Not exact matches
Scientists knew
about the warming
effects of
greenhouse gases, but proponents of global cooling argued that
greenhouse warming would be more than offset by Earth's orbital changes.
7It is particularly ironic that Lomborg would offer such a ridiculously precise estimate of the cost of the impacts of climate change from carbon dioxide emissions, inasmuch as the entire thrust of his books chapter on «global warming» is that practically nothing
about the
effects of
greenhouse gases is known with certainty.
However, it is the atmosphere with increased
greenhouse gases which makes the additional insulation and this is what
effects the changing radiative fluxes that we are talking
about.
So whenever one talks
about aerosols, one needs to put a caveat noting that
greenhouse gases also come from fossil fuels and are the dominant
effect.
The cooling
effect from this aerosol forcing is thought to be
about half that of
greenhouse gases, but in the opposing (cooling) direction.
... The Earth's atmospheric methane concentration has increased by
about 150 % since 1750, and it accounts for 20 % of the total radiative forcing from all of the long - lived and globally mixed
greenhouse gases (these
gases don't include water vapor which is by far the largest component of the
greenhouse effect).
Carbon dioxide and sulfur
gases blown extremely high into the atmosphere would have the opposite of a
greenhouse effect: surface temperatures plummeting by more than 20 degrees Celsius, or
about 40 degrees Fahrenheit.
However, the net
effect in terms of forcing is only
about 0.27 W / m ^ 2 — much less than
greenhouse gas forcing.
Second, if C02 didn't matter («minor
greenhouse gas»), there would never have been any reason to care
about the «iris
effect».
CC: NO, we are talking
about how the anthropogenic addition of CO2 and other
greenhouse gases to the atmosphere will
effect global temperatures and hence climate.
If carbon dioxide and other long - lived
greenhouse gases were not building up in the atmosphere, we would not be particularly worried
about the climate
effect from the short - lived
gases and aerosols.
Re «Estimates of the drivers of global temperature change in the ice ages show that the changes in
greenhouse gases (CO2, methane and nitrous oxide) made up
about a third of the
effect, amplifying the ice sheet changes by
about 50 % (Köhler et al, 2010).»
The second example demonstrated that, out of 100 people,
about 80 percent of them correctly identified the main
greenhouse gas (76 %
effect from CO2 plus 4 more people who identified water vapor).
I honestly think she's too young to be listening to me going on and on
about such confusing stuff as oil,
gas, coal,
greenhouse effect, global warming, manmade climate change, population explosion (she knows
about it), deforestation, desertification, rapid extinction of other species, pollution, problems, overconsumption, overindustrialization, problems, politics, economics, consumerism, and problems, religion, war, etc., etc., etc..
The proportion of forcing to CO2 amount eventually becomes linear as the amount of CO2 goes to zero — this is nothing special; any continuous smooth function can be approximated by a straight line over a sufficiently short interval; adding a sufficiently small amount of any
greenhouse gas will have
about half the
effect as adding twice as much.
... In the late 1980s, there was a sense of the new
about the
greenhouse effect, even though scientists had been positing since the 1890s that heat - trapping
gases, particularly carbon dioxide released by burning coal and other focal fuels could raise global temperatures.
The IPCC 2001 report states «Several recent reconstructions estimate that variations in solar irradiance give rise to a forcing at the Earth's surface of
about 0.6 to 0.7 Wm - 2 since the Maunder Minimum and
about half this over the 20th century... All reconstructions indicate that the direct
effect of variations in solar forcing over the 20th century was
about 20 to 25 % of the change in forcing due to increases in the well - mixed
greenhouse gases.»
In these, despite the various minor ups and downs, the general trend is down until
about 1850 CE when anthropogenic
effects really started lifting the temperature, following the excess global warming (so - called
greenhouse)
gases.
They say their findings, which focused on the
effect titling had on forest clearing and disturbance in the Peruvian Amazon between 2002 and 2005, suggest that the increasing trend towards decentralized forest governance via granting indigenous groups and other local communities formal legal title to their lands could play a key role in global efforts to slow both tropical forest destruction, which the researchers note is responsible for
about the same amount of
greenhouse gas emissions as the transportation sector, and climate change.»
Water vapor feedback can also amplify the warming
effect of other
greenhouse gases, such that the warming brought
about by increased carbon dioxide allows more water vapor to enter the atmosphere.
Greenhouse Effect = +33.00 ⁰ C Water Vapour causes 95 % of the effect = 31.35 ⁰ C Other Greenhouse gases cause 5 % of the Effect = 1.65 ⁰ C CO2 is about 75 % of the Effect of all GHGs = 1.
Effect = +33.00 ⁰ C Water Vapour causes 95 % of the
effect = 31.35 ⁰ C Other Greenhouse gases cause 5 % of the Effect = 1.65 ⁰ C CO2 is about 75 % of the Effect of all GHGs = 1.
effect = 31.35 ⁰ C Other
Greenhouse gases cause 5 % of the
Effect = 1.65 ⁰ C CO2 is about 75 % of the Effect of all GHGs = 1.
Effect = 1.65 ⁰ C CO2 is
about 75 % of the
Effect of all GHGs = 1.
Effect of all GHGs = 1.24 ⁰ C
These feedbacks and their complex relations make me sceptical
about our ability to predict what
effects our
greenhouse gas emissions have on the climate.
«Water vapor constitutes Earth's most significant
greenhouse gas, accounting for
about 95 % of Earth's
greenhouse effect (5).»
It's immediately clear that climate models are unable to resolve any thermal
effect of
greenhouse gas emissions or tell us anything
about future air temperatures.
I'd like to stick to facts: * CO2 levels are rising because we emit CO2 (so we can do something
about it) * CO2 is a
greenhouse gas * CO2 thus contributes to warming of the surface * Other
effects compensate or amplify these changes * Those other
effects haven't reversed / stopped the warming trend yet
John Carter August 8, 2014 at 12:58 am chooses to state his position on the
greenhouse effect in the following 134 word sentence: «But given the [1] basics of the
greenhouse effect, the fact that with just a very small percentage of
greenhouse gas molecules in the air this
effect keeps the earth
about 55 - 60 degrees warmer than it would otherwise be, and the fact that through easily recognizable if [2] inadvertent growing patterns we have at this point probably at least [3] doubled the total collective amount in heat absorption and re-radiation capacity of long lived atmospheric
greenhouse gases (nearly doubling total that of the [4] leading one, carbon dioxide, in the modern era), to [5] levels not collectively seen on earth in several million years — levels that well predated the present ice age and extensive earth surface ice conditions — it goes [6] against basic physics and basic geologic science to not be «predisposed» to the idea that this would ultimately impact climate.»
The nation is once again assessing how best to stimulate the deployment of advanced energy technologies in response to recent high energy prices — caused by the growing world demand for energy, wars in the Middle East, and last year's hurricanes — and concerns
about the adverse environmental
effects, particularly
greenhouse gas emissions, of using conventional fossil energy.
The nation's current energy portfolio has raised concerns
about the adverse environmental
effects of energy generation — particularly
greenhouse gas emissions from coal - fired and oil - fired power plants and the long - term storage of spent nuclear fuel.
On the other hand, despite the overwhelming evidence that global warming will transform the Earth's climate for centuries, with fearful consequences for human health and wellbeing (not to mention the survival of many species and ecosystems), the world can not agree to significant reductions in
greenhouse gas emissions because of concerns
about the
effects on economic growth.
In the scorching summer of 1988, when global warming first hit headlines in a significant way, presidential candidate George H.W. Bush used a Michigan speech to pledge meaningful action curbing heat - trapping
greenhouse gases, saying, «Those who think we are powerless to do anything
about the
greenhouse effect forget
about the White House
effect.»
Looking in a textbook
about atmospheric physics, meteorology or climate physics it is getting quite clear that atmospheres are more complex then just reducing their thermal structure on the
effects of solar radiation and
greenhouse gases alone.
While the
greenhouse gas footprint of the production of other foods, compared to sources such as livestock, is highly dependent on a number of factors, production of livestock currently accounts for
about 30 % of the U.S. total emissions of methane.316, 320,325,326 This amount of methane can be reduced somewhat by recovery methods such as the use of biogas digesters, but future changes in dietary practices, including those motivated by considerations other than climate change mitigation, could also have an
effect on the amount of methane emitted to the atmosphere.327
The trend in
greenhouse gas forcing is
about 0.045 W / m ^ 2 / year — a small
effect adding incrementally to heat in the atmosphere.
The latest research suggests that it amounts to
about 4 percent of the «radiative forcing,» which is the fancy term scientists use to talk
about the overall warming
effects of
greenhouse gases.
The history of climate change goes back much further: in the 19th century, physicists theorised
about the role of
greenhouse gases, chiefly carbon dioxide, in the atmosphere, and several suggested that the warming
effect would increase alongside the levels of these
gases in the atmosphere.
While changes in solar output have slightly increased global average temperature since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution, the planet - warming
effect of man - made
greenhouse gases is
about 20 times larger -LRB-
Since the temperature increase dates from the beginning of the industrial age and the warming apparently accelerates as
greenhouse gasses accumulate in the atmosphere (picture below this), it is used as strong evidence of cause and
effect and projected into the future (which I'll write
about later).
Now, if there is any kind of
greenhouse effect caused
greenhouse gas, the strongest affect should occur
about 1 meter or less above the ocean, mainly at night.
Since the
greenhouse effect is all
about how energy escapes from the atmosphere to space, CO2 and other well - mixed
greenhouse gases have more «leverage», so to speak, than does water.
Yet its absorptive tholin stratosphere interrupts so much solar energy that Titan's final surface temperature suffers from what is called an «anti-
greenhouse effect» — ironically brought
about by «
greenhouse gases».
Or I could say,
greenhouse effect theory should be
about a «
greenhouse liquid» rather than all the focus of
greenhouse gases.
If you're going to argue with them
about gravity you need to first point out they don't have any, because they have created an entirely imaginary world for their
Greenhouse Effect of imaginary molecules without the real
gas properties which make real
gases subject to gravity.
And what exactly would be changed, if the public were educated
about aerosols and
greenhouse gases and temperature histories and the fact that at least 50 % of the 0.5 - 0.9 C change compared to 200 years ago is with 90 to 99 % likelihood due to the net
effect of anthropogenic factors?
Raising the alarm
about climate change has been tried before, many times in fact, but it has not had an appreciable
effect on
greenhouse gas emissions.
Earth's
Greenhouse Effect is described as all about radiant effects: Wiki: «The greenhouse effect is a process by which thermal radiation from a planetary surface is absorbed by atmospheric greenhouse gases, and is re-radiated in all d
Greenhouse Effect is described as all about radiant effects: Wiki: «The greenhouse effect is a process by which thermal radiation from a planetary surface is absorbed by atmospheric greenhouse gases, and is re-radiated in all direc
Effect is described as all
about radiant
effects: Wiki: «The
greenhouse effect is a process by which thermal radiation from a planetary surface is absorbed by atmospheric greenhouse gases, and is re-radiated in all d
greenhouse effect is a process by which thermal radiation from a planetary surface is absorbed by atmospheric greenhouse gases, and is re-radiated in all direc
effect is a process by which thermal radiation from a planetary surface is absorbed by atmospheric
greenhouse gases, and is re-radiated in all d
greenhouse gases, and is re-radiated in all directions.
While CO2 is indeed a
greenhouse gas, increasing concentrations of which may be expected to have (other things being equal) a warming
effect, scientists disagree
about how large that
effect may be (this is particularly affected by ignorance of the
effect of clouds).
Greenhouse gas externalities will not be fully priced in for decades, especially for costs imposed on areas outside of the country where the
gases are produced (why should we care
about those
effects?)
Wouldn't that be more interesting than getting people — who are quite frankly in denial and in the minority — to argue against scientists
about whether the
greenhouse gas effect is even true?
It asserts that manmade
greenhouse gases do not play a «substantial role» in climate change and that previous reports
about the
effects of global warming overestimated the situation and «failed to incorporate chemical and biological processes, which are as important as the physical ones.»
I was speaking sloppily
about one factor of a trinity consisting of differential heating (
greenhouse effect), convection and other mechanisms for heat transfer, and gravity that together make a self consistent troposphere that tops out roughly where the
greenhouse gases become transparent and
greenhouse cooling of the upper troposphere goes away.