schzney is rubbish, chambers is just potential, mertersacker rubbish,
monreal played out of position but in his favorite position hes rubbish, gibbs rubbish he should be in his peak years now but hes rubbish and a downgrade to the likes of cole, clichy of recent times, wilshire has potential, ramsey has potential, chamberland has potential, arteta rubbish, cazorla has digressed, welbeck potential, giroud rubbish starter decent sub, the only 3 players i believe would get into any team in the world is alexis ozil, walcott and maybe koschilney.
Do you want to see
monreal played out of position again?
Also Cazorla didn't start and
Monreal played out of position at CB.
Not exact matches
Wenger 1/10 for
playing Monreal, Kolasinac, Bellerin and Ox
out of position.
that they might get dispirited seeing the old goat
playing players
out of position, leaving bellerin on the bench while chambers is hung
out to dry at RB and
monreal suffers at CB.
Monreal — 5 He did okay today considering he's being
played out of position.
1) On the pitch: - we always start 3 -4-3 but always switch back to a back 4... it isn't tactical as we look bad in both - Bellerin playibg LWB when you have the best in the bundesliga last season on the bench - Welbeck
playing the striker role when he can do everything but score when you have Lacazette a record signing on the - Monreal in back 3 when you have Kostafi who can flank Per in the middle protecting him against pace as well as having a commending figure and - Telling Xhaka to not play as a 3rd offensive player when Ramsey dashes - Playing a guy in Ox so out of position and persisting with him over preseason as if he would be there for years when it is clear he doesn't want to play for us (his case is a wei
playing the striker role when he can do everything but score when you have Lacazette a record signing on the -
Monreal in back 3 when you have Kostafi who can flank Per in the middle protecting him against pace as well as having a commending figure and - Telling Xhaka to not
play as a 3rd offensive player when Ramsey dashes -
Playing a guy in Ox so out of position and persisting with him over preseason as if he would be there for years when it is clear he doesn't want to play for us (his case is a wei
Playing a guy in Ox so
out of position and persisting with him over preseason as if he would be there for years when it is clear he doesn't want to
play for us (his case is a weird one)
Played out of position with
Monreal injured and Gibbs not risked.
Arsenal
play with fire by passing the ball around too much especially in our third, it invites the opposition to push up and put pressure, something which Arsenal are known to fold against, especially
playing players
out of position like
Monreal.
Then lets
play players
out of position,
monreal is a lb only, chambers better at cb or dm, mertesacker needs getting off the pitch and not on the bench either.
The sad thing is is that we shall only get a few more years
out of Monreal at his highest ability, before age starts to
play a part on his style
of play, at which point Arsenal will have to consider whether Gibbs (if he's still with us) is ready to retake his
position, or if a new player is needed.
They have to go
out and perform under bizarre circumstances like being
played out of position (
monreal, ozil, cazorla, chambers), not being
played at all, (podolski, campbell), adjust to poor tactics and substitutions,
play through injuries (koscielny, ozil), not
play at all because
of injuries (long list), adapting to new
positions (arteta at CDM, Chambers at RB).
Conclusion:
Out of 11 players for 5
positions only 5 were physically ready and the only solid option was to
play Holding
Monreal and Kola and Bell as RWB and Ox as LWB or vice versa, or the other option would be to
play a not so fit Mustafi but then we couldnt have given them a fight for it if had been necessary..
Monreal is
playing out of position so I accept he's mistakes the problem is the manager putting us in this
position.
We have even allowed ourselves to
play both Nacho
Monreal and Sead Kolasinac
out of position in central defensive roles, but the crazy thing is we allowed Gabriel Paulista to leave during this time, and now look set to allow Shkodran Mustafi to leave also.
This is an incredibly difficult question to answer for a variety
of reasons, most importantly because over the years our once vaunted «beautiful» style
of play has become a shadow
of it's former self, only to be replaced by a less than stellar «plug and
play» mentality where players
play out of position and adjustments / substitutions are rarely forthcoming before the 75th minute... if you look at our current players, very few would make sense in the traditional Wengerian system... at present, we don't have the personnel to move the ball quickly from deep - lying
position, efficient one touch midfielders that can make the necessary through balls or the disciplined and pacey forwards to stretch defences into wide
positions, without the aid
of the backs coming up into the final 3rd, so that we can attack the defensive lanes in the same clinical fashion we did years ago... on this current squad, we have only 1 central defender on staf, Mustafi, who seems to have any prowess in the offensive zone or who can even pass two zones through so that we can advance
play quickly
out of our own end (I have seen some inklings that suggest Holding might have some offensive qualities but too early to tell)... unfortunately Mustafi has a tendency to get himself in trouble when he gets overly aggressive on the ball... from our backs
out wide, we've seen pace from the likes
of Bellerin and Gibbs and the spirited albeit offensively stunted
play of Monreal, but none
of these players possess the skill - set required in the offensive zone for the new Wenger scheme which requires deft touches, timely runs to the baseline and consistent crossing, especially when Giroud was
playing and his ratio
of scored goals per clear chances was relatively low (better last year though)... obviously I like Bellerin's future prospects, as you can't teach pace, but I do worry that he regressed last season, which was obvious to Wenger because there was no way he would have used Ox as the right side wing - back so often knowing that Barcelona could come calling in the off - season, if he thought otherwise... as for our midfielders, not a single one, minus the more confident Xhaka I watched
played for the Swiss national team a couple years ago, who truly makes sense under the traditional Wenger model... Ramsey holds onto the ball too long, gives the ball away cheaply far too often and abandons his defensive responsibilities on a regular basis (doesn't score enough recently to justify): that being said, I've always thought he does possess a little something special, unfortunately he thinks so too... Xhaka is a little too slow to ever boss the midfield and he tends to telegraph his one true strength, his long ball
play: although I must admit he did get a bit better during some points in the latter part
of last season... it always made me wonder why whenever he
played with Coq Wenger always seemed to
play Francis in a more advanced role on the pitch... as for Coq, he is way too reckless at the wrong times and has exhibited little offensive prowess yet finds himself in and around the box far too often... let's face it Wenger was ready to throw him in the trash heap when injuries forced him to use Francis and then he had the nerve to act like this was all part
of a bigger Wenger constructed plan... he like Ramsey, Xhaka and Elneny don't offer the skills necessary to satisfy the quick transitory nature
of our old offensive scheme or the stout defensive mindset needed to protect the defensive zone so that our offensive players can remain aggressive in the final third... on the front end, we have Ozil, a player
of immense skill but stunted by his physical demeanor that tends to offend, the fact that he's been
played out of position far too many times since arriving and that the players in front
of him, minus Sanchez, make little to no sense considering what he has to offer (especially Giroud); just think about the quick counter-attack offence in Real or the space and protection he receives in the German National team's midfield, where teams couldn't afford to focus too heavily on one individual... this player was a passing «specialist» long before he arrived in North London, so only an arrogant or ignorant individual would try to reinvent the wheel and / or not surround such a talent with the necessary components... in regards to Ox, Walcott and Welbeck, although they all possess serious talents I see them in large part as headless chickens who are on the injury table too much, lack the necessary first - touch and / or lack the finishing flair to warrant their inclusion in a regular starting eleven; I would say that,
of the 3, Ox showed the most upside once we went to a back 3, but even he became a bit too consumed by his pending contract talks before the season ended and that concerned me a bit... if I had to choose one
of those 3 players to stay on it would be Ox due to his potential as a plausible alternative to Bellerin in that wing - back
position should we continue to use that formation... in Sanchez, we get one
of the most committed skill players we've seen on this squad for some years but that could all change soon, if it hasn't already
of course... strangely enough, even he doesn't make sense given the constructs
of the original Wenger offensive model because he holds onto the ball too long and he will give the ball up a little too often in the offensive zone... a fact that is largely forgotten due to his infectious energy and the fact that the numbers he has achieved seem to justify the means... finally, and in many ways most crucially, Giroud, there is nothing about this team or the offensive system that Wenger has traditionally employed that would even suggest such a player would make sense as a starter... too slow, too inefficient and way too easily dispossessed... once again, I think he has some special skills and, at times, has showed some world - class qualities but he's lack
of mobility is an albatross around the necks
of our offence... so when you ask who would be our best starting 11, I don't have a clue because
of the 5 or 6 players that truly deserve a place in this side, 1 just arrived, 3 aren't under contract beyond 2018 and the other was just sold to Juve... man, this is theraputic because following this team is like an addiction to heroin without the benefits
The truth is the players have no clue what they have to do:
Monreal looks so lost
playing out of any
position, Bellerin looks like a young lady shopping at the mall, Koscielny is just clearing balls, Xhaka is missing almost all the forward passes, Iwobi runs with the ball 3 - 4 m and then looses it, Giroud is just waiting for crosses, Alexis thinks he is Messi but he is dribbling no one etc..
They are both strikers and Wenger likes
playing players
out of position ie used to
play Ozil on the left, Adelaide LWB,
Monreal CB, Ox LWB and LW.
if Wenger is scared
of playing belerin at rb... put gibbs there or
monreal... atleast we'll only have 1 player
out of position....
Monreal — 3 He was shocking and it's not really his fault as he's being
played massively
out of position.
Monreal — 6.5 He was pretty decent considering he's being
played out of position.
arsenal have suffered recently from
playing quality players
out of position... Sadly
Monreal isn't quality and the belief that over a season we have adequate back up with him as CB is just dumb beyond belief... this was a good win against an under strength competitor... but we need a DM and another striking option for sure....
RE =
Monreal I'm surprised AW hasn't tried it yet, he has
played every player
out of position in the last few years, me personally we have too much offensive
play in our game great to watch but creates congestion in the opposite goal and no one is left to guard the fort when opposition counter attack
Recently, our bad run
of games happened during periods where we've had certain players
playing out of their preferred
position - Ozil, Santi,
Monreal.
The lack
of focus for the Liverpool game was vintage up and down Arsenal and vintage poorly prepared for the PL to start and vintage
out of the blue redicoulous team selection that included 20 % players who didn't want to
play for Arsenal and other 30 % (Bellerin, Ox,
Monreal) being
played out of position.
You guys give
monreal a lot
of shit on here, but honestly he's
played well, i haven't noticed a poor game, even though he's
out of position.
Then you loan
out Jenkinson and right now the clown has to
play Monreal at CB
out of position — as he does with every one else!!
But to that end,
playing Oxlade - Chamberlain at wing - back has resulted in Wenger
playing players
out of position: Héctor Bellerin has gone to left wing - back because he's better than Oxlade - Chamberlain there, Sead Kolasinac is
playing at left centre - back, which he can
play but probably not in conjunction with Nacho
Monreal as the central defensive player.