However, there a couple of recent discussions on the accuracy of climate model feedbacks on the credibility of model assumptions and on ability of models to
accurately model past known climate change on Anthony Watts» blog that I think are pertinent to this debate and interesting:
Not exact matches
Despite these flaws, global
models are increasingly credible: when fed the factors at play in climate over the
past 100 years, they
accurately match what has been observed to occur.
«Once these
models can predict
past changes, they can more
accurately predict what will happen with future climate changes.»
Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory researchers Priyadip Ray (left) and Brenden Petersen and their teams, using machine learning algorithms, have developed computer
models that can more
accurately characterize a patient's progression through stages of sepsis and better predict mortality risk by integrating
past medical history, real - time vital signs and other diagnostics.
The
models used to predict future global warming can
accurately map
past climate changes.
The first explains how those climate
models showing the darkest future, can most
accurately show the
past 25 years as well.
It can simply serve as a gatekeeper for rating teaching practice; maybe more
accurately than
past evaluation
models, but no better in actually developing one's capacity to teach more effectively.
Here are some possible choices — in order of increasing sophistication: * All (or most) scientists agree (the principal Gore argument) * The 20th century is the warmest in 1000 years (the «hockeystick» argument) * Glaciers are melting, sea ice is shrinking, polar bears are in danger, etc * Correlation — both CO2 and temperature are increasing * Sea levels are rising *
Models using both natural and human forcing
accurately reproduce the detailed behavior of 20th century global temperature *
Modeled and observed PATTERNS of temperature trends («fingerprints») of the
past 30 years agree
If the number of inputs is many, then the
model can be tweaked easily to match
past data without giving us much confidence that the future is
accurately predicted.
«Can the
models accurately explain the climate from the recent
past?
Climate
models have
accurately reproduced the
past, but let's put them aside for a moment.
«Here we have something more fundamental: Can the
models accurately explain the climate from the recent
past?
For example, Kosaka and Xie showed than when the El Niño - related changes in Pacific ocean temperature are entered into a
model, it not only reproduced the global surface warming over the
past 15 years but it also
accurately reproduced regional and seasonal changes in surface temperatures.
More often,
models have been tested by hindcasting — they are forced with a known change starting at a
past known climate state, and asked whether they can
accurately project the output (e.g., a temperature change resulting from a change in CO2, solar forcing, etc.)?
You'll need to be okay with not understanding why CO2 lags temperature, why its predicted effects do not match observed climate measurements, or why the IPCC's general circulation
models can not predict short - term, regional, or even
past climate changes
accurately.
Then the authors use the observed, or more
accurately described «reconstructed,» flux anomalies over the Arctic for the
past three decades to force a forward ocean
model.
The usual snake oil salesmen then came up with various experts / studies that tried to make the unbelievable believable: IPCC climate
models accurately reflect
past and current temperature trends.
The
models used to predict future global warming can
accurately map
past climate changes.
2) CAGW movement type
models never reconstruct any lengthy
past history
accurately without creative and unique adjustment of aerosol values used as a fudge factor; that is why
models of widely varying sensitivities supposedly all
accurately reconstruct the
past (different made - up assumed historical values used for each) but fail in future prediction, like they didn't predict how global average temperatures have been flat to declining over the
past 15 years.
I had a Warmist insist that when you feed in all the data the
models accurately reconstruct the
past.
These changes in tropical Pacific Ocean SSTs over the
past millennium have often been associated with internal variability of the ocean - atmosphere system [19,27,53,54] that may not be
accurately represented in current climate
models.
Climate Change Reconsidered explains why climate
models fail to
accurately describe climate conditions, forcings, and feedbacks (Chapter 1) and how their forecast have failed to predict the lack of warming during the
past 16 years (Chapter 4).
To check whether the climate
model accurately responds to solar forcing, global temperature was
modelled over
past periods of Grand Minima such as the Maunder and Dalton Minima.
A «science» based on computer
models that can't even
accurately «predict» known climate conditions from the
past, but we can be sure that they can
accurately predict unknown climate conditions a hundred years in the future.
A: Climate
models are tested against what we know happened in the
past and they do
accurately map
past climate changes.
The historic period was also analysed, and the results showed that the
models can
accurately reproduce the observed rise in monthly heat extremes over the
past 50 years.
To be predictive, any
model of future climate should also
accurately model known climate and greenhouse gas variations recorded in the geologic history of the
past 200,000 years.
Over the
past 10 years, however, an alternative school of thought has emerged: that detailed microphysics need not be included in
models in order to
accurately simulate tropical tropospheric humidity.
Given the reliance on
models surely no
model can be validated or verified unless it can reproduce
past events
accurately?
Given information from
past automobile accidents, auto insurance companies can
accurately model losses from future accidents using only the age and gender of a large group of drivers.
Alarmists continue to proclaim that their
models project a rapid acceleration of sea level rise over the next 30 to 70 years, when those same
models have failed to even come close to
accurately measuring the
past 25 years.
How is it possible that a
model that
accurately represents the
past fails to
accurately predict the future?
There are two major questions in climate
modeling - can they
accurately reproduce the
past (hindcasting) and can they successfully predict the future?