That scenario avoids the problem of imbalance inherent in AGW theory, keeps PV = nRT in balance and explains why any extra energy absorbed by GHGs is no longer available to
affect equilibrium temperature.
Jim, the bottom line for me is that for the earth to be in radiative thermal equiibrium with the sun, it has not been demonstrated that any change in chemical composition of the earth or atmosphere is able to
affect the equilibrium temperature, providing this does not change albedo.
So, on those grounds, more GHGs could not
affect equilibrium temperature because they provoke an equal and opposite system response to any effect they might have on the transfer of energy through the planetary system.
The solar heating
affects the equilibrium temperature profile of the stratosphere.
Not exact matches
However, there is an additional shortcoming due to the fact that the
equilibrium temperature is also
affected by the ratio of the Earth's geometrical cross-section to its surface area as well as how much is reflected, the planetary albedo (A).
All else equal, if CO2 goes up, it
affects that balance, and
temperature increases until a new
equilibrium is reached (which takes a long time as the ocean is a big heat sink).
In the case of removing all greenhouse agents, there is no
temperature profile feedback to the surface
temperature change, because after all greenhouse agents are removed, the vertical
temperature profile, while it will respond to the change, will not
affect the
equilibrium surface
temperature.
(PS a skin
temperature can be lower than the brightness
temperature of the OLR because a very thin layer at the top of the atmosphere will absorb a tiny fraction of OLR, thus barely
affecting OLR, but must in
equilibrium emit that same amount of energy both upwards and downwards; if it were as warm as the brightness
temperature of the OLR then it would emit twice what it absorbs and thus cool.
The skin layer planet is optically very thin, so it doesn't
affect the OLR significantly, but (absent direct solar heating) the little bit of the radiant flux (approximatly equal to the OLR) from below that it absorbs must be (at
equilibrium) balanced by emission, which will be both downward and upward, so the flux emitted in either direction is only half of what was absorbed from below; via Kirchhoff's Law, the
temperature must be smaller than the brightness
temperature of the OLR (for a grey gas, Tskin ^ 4 ~ = (Te ^ 4) / 2, where Te is the effective radiating
temperature for the planet, equal to the brightness
temperature of the OLR — *** HOWEVER, see below ***).
re inline comment on 24, What I noted was that the ocean skin
equilibrium referenced in RC 5 Sept 06 could be influenced by variations in ocean currents and the cryosphere to
affect atmospheric
temperature on the scale of decades.
Aaron Lewis @ 24 — «What I noted was that the ocean skin
equilibrium referenced in RC 5 Sept 06 could be influenced by variations in ocean currents and the cryosphere to
affect atmospheric
temperature on the scale of decades»
The only things that can change that resultant point of
temperature equilibrium are changes in solar radiance coming in or changes in overall atmospheric density which
affect the radiant energy going out.
The only things that can change that resultant point of
temperature equilibrium significantly are changes in solar radiance coming in and changes in overall atmospheric density (a function of mass and pressure) which
affect the radiant energy going out or a change in the speed of the water cycle which, because of the unique characteristics of the phase changes of water altering the speed of energy flow through the system is capable of exerting a powerful regulatory effect.
The things that I say can
affect the long term
equilibrium are things that
affect the rate of cloud formation, as that is the main control on excess
temperature.
willb, further, heat plus radiation is net from the ocean, but what CO2
affects is the downward IR, which offsets part of that net, and results in a higher
equilibrium ocean
temperature.
For these conditions, when radiation - rate -
equilibrium is reached for the «two - shell system» (i.e., when the rate of energy being radiated outward by the outer shell equals the rate of energy being generated in the wall of the inner shell, I believe the presence of body «A» will
affect the
temperature of the external surface of the inner shell.
Given that the blackbody
equilibrium temperature of earth as seen from space is a function of solar irradiance arriving and earth albedo and not much of anything else apart from factors that change those two, anyone claiming earth's
temperature isn't
affected by solar output better have a pretty good theory and data to support that.
There was — according to ice cores — a dynamic
equilibrium in atmospheric CO2, only
affected by
temperature variations.
This may produce «pauses» in the
temperature record, but does not appreciably
affect the long - term
equilibrium temperature of the climate system
ii) Changes in the air alone can not
affect the global
equilibrium temperature because of oceanic dominance that always seeks to maintain sea surface and surface air
equilibrium whatever the air tries to do.