During the conversation, Bertolaso also told Stati that his second - in - command, Bernardo de Bernardinis, would call her to arrange the meeting in order to «shut up any imbecile, to calm inferences, worries, etc.» This is thought to be a reference to Gioacchino Giuliani, a technician at the National Institute of
Nuclear Physics near L'Aquila who it is reported had alarmed people in a nearby town after (falsely) predicting that a major earthquake would strike.