If prayer worked at all 9/11 would have never happened in the first place.
if prayer worked, we'd run our cars off it but it doesn't so we use what works... SCIENCE!!!!!!
If prayer worked, everyone would do it, because prayerful people would experience better health, less divorce, fewer children on drugs, greater success, lower death rates, less obesity... there would be no war or starvation or murdered babies.
@ just sayin:
if prayer worked there wouldn't be any atheists or people of other faiths because your prayers would have converted everyone to your faith.
Jay,
if prayer worked, then the prayerful would have less disease, live longer, have fewer divorces, miscarriages, children with birth defects, car accidents, kids on drugs, etc, etc, etc..
@prayer changes nothing:
if prayer works then you should be able to pray everyone to stop telling you praying doesn't work... if not your a troll
My main point is, when you test to see
if prayer works, there are ways to randomize it so bias is out of the equation (Usually double - blind tests work nicely) and then before you even begin you outline that a prayer that works means the person is healed instantly, or to make it slightly more «fair» and conform to laws of nature more, a person who has prayers heals at an abnormally high rate.
If prayer works, then praying for something bad to happen to someone will cause something bad to happen to them, if it is God's will.
I wonder
if prayer works?
Not exact matches
So
if you are saying
prayer works, you are also saying God is fallible or simply not all - knowing.
Lucas wants to start his own cleaning company, and during the announcements following a recent service at Trinity House of
Prayer, Lucas asks for the microphone, holds it up to his machine and slowly types out the message that
if anyone is looking for
work, he's hiring.
«to the ones do not believe in god when you in tragic situation who do you call on, 911 happen when a republican took whitehouse so you idiots a tragic have not happen yet so
prayer does
work and you with all the hate and jealousy you will reap what you sow» ok,
if this is a serious post then my answer is... in a tragic situation I certainly do nt turn to an imaginary being in the sky because that would be pointless.
Suddenly, they seem to believe on some level that
prayer works, even
if they hadn't previously lived their lives as
if it did.
I always laugh, because
if xtian's really believe that, then yes
prayer DOES NOT
work.
Also, can you explain this,
if prayer doesn't
work: I was following a friend to lunch.
If the life of a tailor
working from home was chosen to facilitate his
prayer life, it is also possible that his choice was a convenient one for an introvert with little self - confidence.
Jesus hear my
prayer to you and
if it be so your will i ask for a financial miracle, i need so many things for my home and i have debts because i have been old and unable to
work due to my age 55 years old, no company wants to hire old seaman.
I don't happen to agree that adding the word god makes something a
prayer because I do not believe that
prayer works and
if you think that puts me in line with a life in hell, so be it... I'd rather be anywhere that the likes of you and your kind aren't.
If anyone had said to me in 2005 that a decade later I would be saying
prayers every night and
working at a religious magazine during the day, I would have laughed.
What concerns me the most about the mindset of these people is that they think sports are important enough to warrant a
prayer —
if they're that certain
prayer works, shouldn't they be embarrassed about not using their religious fervour to pray for more important matters?
How do u know it was god who answered ur
prayer or
if it was just that the ODDS were highly in ur favor to make it to
work safely?
If prayer doesn't
work, people would have stopped praying centuries ago.
Rejecting the
prayer of petition, and the risks that accompany it («Because
if it didn't
work...»), she simply waits.
Matthew 21: 21 and Mark 11:23 Isn't talking about
prayer working absolutely, it's talking about having faith and whether or not you have any doubt in your heart in which
if there isn't any doubt you can move mountains.
If all you hear is a sermon a week, you will not gain victory over that sin in your life, you will not see power and effectiveness in your
prayers, you will not gain that insight and wisdom into the difficult decision you are facing, you will never be able to handle with love that troublesome person at
work, you will rarely hear from God.
If I can keep in an attitude of
prayer, enjoying God's presence as I
work, eat or play, why would I have to stop to perform a ritual
prayer?»
One, it has been proven
prayer is ineffective, and two,
if it does
work, then the 10,000,000 starving Somalian people need it a lot more than me.
well i guess there is no direct eviodence but there is evidence that
if people use
prayer as a coping skills it
works.
If that was the case, you have to denounce the validity of
prayer every time it doesn't
work.
If prayer is man's personal address to God, it is also surrender to that which is
working in us, nearer than we are to ourselves.
The lesson is this:
if persistence
works on the human level, how much more will it
work in your
prayer.
... even
if we are prevented from clarifying our minds by talking things over, we can still pray, and it is only in the spirit of
prayer that any such
work (intellectual discussion with the world and risk saying controversial things) can be begun and carried through.37
If it really has been «done to death,» then I can think of numerous topics that have been done many times more than this topic (at least where I'm at and interact): faith, hope, love, prayer, fellowship, giving, good works, christian unity, salvation, grace, faith healing, being culturally relevant, the gospel, the resurrection, religion vs. relationship, tithing, worship, reverence, christian music, legalism, old vs. new covenant, Paul's conversion, miracles, gifts of the spirit, sign gifts, tongues, nativity, the disciples, crucifixion, materialism, mysticism, new age, atheism, i could probably list about 50 more if I thought about i
If it really has been «done to death,» then I can think of numerous topics that have been done many times more than this topic (at least where I'm at and interact): faith, hope, love,
prayer, fellowship, giving, good
works, christian unity, salvation, grace, faith healing, being culturally relevant, the gospel, the resurrection, religion vs. relationship, tithing, worship, reverence, christian music, legalism, old vs. new covenant, Paul's conversion, miracles, gifts of the spirit, sign gifts, tongues, nativity, the disciples, crucifixion, materialism, mysticism, new age, atheism, i could probably list about 50 more
if I thought about i
if I thought about it.
I agree for - the - most - part, but you're perpetuating the myth that
prayers are «
work - orders on God's docket, that he'll get around - to
if we pay him well - enough.»
I've engaged in all that, sat 2 - 3 times a week as you say, and went to the conferences, went to the
prayer meetings, gave financially, engaged in all the
work they want (because
if you don't, you're in sin, or rebellion).
IF you think
prayer works, go to ANY hospital with a child cancer ward and talk to the parents of the children who are dying there.
The programs taught me about (1) admitting I was beat, (2) coming to believe in something greater than myself (eventually a higher power)(many evolutions and concepts of HP, all of these at one time or another: nature, the 12 steps, creator, Love, spiritual principles)(Step 3) applying my low self worth and gigantic Ego to these spiritual principles (4) write down my liabilities and assets (5) share them with another and my higher power (6 & 7) ask for the liabilites to be removed and be patient with the process (8) Make a list of all that were harmed by me (9) make amends to such folks except whn to do so would injure them or myself (10) take a daily inventory of my day, checking for snafus, mean temperment, arrogance etc (11) meditation and
prayer to communicate to my higher power and quiet reflection to listen for the Truth (12) after having a spiritual awakening as a result of
working these steps, help others
if they wish for help because now I am in the position to assist.
If by
prayer «
working» you mean that God grants every
prayer request, then you are right,
prayer does not «
work» at least not all the time.
My kids are forced to say «under god» every morning... you can't run for office without spouting god every five minutes... religious people assume you are a believer... at
work you can get in trouble
if you «admit» you laugh at religion... and even this weeks tragedy has been nothing but offering of pointless «
prayers», claims to «gods will» and other religious lunacy...
Jeremy I agree its not about what we can do but all about what Jesus has done for us it is all about his grace not following mans laws or trying to please the pastor or the church.Be respectful for those in authority and show them Gods love
work hard as for the Lord as you serve them and pray for them but do nt try and please them.We no longer follow the ways of the world we live to please the Lord and worship him not man because that is idolatory.Thats why religion does nt
work we can do nothing to add to Gods grace.Grace is also not a licence to sin as some christians believe and God is not fooled
if we do not repent and turn from our sin he does nt hear our
prayers if the intents of our heart are wrong.God listens to the humble and the repentent sinner or saint.The journey in following Christ is about how much do we want to follow Jesus to discover the abundant life and richs in Christ we must fully give him all our hearts and serve him wholehearted out of thankfulness for his grace and mercy towards us.brentnz
Well, while I was praying, I remember holding out my hands to God and telling him they should
work for him, my feet walk for him, my tongue speak for him, etc., etc.,
if he would only use me as his instrument and give me a satisfying experience — when suddenly the darkness of the night seemed lit up — I felt, realized, knew, that God heard and answered my
prayer.
I predict that theists of all sorts will continue to make excuses to try to explain why the world
works the same way it would
if there was no loving, all powerful, miracle
working God who answers
prayers.
If you want to pray, pray how ever you feel necessary or appropriate and if you don't believe prayer works then don't pray but don't complain because someone has a day of remembrance about something they feel would be of assistanc
If you want to pray, pray how ever you feel necessary or appropriate and
if you don't believe prayer works then don't pray but don't complain because someone has a day of remembrance about something they feel would be of assistanc
if you don't believe
prayer works then don't pray but don't complain because someone has a day of remembrance about something they feel would be of assistance.
If there is going to be deep cooperation and communion, there has to be greater theological consensus, and to reach a consensus, the churches and their leaders must be committed to the hard
work of common
prayer, worship, service, and study.
† †
If I can pass along a little hint, when you want to tattoo
PRAYER WORKS on your forehead like I tried to, don't do it using a nail gun as a needle.
prayer does
work, but atheism is much healthier than ANY of the major religions... atheist don't force people into believing the way they do... and condemn them to hell fire
if they don't... most
if not all Christian religions do... Buddhism is a much better way to view the earth and it's people...
Even those with voluminous
prayer lists can feel as
if they are
working alone, racing through the dark with their petitions like a midnight mail carrier
If, in practice, the individual and
work have replaced the Christian and
prayer, theoretically the essence of the human being must replace the divine.
Healing
prayer also threatens us because we fear losing faith and losing face
if it doesn't «
work.»
If the main reason our reps have been chosen because they believe and pray to the spaghetti monster in the sky, based on the mess hey have produced and keep making worse, there
prayers have been a useless waste of time which would have been much better spent to actually
work on the problem rather than praying about it.