I will deepen the understanding of my incorporation into
Jesus at my baptism and how this brought me into a living relationship with all my fellow baptised in Heaven and on earth.
The point is that the heretics were quite prepared to say that the Christ came into
Jesus at the Baptism, that is, with water; but they were not prepared to say that the Christ was in Jesus at his death on the Cross, that is, with the blood.
In one such, a feminine Holy Spirit, descending upon
Jesus at his baptism, says: «My Son, in all the prophets was I waiting for you that you should come and I might rest in you.»
The Holy Spirit thus came upon
Jesus at his baptism and upon the disciples on the day of Pentecost.
Your old man of sin has died with
Jesus at baptism and you have resurrected together with him to a new life.
All of them, both the women and the men, receive empowerment through the same gift of God's Spirit that had descended upon
Jesus at his baptism.
Not exact matches
Baptism is a divine ceremony,
at which I die and resurrect together with
Jesus.
At baptism your old man of sin dies together with
Jesus and you resurrect to a new life together with
Jesus.
Everybody, believing in
Jesus Christ, receives the power to overcome sin
at Holy
Baptism.
The power of
Jesus» death and resurrection is dedicated to us
at Holy
Baptism.
So my independent critical thinking is this:
Jesus Christ founded His Church for His people so when we fall into sin we have His inst!tuted Sacraments to bring us back to the relationship we had with Him
at our
Baptism; to leave the Church in search of something «man made» because of someone's sin would just mean that I would go somewhere else where there are people and people the world over sin!
At the
baptism of
Jesus God has declared to the world that
Jesus is the Son of God in whom he is well pleased.
(Isa 50:4) Hence, when
Jesus was handed the scroll of Isaiah just after his
baptism, he read from it (
at Isaiah 61:1, 2) that «Jehovah's spirit is upon me, because he anointed me to declare good news to the poor... to preach Jehovah's acceptable year.»
Once you have received the
baptism of the Spirit, which all Christians do
at the moment they believe in
Jesus for eternal life, there is no reversing or undoing it.
Nevertheless, when it comes to the water
baptism, you know, the outward sign of the internal stuff, I believe there is another answer to the question why
Jesus» disciples never immersed «in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit «(as in Mt 28:19),
at least is not recorded in the Acts, but «in the name of the Lord
Jesus «(as in whole book of Acts, starting from 2:38).
Two things happened
at the
baptism of
Jesus.
Third,
at Jesus»
baptism, one account of which is always read the first Sunday after Epiphany, Matthew says that the voice from heaven spoke publicly (not privately to
Jesus as in Mark and Luke), «This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.»
At the
baptism,
Jesus» identity was established.
Even John the Baptist seems to have forgotten all that happened
at Jesus»
baptism, including his own words of testimony that the person he baptized was far greater than he, one whose sandals he was not worthy to unloose.
But instead of the story of
Jesus and John
at the Jordan we hear Paul addressing the Corinthians in an exasperated tone, asking them to consider what their own
baptisms mean.
He never once intimates that
Jesus wrought miracles or «mighty works,» or that foregleams of his messianic glory were apparent
at his
baptism or transfiguration, let alone his birth.
The way in which Mark interprets the earthly life of
Jesus is messianic;
Jesus became Messiah not
at his resurrection but
at his
baptism.
But along the way I have moved from
Jesus»
baptism at John's hands to the start of a ministry that will lead to his death in Jerusalem.
It was Mark who began this process of transvaluation, as far as we can make out
at this distance, by insisting that
Jesus became Messiah
at his
baptism — though perhaps the evangelic tradition had already received this interpretation in the Roman community, or even, earlier still, in Palestine or in the early Gentile church.
God spoke as he spoke
at Jesus»
baptism: «This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.»
From this contradiction they escaped in part by claiming that
Jesus» divine nature or messiahship descended on him
at his
baptism and left him just before his death on the cross.
Jensen links this rejuvenation of Lazarus to other images, such as the depiction of
Jesus as a child in the
baptism by John in the Jordan, or Adam and Eve portrayed as infants
at the moment of creation.
Immediately after receiving the Spirit
at baptism,
Jesus is driven by the Spirit into the desert.
Some of the Ebionites accepted the virgin birth, but others held that
Jesus was the son of Joseph and that the Christ descended upon him
at his
baptism.
Anus, who, as we have seen, said that
Jesus was created by God and was not himself God, claimed that God had adopted
Jesus, perhaps
at his
baptism.
At his
baptism, the words of the Psalm were applied to
Jesus.
It was precisely this desire for some infallible external guarantee which
Jesus resisted when he was tempted to test his experience of receiving a divine call
at the time of his
baptism.
Matthew quotes this later (12:18) in a form even closer to the words spoken by the voice
at Jesus»
baptism, reading «my beloved» instead of «my chosen.»
It is used
at Jesus»
baptism, so that the reader knows the true nature of
Jesus.
Just as Mark shows
Jesus being claimed
at his
baptism («This is my beloved Son...»), so we are claimed, signed, branded and sealed
at our
baptism.
Did
Jesus become the Son of God
at birth,
at baptism or was He always the Son?
Its appearance with the voice proclaiming
Jesus as the divine Son associates it with the Holy Spirit, who appears in the form of a dove with the same voice
at Jesus»
baptism.
But Paul would disagree and would say «In order to be be saved you must be in
Jesus the Messiah (by
baptism and faith) and be part of His eschatological and holy community the church which will be vindicated
at the End».
This we must believe, and this is dedicated to us
at Holy
Baptism: Our old man of sin has died together with
Jesus and we have resurrected with
Jesus to a new life.
Craig both seventh day and anglican are believers they are saved by faith in the death of
Jesus Christ and they believe in the forgiveness of sins sactification and the resurection
at Christs return.This is what i meant regarding theology one has to be careful otherwise you exclude groups of christians because some of there other theology may not be the same as ours.They still hold to the central truths of the bible but have differences ie like sabbaths or
baptism but that does not mean they arent saved or are christians.What church denomination do you belong to if you mentioned jehovah witness or mormons that is a different story as they do nt believe that
Jesus Christ is central to there faith they have relegated him to nothing more than a prophet so there is no salvation in those religions.brentnz
Jesus had proclaimed when he first came back into Galilee after his
baptism (Mk 1:15 and parallels): «The kingdom of God is
at hand.
For Aphrahat, as for Ephrem, it was
at his
baptism that
Jesus received the priesthood from John.
In tender manhood
Jesus straight To holy Jordan wendeth; The Holy Ghost from Heaven's gate In dovelike shape descendeth; That thus the truth be not denied, Nor should our faith e» er waver, That the Three Persons all preside,
At baptism's holy laver, And dwell with the believer.
It will help if we look
at this as the counterpart for the disciples of
Jesus» experience
at baptism.
At baptism your old man of sin dies and you resurrect together with
Jesus (this is a spiritual mystery, but reality).
John, however, reports that
Jesus was for a time
at work in Judaea, administering
baptism to the people who came flocking to him, and this seems credible.
Jesus knew who he was
at baptism; his meaning was hriefly glimpsed when Peter made his confession; now, the meaning is even more openly declared.
So he wrote, «We know that the man we once were has been crucified with Christ for the destruction of the sinful self... ’21 He likened the Christian's immersion under the water
at his
baptism to the death and burial of
Jesus.22 The self must die before a man can rise to new life.
At his
baptism,
Jesus had been declared to be the Son of God, and under temptation he had vindicated his right to the title.
The Fourth Gospel, which ignores both the
baptism and the temptation, says that on the day after John's testimony to
Jesus at the Jordan he repeated it in the hearing of two of his disciples (In 1:35 - 42), one of whom was Andrew of Bethsaida in Galilee, and that Andrew thereupon brought his brother Simon to
Jesus, who named him forthwith «The Rock.»