With a disciplined midfielder besides him he turns into a beast.
Not exact matches
Chambers would have been playing the holding
midfield / 3rd Central Defender Role (Its still beats me how and why wenger didn't even try Vermaleen in that role — his cautious attitude is one of Arsenals biggest albatros) If Arsenal had started playing Joel Campbell on the flanks since the beginning of the season, when it was obvious Carzola was misfiring, Campbell will be getting used to the league by now and will have been chipping in
with the odd goals time and again - but NO Arsene will stick
with Carzola and even play him in the wings thereby putting pressure on gibbs because he lack the
discipline to stay there and will rather keep roaming to the certain.
Xhaka can not tackle which is amazing considering he is supposed to be a defensive
midfielder, Ramsey lacks
discipline which he has always done and regards himself as up there
with Messi & Neymar which is he is nowhere near, both of them lack the athleticism which is necessary in their positions in today's game as could be seen from Sundays performance they were completely outplayed some fairly average players on the Liverpool side.
He will NEVER be a proficient B2B
midfielder because he lacks the necessary defensive
discipline and honestly suffocates Ozils creative space
with his mindless bombing runs forward.
Of course the centre defence and
midfield have to step up and play
with discipline.
In the
midfield, (including RWB & LWB) we have a whole bunch of tweeners... none offer the full package, none make sense in our manager's current favourite formation, except for Sead on the left and Ox on the right, and all of them have never shown any consistency for more than a heartbeat... Sead, who I'm including in this category because of our present formation, looks like a positive addition, minus his occasional brain farts, but I would rather see what he could do in a back 4 before making my mind up... Ox, who has never played better, which isn't saying much considering his largely underwhelming play in previous seasons, seems to have found a home in this new formation; unfortunately, can we really expect this oft - injured player to handle the taxing duties that come
with said position over the long haul, not to mention, it looks like he has no intention of staying... Ramsey has relied on the empathy that stems from his gruesome injury years ago and the excitement that was generated a few years back when he finally seemed to put in altogether, but on the whole he has been a big disappointment (neither he nor the Ox have scored enough to warrant a regular spot)... Wiltshire should be put on a weekly contract then played until he suffers his first injury, if and when that occurs he should be shipped - out and no one should very be allowed to say his name on club grounds ever again... Elnehy & Coq are average players who couldn't make any of the top 7 teams currently in the EPL... both have showed some great energy on the pitch, but neither are top quality and no good team can afford to have that many average players on their bench playing the same position, especially
with Coq's injury history /
discipline concerns and Elheny's headless chicken tendencies... as for Xhaka, his tenure here so far has been incredibly underwhelming... we know he has some skills to provide the long ball but his defensive work is piss poor and he gives the ball away too cheaply and far too often... finally, the enigma himself, Ozil, so much skill
with his left foot but his presence has been more frustrating than uplifting... in many respects his failure has been directly related to the failure of this club to provide him
with the necessary players up front, minus Sanchez of course, and unless something drastic happens very soon his legacy will be largely a negative one (much like Wenger's)
something new for sure will happen at the very least we will be getting new players the question being who...... a striker
with 30 goals abomyang a central defender a
midfielder new maneger who diago simone will do well
with atlatico or lazio he is connected to them arsenal needs some one within its ranks some one connected to them But today we seen an ugly encounter were certain players should have had the red i think technology should come in to it and players should be
disciplined after The premier league is a physical strong competition to win it you got to be very strong very accurate and very demanding and if you do not have the team to do it you do not win our team didn't live to exceptions of last season so there for changes will have to happen
For me Ox needs to just add
discipline, he needs to know when to take players on at right time
with cover behind him in
midfield.
If they opt to play
with only two central defenders in the back, they should have a very
disciplined defensive
midfielder to protect the defenders.
and
with Coquelin on the bench the central
midfield of Xhaka and Elneny must be
disciplined as well as effective.
Sorry for continually being ignorant and missing the point («your» point to be precise)-- but playing one - twos
with Alexis in the opposition penalty area in the Copa and being deployed at the head of Juve's
midfield diamond is not convincing me that his coaches / managers see his best position as a
disciplined holding
midfield player.
This is an incredibly difficult question to answer for a variety of reasons, most importantly because over the years our once vaunted «beautiful» style of play has become a shadow of it's former self, only to be replaced by a less than stellar «plug and play» mentality where players play out of position and adjustments / substitutions are rarely forthcoming before the 75th minute... if you look at our current players, very few would make sense in the traditional Wengerian system... at present, we don't have the personnel to move the ball quickly from deep - lying position, efficient one touch
midfielders that can make the necessary through balls or the
disciplined and pacey forwards to stretch defences into wide positions, without the aid of the backs coming up into the final 3rd, so that we can attack the defensive lanes in the same clinical fashion we did years ago... on this current squad, we have only 1 central defender on staf, Mustafi, who seems to have any prowess in the offensive zone or who can even pass two zones through so that we can advance play quickly out of our own end (I have seen some inklings that suggest Holding might have some offensive qualities but too early to tell)... unfortunately Mustafi has a tendency to get himself in trouble when he gets overly aggressive on the ball... from our backs out wide, we've seen pace from the likes of Bellerin and Gibbs and the spirited albeit offensively stunted play of Monreal, but none of these players possess the skill - set required in the offensive zone for the new Wenger scheme which requires deft touches, timely runs to the baseline and consistent crossing, especially when Giroud was playing and his ratio of scored goals per clear chances was relatively low (better last year though)... obviously I like Bellerin's future prospects, as you can't teach pace, but I do worry that he regressed last season, which was obvious to Wenger because there was no way he would have used Ox as the right side wing - back so often knowing that Barcelona could come calling in the off - season, if he thought otherwise... as for our
midfielders, not a single one, minus the more confident Xhaka I watched played for the Swiss national team a couple years ago, who truly makes sense under the traditional Wenger model... Ramsey holds onto the ball too long, gives the ball away cheaply far too often and abandons his defensive responsibilities on a regular basis (doesn't score enough recently to justify): that being said, I've always thought he does possess a little something special, unfortunately he thinks so too... Xhaka is a little too slow to ever boss the
midfield and he tends to telegraph his one true strength, his long ball play: although I must admit he did get a bit better during some points in the latter part of last season... it always made me wonder why whenever he played
with Coq Wenger always seemed to play Francis in a more advanced role on the pitch... as for Coq, he is way too reckless at the wrong times and has exhibited little offensive prowess yet finds himself in and around the box far too often... let's face it Wenger was ready to throw him in the trash heap when injuries forced him to use Francis and then he had the nerve to act like this was all part of a bigger Wenger constructed plan... he like Ramsey, Xhaka and Elneny don't offer the skills necessary to satisfy the quick transitory nature of our old offensive scheme or the stout defensive mindset needed to protect the defensive zone so that our offensive players can remain aggressive in the final third... on the front end, we have Ozil, a player of immense skill but stunted by his physical demeanor that tends to offend, the fact that he's been played out of position far too many times since arriving and that the players in front of him, minus Sanchez, make little to no sense considering what he has to offer (especially Giroud); just think about the quick counter-attack offence in Real or the space and protection he receives in the German National team's
midfield, where teams couldn't afford to focus too heavily on one individual... this player was a passing «specialist» long before he arrived in North London, so only an arrogant or ignorant individual would try to reinvent the wheel and / or not surround such a talent
with the necessary components... in regards to Ox, Walcott and Welbeck, although they all possess serious talents I see them in large part as headless chickens who are on the injury table too much, lack the necessary first - touch and / or lack the finishing flair to warrant their inclusion in a regular starting eleven; I would say that, of the 3, Ox showed the most upside once we went to a back 3, but even he became a bit too consumed by his pending contract talks before the season ended and that concerned me a bit... if I had to choose one of those 3 players to stay on it would be Ox due to his potential as a plausible alternative to Bellerin in that wing - back position should we continue to use that formation... in Sanchez, we get one of the most committed skill players we've seen on this squad for some years but that could all change soon, if it hasn't already of course... strangely enough, even he doesn't make sense given the constructs of the original Wenger offensive model because he holds onto the ball too long and he will give the ball up a little too often in the offensive zone... a fact that is largely forgotten due to his infectious energy and the fact that the numbers he has achieved seem to justify the means... finally, and in many ways most crucially, Giroud, there is nothing about this team or the offensive system that Wenger has traditionally employed that would even suggest such a player would make sense as a starter... too slow, too inefficient and way too easily dispossessed... once again, I think he has some special skills and, at times, has showed some world - class qualities but he's lack of mobility is an albatross around the necks of our offence... so when you ask who would be our best starting 11, I don't have a clue because of the 5 or 6 players that truly deserve a place in this side, 1 just arrived, 3 aren't under contract beyond 2018 and the other was just sold to Juve... man, this is theraputic because following this team is like an addiction to heroin without the benefits
As we don't have any real defensive
midfielders, we need a combination of players in
midfield, that can protect the defense,
with some defensive
discipline.
With Flamini also thinking he all of a sudden is a Gerrard I really hope both
midfielders have good think b4 the city game, be
disciplined and surely we can win.
It gives us a great blend of power, pace and hard work up front,
with Santi Cazorla and Aaron Ramsey adding creative ability from
midfield, although the Welshman will hopefully keep his
discipline and help Flamini to protect the defence.
Also, if Ramsey were fit, I'd definitely have him in my first eleven... Ramsey could not play
with Coquelin at the base of
midfield because until most recently, he needed to have a ball carrier right next to him right after winning the ball and in most cases Ramsey was always very far from him but Cazorla is far more
disciplined in positioning hence why «Coqzorla» works so well however
with Xhaka, its quite different because he can carry and distribute his own balls and frees Ramsey up to roam which is where he thrives best, it is no coincidence that Ramsey had his best season playing
with Arteta but while Arteta could also carry and distribute his own balls he is no ball winner like Xhaka or Coquelin.
Bring in Ospina for Cech; Gabriel for Koscielny (Kos is 31 and its time we start testing Gabriel and Holding beside Mustafi to see what our long term first choice defensive partnership will look like); Gibbs for Monreal (Wenger needs to start rotating these 2 more frequently as we need to ascertain if Gibbs can adequately produce the quality to hold that position from next season for a few years as I'm thinking this might be Nacho's last or penultimate season
with Arsenal, it will also give a hint as to the type of Left - back to target in the summer — first teamer or backup and age as well); I'll like to see an Elneny — Xhaka partnership in this fixture as we might just never know, this might be our replica of the Kos Mustafa partnership in the centre of the park, Two
disciplined (positionally, i mean) central
midfielders who can play box to box; Chamberlain for Iwobi, and Perez for Alexis should do the work.
I will say it again Coquelin is the only true DM arsenal has, Chambers can be converted into a DM also, which i feel would be his most suited position, Xhaka is not really a DM but more a deep lying playmaker
with some defensive qualities, cazorla also has that trait, Ramsay, Iwobi and wilshere are actually want to be number 10s, who are considered box to box
midfielders but both lack the defensive discilpline, Elneny is our only box to box
midfielder who is very
disciplined and Ozil our number 10 who although provides a lot of assist does not provide a goal treat.
In both we have two supposed wide players and 3 central
midfielders with one of them to be more
disciplined.
What about Lampards
discipline for England when he didn't have the benefit of playing ahead of two holding
midfielders, did Lampard juggle his attacking and defensive instincts
with aplomb..
ramsey is a good payer when he decides to remain
disciplined less greedy and focus more on creating chances and filling our
midfield with his presence and providing eergy for both attacks and defense, remember he is a complete
midfielder.
kolasinac should be tasked
with dealing
with ericksen and should be more defensive in this match mertz should be
discipline and deal
with the long balls and high balls kos should deal
with the through balls coquelin needs to remain defensive and not act like a ball playing
midfielder.
With Cazorla out we lack positional
discipline in the
midfield as well.
Coquelin played the defensive
midfielder role brilliantly,
with a
disciplined performance.
Problems
with discipline and consistency plagued the player when he started out at the Emirates, but there is no denying that Granit Xhaka has been top - notch since Arsene Wenger introduced the new system and has established a solid partnership
with Aaron Ramsey in the heart of Arsenal's
midfield.
Out of all our
midfielders Elneny is the first on the team sheet as hes
disciplined mobile and usually plays it safe, Xhaka is a complete liabilty god knows who many times he misplaced simple passes same
with Ramsey whom people here love because he can run around like a headless chicken for 90 mins.
santi plays the b2b role now and lines up
with Le coq in a 2 man
midfield the only difference is he is much more
disciplined than ramsey so and he very carefully chooses when it's appropriate to venture forward.
Paddy McNair had an extremely fruitful time on international duty, winning specific praise from manager Michael O'Neill after putting in a
disciplined display in an familiar holding
midfield role in a 1 - 1 draw
with Wales.
It was two deep banks of four and Henry on his own up front,
with Mathieu Flamini replacing Fabregas to add more
discipline to the
midfield.
The Wales international produced a
disciplined, battling display in
midfield alongside Granit Xhaka - and came closest to scoring for us
with a shot that hit the post.
I thought our
midfield too looked
disciplined up until the substitution, but in the second half Ramsey faded and Özil was always going to find it difficult
with two and sometimes three players on him.
With Lee - Chung Yong being
disciplined, Bakary Sako is set to be the man to deputize for Zaha on the right hand side and the other attacking positions in
midfield is likely to be occupied by Jason Puncheon and Yannick Bolasie.
However, he is not a defensive
midfielder and
with Kouyate also lacking the
discipline we were never going to control the central areas in order to dominate the game even against a team as poor as Sunderland.
This worsened the balance in
midfield,
with only Fernandinho
disciplined enough to carry out the necessary defensive work.
If our
midfield 3 are more
disciplined then they will have no problem covering the opposition wide areas if play breaks down, espescially
with the pace of Bellerin to cover.
I am not sure about Elneny
with Jack or Santi because Elneny still looks a bit more go forward at times compared to Le Coq's more
disciplined holding style, and I think both Santi and Jack would require that specific
disciplined midfield minder to let them fully express themselves in their role alongside.