The same can be done
with ocean temps.
Perhaps it has to do
with the ocean temps being «Raw» and the land being «Adjusted», sorry Quality Controlled.
With ocean temps increasing, it is only a matter of time before we will be able to water - ski down the mountain of water that will form above the Mariana Trench.
With ocean temps increasing, it is only a matter of time before we will be able to water - ski down the mountain of water that will form above the Mariana Trench.
Not exact matches
Set atop the cliffs of Pointe Milou, overlooking the
ocean and
with unforgettable sunset views of surrounding islands, you'll find Bon
Temps: a 6 - bedroom villa built in the Palladian style and fit for a Roman emperor.
Illuminated
with blue LED lights embedded in the tops of the walls, Brian Tolle's
Tempest brings the experience of dynamic
ocean water into the North Forest.
(Or are these just particular configurations of temperatures,
with the average
temp of the entire
oceans remaining the same?)
Undoubtedly in past climate changes, increasing
temps did in fact cause CO2 to move from the
ocean to the air as solubility of a gas in a liquid decreases
with higher
temps.
But today, even
with higher
temps, the
ocean is absorbing more CO2 as a result of our emissions.
I've updated the graph at top to show a comparison
with GISS
ocean temps, click to refresh if it doesn't show up as a two - panel graph.
If you add to this the evidence Roger A. Pielke, Sr. offers in his rebuttal of RC propaganda, I think one can safely and sanely declare that the AGW proponents are working
with a house of cards: it looks like a great integrated, well designed structure, a consensus — especially to the so - called environmentalists and to their media and political allies — but so many of its foundational data sets (
ocean temps, net ice melt, etc) don't support their model; at the very least, they don't support the hysterical, «save the planet» nuttiness that is rampant today.
You'd think that hurricane energy would be a nice proxu (
with a lag / lead, I'm sure) for
ocean temp, and yet there is a slope to yhe
temp graph, and not the hurricane energy graph.
You'd think that hurricane energy would be a nice proxy (
with a lag / lead, I'm sure) for
ocean temp, and yet there is a slope to the
temp graph, and not the hurricane energy graph.
Following Nylo, the
ocean surface
temps are best compared
with the seasonal signal in CO2 at Mauna Loa.
Ocean surface heat and anomalous warmth at the poles were deciding factors for the new September record with very few regions of the global ocean surface showing cooler than average temps and with extraordinary heat at the poles, especially in Antarc
Ocean surface heat and anomalous warmth at the poles were deciding factors for the new September record
with very few regions of the global
ocean surface showing cooler than average temps and with extraordinary heat at the poles, especially in Antarc
ocean surface showing cooler than average
temps and
with extraordinary heat at the poles, especially in Antarctica.
When he presented his misleading graph, when he said 97 % of climate scientists agree, (knowing full well the actual situation that the number is bogus and misleading,) when he mentions adjustments to satellite data but not to surface temperatures
with major past cooling and absurd derived precision to.005 * C, when he defends precision in surface global averages but ignores major estimates of
temps and krigging in Arctic, Africa, Asia and
oceans or Antarctica, he forfeits credibility.
of the proxies are marine sediments which should correlate
with SST's or even deeper
ocean temp.
With the Earth known as the «water planet» because of over 70 % of the globe covered by deep
oceans, warmer
temps directly result in more evaporation of the
ocean water into the air - clouds.
It's possible it got past us, but
with the extensive coverage by ARGO and other
ocean temp measuring devices, it does seem to be a stretch.
(B) We have been measuring
ocean temps from 0 to 700 meters
with some accuracy for some time.
It goes
with saying that all the usual caveats apply as to cloud clover,
ocean temps and pressure levels etc..
By bringing the deep
ocean into play, it's like turning on a bigger AC -
with observed changes to surface global
temps in recent years.
Ocean currents and weather have as much to do
with Artic ice as temperatures, but UAH for 60 - 85N shows increasing
temps from 1991 to 2007, and generally decreasing
temp anomaly since.
Also, warmer
ocean temps seem to be associated
with the thicker ice sheets.
That
temp rise then causes something to outgas CO2 (possibly
oceans, but maybe not) that then raises the
temp even more (along
with other GHG that feedback and enhance the warming), which causes more outgasing.
If the
Ocean slowly cools
with radiant heat loss to space via warmer Arctic waters and a discernible decrease in atmospheric
temps the last 1.5 years since the Super El Nino of 2016, then there should be more atmospheric CO2 uptake by cooling
oceans.
You should provide evidence that CO2 is causing the air and
ocean temps to rise
with out hiding the decline etc..
Obviously the
ocean cycles then transport heat subsequently so that there is immediate and long - term output to atmosphere that shows up in temperature series
with long - term (150 + years)
Temp / PDO + AMO+S unspot integral correlation 0.96.
There's a lovely 520million year correlation between GCR and
ocean temps far stronger than the correlation between
temps and CO2,
with the peaks of temperature coinciding
with the minimums of GCR, and snowball earth episodes coinciding
with the GCR maxima (Shaviv & Veizer 2003).
True, generally
ocean cycles will be a larger influence, but the connection of solar cycles (specifically through solar irradiance which rises and falls in tandem
with sunspots) to global
temps obvious.
That's consistent
with the atmosphere and from what I remember there is a rough calculation that
ocean 0 - 700m
temps should be about 1/2 the rise of air
temps.
OWASLT = Sum (
Temp x Mass x Heat Capacity) / Sum (Mass x Heat Capacity), and looking at all pieces of mass components in the atmosphere + mass in the
ocean (say down to 2000m or whatever depth would appropriate
with respect to available global data & that should rightfully be included for an all inclusive weighted average temperature like this).
The «poor fits» in
ocean oscillation effects for 1900 - 1920 (and beyond) in this report combined
with the magnetic «poor fit» of 1900 - 1920 would actually cancel each other to cause the measured
temps pretty well... Can you see what I mean?
Your quotes here pertain to surface
temp, offer no apparent awareness of the physical problems associated
with arguing that changes in
ocean currents are self - heating the
oceans to depth.
Ocean temps vary in ARGO
with Net toa flux and in the order of magnitude — and most of this is changes in reflected SW.
Warmer air temperatures
with ocean temperatures lagging would result in La Nina's having a relatively larger spread between water and air
temps producing a stronger effect even
with weak La Nina's.
Ocean temperatures are rising slower than over land, therefore even if tropical land tropospheric temperatures were being set by a moist adiabat over the ocean, it would still have a smaller ratio with respect to the land
Ocean temperatures are rising slower than over land, therefore even if tropical land tropospheric temperatures were being set by a moist adiabat over the
ocean, it would still have a smaller ratio with respect to the land
ocean, it would still have a smaller ratio
with respect to the land
temp.
As for
ocean heat content, Argo hasn't been in the water long enough to show a clear signal, and there have been problems
with the data, including a significant correction (you do recall the correction to the UAH satellite record after years of insistence that their data showed the surface
temp record trends were completely wrong?).
Not to mention, why do skeptics continue to ignore, dismiss, or simply «argue
with» by any means possible, the far more important fact that most of the increased absorbed heat energy is going into warming the
oceans, not the atmosphere (thus keeping the ambient air
temp rise from registering as high as it otherwise would, and impacting FUTURE climate far more).
These efforts are still band - aids and can't keep pace
with the continued deterioration of reefs» ecosystems, as long as the reasons —
ocean temps and acidity rising along
with greenhouse gasses — aren't addressed aggressively.
If it is from space, it's an albedo measurement and the recovery has to do
with a reduction of cloud cover to let more energy in to restore the balance, but if that's true, then the mechanism is not clear because the signal to restore is not evident in the
ocean temps, at least globally.
The problem is, that when temperatures then stop rising, city / land temperatures don't return to equilibrium
with ocean — if we believe land / city
temps.