.I believe the term salvation has the meaning to be saved not necesarily to eternal life but saved from ourselves Christ gives us the power to be transformed into his likeness or to be Christ like.In the eternal picture our actions determine how we are
rewarded from
God although its not the motivation of the
reward but because we love the Lord.regards brent
It is contradicted by nearly every narrative of scripture, as
God urges, warns and sends prophets to call
people to turn from sin,
rewards those who obey and punishes those who refuse.
So if you are really sorry you killed million sof innocent
people you get te same
reward as someone who devoted their entire life to your
god?
Conclusion: for us to explain how a loving
God could cause us to suffer as a test, we have to assume that
God's knowledge is limited, we have to explain the apparently random selection of
people to be tested, and we have to postulate a complicated system of
rewards in the life to come in order for the different degrees of severity of the test to be appropriately
rewarded.
Moses prefered the fellowship of
God's
people against the pleasure of sin because he was looking at the eternal
reward (eternal dwelling in
God's City).
There are some
people that spend their lifetime doing good deeds so that
God will
reward them.
His parables frequently end with a «punch line» that presents a challenge to conventional expectation: the scorned Samaritan is the «good» one who proves neighbor to the victim on the Jericho Road; those who come to work late at the harvest are provided the same
reward as those who toiled all day; the wayward prodigal son is the one who is feasted; the prayer of a repentant sinner is more acceptable to
God than that of a righteous Pharisee.9 Shorter sayings make the same point: A camel could pass through a needle's eye more easily than a
person of great wealth can enter into
God's inbreaking realm (Mt 19:24).
By this
person's statement it makes me think of them choosing the oppisite of what Moses chose as we see in Hebrews 11:24 - 26 By faith Moses, when he was come to years, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh's daughter; 25Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the
people of
God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season; 26Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompence of the
reward.
I am very confused because I read an article by a preacher that said confessed sins will not be brought up (based on 1 John 1:9), but I have also read some articles that said that
God will openly
reward our works (including secret sins, based on Matthew 6:6), and that we will have to make up with
people we have hurt in this life (based on Romans 12:19 and 1 Thessalonians 4:6).
A more ancient view, still apparent at many points in the Old Testament, had been that righteousness was
rewarded by prosperity and long life in this world, and misfortune was a punishment for sin; but as Israel suffered more and more adversity, and the most faithful individuals and groups were the most oppressed and afflicted, it came to be felt that the humble, the meek, the devout, the poor were the righteous
people of
God, and the mighty and prosperous were the proud, wicked oppressors.
People who think that their «
god» will
reward them for being stupid deserve what they get when their «
god» doesn't show.
Craig i thought what you wrote was really good and agree with you.Enduring to the end is not that the
person hasnt already received eternal life by faith in Jesus Christ as once done that is a done deal.Enduring to the end is to encourage those who are persecuted to keep believing in Christ and do nt lose there faith and trust in
God and to be strong in the faith.In doing so they will get there
reward from the Lord because they trusted him more than the fear of death.They overcame them there persecuters with love for the Lord that is true courage.brentnz
Honestly as an atheist, I would like
people to stay religious, them having fear of
God is a great thing, it allows us to reap the
rewards they choose to ignore.
Though the pastor may often read the scripture in your congregation, the reading of scripture by lay
persons, that is, lay ministers, can reap great
rewards by developing leadership and encouraging full participation in the presence of
God.
Why would your
god create something as staggeringly amazing and powerful as the human brain, and then not only fail to
reward people who use it, but actively punish them for thinking and questioning.
To some
people, it seems more pure - hearted to obey
God because of love rather than to obey in order to receive
rewards in the Kingdom.
When asked what she intended, she said, «I want to burn up heaven and put out the fires of hell so that
persons will love
God for
God's goodness alone, with no fear of punishment or hope of
reward!»
On two occasions Christ used the phrase, ``... great is your
reward in heaven...,» when he was speaking of
people who obeyed
God (Matt.
Many religious
people believe they are the crowning achievement of an all power
God watching and judgeing their every moment and will
reward them after they die because they are so faithful / good / righteous etc. and only they can stop others from living sinful lives and spread proper morality... as the mouthpiece of said
God.
The Messiah is the one in whom the Jews centered their hopes for the coming of a new age of righteousness, in which particularly the injustices done to the
people of Israel would be punished and loyalty to the one true
God appropriately
rewarded.
Pie - in - the - sky as it sounds, I actually trust
God with my
reward — and seriously the love I have for our
people and the joy I take in seeing them grow in their relationship with
God is
reward enough for me (but it is hard to raise a family on unpaid job - satisfaction).
For some reason, I feel like calling myself «blessed» sends the message that I have somehow earned
God's special favor, that
God is
rewarding me for good behavior, and that the millions of
people who suffer from war, famine, poverty, and sickness because they weren't lucky (or blessed or fortunate) enough to be born in the wealthiest nation in the world are simply not as loved by
God.
The hand of
God on a
person is not pleasant when we don't want to change but in the obedience to change there is much joy and happiness not only because of the victory but because of the
rewards God gives to those that by faith follow Him.
Gil you have asked some very good questions why does bad things happen in the world i personally do nt know
God did nt explain to Job either why he had to suffer.What i do know is that
God desires that none of us should perish but that all would have eternal life in him through Jesus Christ.This world will one day pass away and the real world will be reborn so our focus as christians is on whats to come and being a witness in the here and now.Both good and bad happens to either the righteous or the sinner so what are we to make of that.What we do know is that
God will set all things right at the appointed time the wicked will be judged and the righteous will be
rewarded for there faith isnt that enough reason for us to believe.Free will is only a reality if we can choose between good and bad but our hearts are deceitfully wicked we naturally are inclined toward sin that is another reason whyt we need to be saved from ourselves so what are we to do.For me Christ died and rose again that is a fact witnessed by over 500
people that were alive at the time and was recorded by historians how many other religious leaders do you know that did that or did the miracles that Jesus did.As far as the bible is concerned much of the archelogical evidence has proven to be correct and many of prophetic words spoken many hundreds of years ago have come to pass including both the birth and the death of Jesus.Interested in what philosophy you are believing in if other than a faith in Jesus Christ so how does that philosophy give you the assurance that you are saved.Its really simple with christianity we just have to believe in Jesus Christ.brentnz
What He did say was that pursuit of money for money sake is wrong, however if
God has granted a
person gifts that are highly
rewarded in society (athletics, art, business, technical) there is nothing wrong what soever with that.
Since many
people can not accept that
God uses such peculiar, cruel means to achieve eventual
reward, let us consider a third option.
The third answer to the worst kind of suffering — seemingly senseless death — is: «
God saves some
people and lets others die because he favors and
rewards good
people.»
If there was a
god, it would be far more likely that
god would
reward people who actually use the brains
god gave them.
Tennessee, Article 9, Section 2: No
person who denies the being of
God, or a future state of
rewards and punishments, shall hold any office in the civil department of this state.
We are told as well that Spirits becomes in to the baby during creation in their mothers womb making that small heart beat, we are told they are choice-less in mankind behavior and in making or taking choices, we are told it leaves the
person upon death and returns back to
God the Creator immediately, we are told Spirits will not at all be judged «
rewarded or punished»?
that its totally against Bible teachings, real charity must be discrete, the Lord Jesus said those who reap the
rewards of its good deeds her on earth will receive nothing on the afterlife, so mister Osteen will play the good Samaritan on TV for money and fame, well for me is fine and I am happy for the
people who will receive the help... but I believe
God won't give him any additional credit for that on the Heaven..
It does not matter whether one is by
God's providential decree placed in the role of politician, engaged in public action for the common good, or in the role of a lover of wisdom (philosopher), engaged as a private
person in contemplation of eternal truths, or in some combination of the two: «A man can still lead a life of faith in any of these three lives and reach the eternal
rewards.
The message was that
people had a choice: they could continue to live in sin and be subject to the wrath of
God here and hereafter; or they could accept Christ, live in obedience to his commands, and be
rewarded with everlasting life.
This was its linking belief in
God with belief in posthumous careers for human
persons, in spite of the fact that, in the Book of Job for instance, although the divine existence is there taken for granted, there is not a whisper about Heaven or Hell, or about posthumous
rewards or punishments, or any other prolongations of a
person's experiencing after death.
Her
reward is seeing the change that can take place in
people, and hoping
God is pleased with her efforts.
It's
rewarding to watch Cullen and Maggie grow as
people and find faith in love,
God and each other, even when it feels like there's no hope left.
What I don't get is this: If Satan hates
God, wouldn't he enjoy
rewarding people in hell more than torturing them?
Being a part of that journey is an amazing gift and
reward, and I do all I can to help each
person discover what the grace of
God can do for them.
There is nothing more
rewarding than being a big deal in your own world and faithful to do your best with the most important
people God places in your life.