If a trad pub can do that better than self - pubbing, then it's time to work a deal.
It's also important to realize that even
if you trad pub, you've still got the competition of all the talented indies.
Not exact matches
I'd say,
if I were curious / interested in
trad pub and I was a self -
pubbed author, I might consider offering up a purely commercial one - off, standalone.
Okay, I understand that
if you look at just the marketing alone, the
trad -
pubbed author comes out behind.
If you're a trad - pubbed author, and if you have an agent, the gross profit is still $ 200, but now it's paid to the publishe
If you're a
trad -
pubbed author, and
if you have an agent, the gross profit is still $ 200, but now it's paid to the publishe
if you have an agent, the gross profit is still $ 200, but now it's paid to the publisher.
For example,
if you are dead - set on going
trad -
pub, the chances of you making enough money in the beginning is fairly remote.
When authors stop signing contracts and then announce they are making as much,
if not more, by selling direct to their customers (via Amazon / iTunes / etc), will those remaining
trad pub authors still toe the line and defend their masters at all costs?
Here's my answer to the inevitable discussion of how
Trad Pub is «the one true path» and
if you aren't
Trad Pub'd, you aren't a real writer:
If you wrote and published just a little bit more and did some of these as self -
pubbed books at a lower price range to go along with your
trad pub deals, I'll bet you could make a lot more.
Second, what I was saying that
if Good Writer writes Good Book and sends it to either market —
trad or self
pub — in a proper, professional manner, they seem to have roughly equal success rates.
If they have good product, many first time indie novelists can and do make
trad pub advance numbers.
But when I think about the NA I'd have missed covering
if I only covered the
trad -
pubbed stuff, I'd have missed all but one of my five - star titles.
My latest idea: (1) query agents because I already wasted all of that time on those days I had writer's block researching agents & writing a synopsis, query letter, book proposal THEN (2)
if I don't get any takers at
trad -
pub within a reasonable period, I self -
pub because I already wasted all of that time on those days I had writer's block researching book bloggers & reviewers, building two websites, making or editing videos & writing tweets, Facebook posts, blogs.
And one of the biggest negative effects we've now created as indie authors is denigrating the value of ebooks — specifically indie ebooks, as you'll find the
trad pubs don't do much,
if any, free promo — in the eyes of the audience that buys them.
I don't know
if trad publishing is the brass ring or not, but I know that I was always too frightened to self -
pub before because I was given to understand it would ruin my chances at a «real» publishing contract.
There I read reviews, compare the wonderfully low price of ebook (or not
if it is inflated by
trad pub).
Joe's initiative is great, but
if we could inform our readers that the money they spend on taxes going to libraries is practically only devoted to
trad pub books and ebooks, and that this doesn't reflect EXACTLY, for instance the indie market share of the first retailer in the world, maybe things would advance a little bit in the right direction.
It would also be great
if Author Earnings could study this, and compare the money made by a
trad pub author in libraries vs an indie author's, and also the raw numbers of books
trad published in libraries vs indie published.
But that being said, please,
if any new writers * do * go through
trad -
pub (and this isn't for you, Diane, because I know you're a pro at all this and have been for longer than me), read the contract carefully and know * exactly * what you're signing on for.
If terms could be better for writers, then I think many of us would feel better about going with
trad pub / indie
pub.
If I were to be offered a
trad pub contract, I'd be forced to seriously consider it just for the chance to get a readership large enough to help me live modestly while writing the next book.
Not that writers are * paying *
trad publishers to be published, but in the sense that our time is worth money and (possibly) more income (certainly higher royalty rates)
if we self -
pub instead of choosing
trad pub.
If it's not what it's cracked up to be, I don't have to go
trad -
pubbed the next time.
As for a
trad publishing deal,
if you are successful, then self -
pub will not stop you getting picked up.
I also believe that they offer different terms to
trad pub on Select, like not having to be exclusive, so
if you believe that the playing field isn't already slanted, look no further than that.
If self -
pubbing is going to become the AAA farm team for
trad pubbing, then, like in baseball, only the stars, who fit the team's needs at that moment, are going to get called up.
That said, I'm going to have to start a new series / brand targeted to a traditional publisher, and maybe later I will be able to either afford to publish my self -
pubbed series on my own, or hope that
if I do find a
trad pub later that they might consider my previous works.
IF that trend continues, it will be very difficult to get visibility, as Amazon is methodically squeezing out indie authors, or at least prioritizing
trad pub and their own books.
If the work had merit they would coordinate setting the author up with all those necessary functions normally expected from
trad pub like cover development, final copy edit, marketing and promotion, adding the polish to take a book indie with better chance of success.
If the
trad -
pub path fails for this book, indie publish.
And
if Indy you probably earned way more than you would have as a
trad pubbed person.
I'm not opposed to a
trad pub deal
if it buys you the things you can't get doing it as I am — broad distribution, meaningful marketing, access to film deals — but I can't for the world see why anyone would do a mid-list deal knowing everything we know.
(http://grumpyoldbookman.blogspot.co.uk/) Mr. Allen very kindly advised that I should give a go for a year to go the
trad -
pub route, which involved trying to attract the interest of an agency — and then,
if nothing came of it, going indy.
If indy saturates the market, and
trad pub precipitates out, I am not going to be shedding many tears.
Professionals for cover, proofreading, editing (even with past and current experience with
trad -
pubs) offer their services for reasonable fees, so,
if not for a large marketing machine, what a publisher has to offer, really?
It might also be interesting to take one genre (because of the amount of data) and use a larger depth to see
if indies at the lower end are making more than
trad pub authors at the lower end of the rankings (since many of us sit down here too!)
No matter
if you're
trad -
pub or indie - bound, you have to factor in these changes to your career ahead.
If so, that's a leg up, because it presumes the
trad pub did some diligence and the person's at least marginally competent.
To whit,
if you wanted to bludgeon the
trad pub houses into submission, who wanted to dictate terms to you, you could say, «No, we won't do that — we'll sell something else to all the kindle buyers.»
Now I think writing the sequel is smart (
if you have self -
pub as any kind of a backup plan to your
trad -
pub ambitions).
So as I survey the landscape, I'm thinking to myself,
if I have to do all the work myself anyway, what makes
trad pub such a great draw?
(As an aside, I suspect
if I dug into the publishing contracts with many
trad pubbed authors, I'd find a clause that cuts their royalties to almost nothing when the selling price of a book is greater than a 50 % discount.
If you're
trad pubbed, then you're not paying for your editor, the publisher pays.
And yes,
if both Baen and I die eat
trad pub for lunch, market - share-wise, I count that as a win.
It's as
if they're waiting for
trad pubs to catch up... or not.
My opinion is that
if I am paying a bloated price for a
trad pub book and the profits are going into the maw of the mothership of a multi-national corporation, instead of to the writer, then I will buy indie except for the very small list of writers (some of them yours) that I support because I consider them friends.