In the comments it was pointed out that I talked
about vanity presses, self - publishing, and the Big Howevermany publishers as options, but not small presses.
A couple of months ago I wrote a post
about vanity presses: those publishers that are in business specifically to take advantage of authors rather than make money by selling books.
Lynne: Let's talk
about vanity presses for a minute.
We will educate
you about vanity presses, contracts, royalties, ISBN numbers, copyright, book design, editing, selling, and the different book genres we have printed.
Thank you for putting in that warning
about vanity presses.
You have probably heard
about vanity press, that publish your book and make you order hundreds of copies.
Thought I'd mention that David Gaughran wrote a post
about vanity press predators this week (as he's been wont to do lately).
Not exact matches
If you are going to be an independent or small publisher, if you are going to take on the time, expense and trouble of publishing your own book instead of letting a
vanity press do it for you, you need to know the following
about the name of your endeavor:
What gets me with this comment is the misconception the commenter has
about just what self - published authors are and what
vanity presses are.
These companies actually do little more than the old - time
vanity presses; you have to think twice
about what that will do to your credibility as a writer.
Adsett told Weekly Book Newsletter (WBN) that the aspects of the contract she was most concerned
about were not replicated in commercial publishing contracts or in «common
vanity press contracts».
I had just begun reading
about what they are and the services they provide and was struggling to really find the line that separates these services from self - publishing /
vanity press types of situations.
I thought
about taking them up on this offer when I was in my first few issues of the series, but it on further thought, it seemed more like a
vanity press option.
A Note
about the Brand Name: If you see a big name traditional publisher tied to a
vanity press, here's what you need to know: it's still a
vanity press if you're paying for their services or their books or to be published.
(What
about the publisher owned
vanity presses?)
The overwhelming majority of the people that I run into who have any experience with one of these
vanity presses not only know nothing
about how publishing works, but need to be completely «deprogrammed» and made to start all over or it just doesn't work.
4 years ago people were curious
about publishing, but scared by all the bad - mouthing they read in Writers Digest (funded largely by
vanity presses) and by online wannabes.
Thank you for the info Vinny, now I think I see, You'd like a blog
about marketing from lil» ol' me, Promote only when you are in a happy mood, And never promote your books by being far too rude, Try to make your posts interesting, clever and funny, And try not to part with a large amount of money, Now I feel there is one thing I should stress, Never go and give your cash to a
vanity press, Blog, tweet and update your Facebook status as often as you can, Make contact with other authors and befriend your only fan, Be courteous, considerate and always be kind, And you will slowly find, You'll get people interested and make them all see, Especially when you give your book away for free, Sit back, relax and be rather nice, And always think
about the price, People will not part with their cash unless the price is low, Particularly for an author they do not even know, Always remember to write purely for fun, Never think that your profit will be a huge great sum, And pray for exposure to the lord above, Because self - publishing is a labour of love,
Dan set
about to legitimatize self - publishers, to encourage authors away from
vanity presses, and to be brave and publish themselves.
David Graughan's blog is on industry news, helpful post in book promotion, and frequently
about avoiding
vanity presses that don't offer a good value for your money like the one owned and used by a number of the big 5 (author solutions).
Writers» conferences provide ideal environments for learning
about the various modes of publishing: the traditional model of the big publishing house, self publishing, independent
presses,
vanity presses, and the new «hybrid» author - publisher partnership model, which offers much higher royalties and transparency
about the process for writers.
Being the babe in the woods I was at the time, I got
about 30 to 40 copies published through a local «
vanity press,» which cost me
about $ 80 at the time.
Just like the politician says almost anything to get you to vote for them, the
vanity press will say just
about anything to get you to give them your credit card, and their promises are just as empty.
What is even scarier is that most of the trade media is so dependent on these
vanity presses for advertising that they will never say anything bad
about them.
Just as a recent HuffPo piece trashing self - published authors and their works has demonstrated, it seems that everything
about the industry is working towards a backwards slide to the days when
vanity press authors desperately struggled for acceptance.
Next week I'll be talking
about how NOT to self - publish: one of the biggies is learning who are the
vanity presses and who are legit self - publishing facilitators.
Posted by Victoria Strauss for Writer BewareLast November, I wrote a post
about deadbeat
vanity publisher 2 Moon
Press, which closed its doors in May 2013 amid competing claims of wrongdoing by its former and current owners.
- The Writer Beware website, which provides warnings
about common schemes, scams, and pitfalls (there are sections on literary agents,
vanity publishers,
vanity anthologies, small
presses, independent editors, contests, self - publishing, writers» services, and copyright, as well as a page of writers» alerts, a series of case studies of defunct scams, and our famous Thumbs Down Agent and Publisher Lists), advice on how to avoid them, and links to helpful online resources.
We proceeded to have a lengthy discussion
about the differences between
vanity presses and independent publishing.
When you retain a
vanity press, you give up control of the finished product and let the
press make all the decisions
about the publishing process.
Brent: There are true «
vanity»
presses that blow wind up your skirt
about how great your book is and then ask you to pay $ 10,000 dollars or more to publish it.
I've posted an article on the Ninc blog
about the crucial differences between commercial publishing, «self - publishing,» and
vanity press.
Indie Book Publishing — No Longer
about Vanity, one of the beak - out sessions given by the VP of Marketing from the largest
vanity press in the country, says it all.
These are forums and / or blogs where folks ask questions and provide information
about their various experiences with some of the different
vanity presses, co-publishing companies, publishers and literary agents.
However, the two raised some interesting points in the interview
about how they have taken that format and adapted it to today's market with things like low order requirements (as little as fifty, compared to hundreds of copies through older
vanity presses), the ability to return unsold titles for a refund, and more.
Most small
presses or publishing houses are
vanity presses — which means they will publish just
about anything.
Whether you are a reader thinking
about writing a book, a writer ready to get paid for writing, a self - published author, traditionally published author, Print on Demand author (CreateSpace / IngramSpark), an author published through a
vanity press / publishing assistance company, or a hybrid author (a combination of any of the above), the Path To Publishing «Act Like an Author, Think Like a Business» 2018 Conference being held September 20 - 22, 2018 in the STILL fabulous Las Vegas, Nevada is for you!
Tim Davies, blogging for The Bookseller's Futurebook blog, posted an interesting albeit somewhat one - sided opinion piece
about Author Solutions, the large
vanity press that is now part of Penguin... [Read more...]
John — thanks for the suggestion I will add something on
vanity presses once I get the chance
about them.
I have blogged often
about the rampant conflicts - of - interest at WD and how they have become a shill for the
vanity press industry.
Most people have to pay
vanity presses to have their books published in print, and there are no guarantees
about the quality of the books, both in terms of content or production.
It's not
about whether someone chooses to self - publish or go
vanity press.
It was overpriced and problem - plagued, but unlike most
vanity presses, it was open
about its fees and service, and didn't make claims of selectivity.
Whenever I hear
about authors being taken advantage of, it seems the blame is placed on the «unsavory» companies or
vanity presses lurking to make a buck off of the self - published / indie authors.
However, either the majority of self - publishers didn't read the fine print in the deals they were offered by
vanity presses or they had little understanding
about how
vanity publishing worked.
Every time you see a media story
about Author Solutions, and they don't mention anything
about it being an awful
vanity press, hit them in the comments.
When they see your
vanity press effort sold
about a dozen copies, they won't touch your book.
Last time, I talked a bit
about what a
vanity press is, and I began to discuss some of the aspects of a
vanity press that I'm calling XYZ publishing and an author named Bob who is
about to fall into their clutches.
Something to think
about when you see major publishers starting
vanity press divisions.
FACT: The small
press, indie or independent publisher IS NOT THE SAME as self - publishing... which is what
vanity press is all
about.