Positive
albedo feedbacks from melting ice and reducing cloud cover would be important to consider if this data is trustworthy.
Based on evidence from Earth's history, we suggest here that the relevant form of climate sensitivity in the Anthropocene (e.g. from which to base future greenhouse gas (GHG) stabilization targets) is the Earth system sensitivity including fast feedbacks from changes in water vapour, natural aerosols, clouds and sea ice, slower surface
albedo feedbacks from changes in continental ice sheets and vegetation, and climate — GHG feedbacks from changes in natural (land and ocean) carbon sinks.
The time constants of
albedo feedback from melting N America snow cover are shorter than the
albedo feedback from melting Arctic sea ice, and the sea ice is changing response as its average thickness decreases, and the ratios of 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 year ice area changes.
Not exact matches
«As warming continues, the
feedback from declining
albedo will add up,» Tedesco said.
Another positive
feedback of global warming is the
albedo effect: less white summer ice means more dark open water, which absorbs more heat
from the sun.
Also about the ice -
albedo feedback within 1K temperature oscillation the
albedo will change of, let us say, 10 %, so for an increase of 1K the
albedo will decrease
from A = 0.3 to A = 0.27.
That's pretty alarming, especially when considered in the context of other positive
feedbacks including changes in
albedo from melting icecaps and release of carbon and methane
from thawing permafrost.
So it currently includes a [positive] contribution
from the ice -
albedo feedback, because our current climate possesses sea - ice that will be melted by a modest increase in temperatures.
He then uses what information is available to quantify (in Watts per square meter) what radiative terms drive that temperature change (for the LGM this is primarily increased surface
albedo from more ice / snow cover, and also changes in greenhouse gases... the former is treated as a forcing, not a
feedback; also, the orbital variations which technically drive the process are rather small in the global mean).
For starters, one simply can not equate the positive
feedback effect of melting ice (both reduced
albedo and increased water vapor)
from that of leaving maximum ice to that of minimum ice where the climate is now (and is during every interglacial period).
Plotting GHG forcing (7)
from ice core data (27) against temperature shows that global climate sensitivity including the slow surface
albedo feedback is 1.5 °C per W / m2 or 6 °C for doubled CO2 (Fig. 2), twice as large as the Charney fast -
feedback sensitivity.»
[1] CO2 absorbs IR, is the main GHG, human emissions are increasing its concentration in the atmosphere, raising temperatures globally; the second GHG, water vapor, exists in equilibrium with water / ice, would precipitate out if not for the CO2, so acts as a
feedback; since the oceans cover so much of the planet, water is a large positive
feedback; melting snow and ice as the atmosphere warms decreases
albedo, another positive
feedback, biased toward the poles, which gives larger polar warming than the global average; decreasing the temperature gradient
from the equator to the poles is reducing the driving forces for the jetstream; the jetstream's meanders are increasing in amplitude and slowing, just like the lower Missippi River where its driving gradient decreases; the larger slower meanders increase the amplitude and duration of blocking highs, increasing drought and extreme temperatures — and 30,000 + Europeans and 5,000 plus Russians die, and the US corn crop, Russian wheat crop, and Aussie wildland fire protection fails — or extreme rainfall floods the US, France, Pakistan, Thailand (driving up prices for disk drives — hows that for unexpected adverse impacts
from AGW?)
eg how big is the «expected» impact on the climate / temps etc
from that kind of change /
feedback in ASI
albedo
«By comparing the response of clouds and water vapor to ENSO forcing in nature with that in AMIP simulations by some leading climate models, an earlier evaluation of tropical cloud and water vapor
feedbacks has revealed two common biases in the models: (1) an underestimate of the strength of the negative cloud
albedo feedback and (2) an overestimate of the positive
feedback from the greenhouse effect of water vapor.
This positive climate
feedback is greater than expected
from the additional forcing alone, due to amplification by reduced surface
albedo through melting of continental snow and decreased sea - ice coverage, especially in the wintertime.
, (3) changes in surface
albedo of snow & ice due to changes in temperature and deposition of mineral and black carbon particulates, and last, but arguably most significantly (4) the intensity of the positive
feedback that comes
from the inevitable -LRB-?)
Analysis of observed declines in sea ice and snow coverage
from 1979 to 2008 suggests that the NH
albedo feedback is between 0.3 and 1.1 W m — 2 °C — 1 (Flanner et al., 2011).
It's the same series of an initial forcing (change in insolation due to Milankovitch orbital cycles) being amplified by reinforcing
feedbacks (change in
albedo, change in temperature and partial pressure regulating both CO2 and H2O), but in reverse
from an exit
from a glacial period.
The cooling (that results
from the change in
albedo) necessarily reduces the amount of H2O in the atmosphere, which is a positive
feedback that further cools the planet.
A typo in mine at # 25 is where 40,000 m3 should read 400,000 m3, and an addendum is the reference for the forcing
from the
Albedo Loss feedback shown in the satellite record: «Observational determination of albedo decrease caused by vanishing Arctic sea ice» See: http://eisenman.ucsd.edu/publications/Pistone-Eisenman-Ramanathan-20
Albedo Loss
feedback shown in the satellite record: «Observational determination of
albedo decrease caused by vanishing Arctic sea ice» See: http://eisenman.ucsd.edu/publications/Pistone-Eisenman-Ramanathan-20
albedo decrease caused by vanishing Arctic sea ice» See: http://eisenman.ucsd.edu/publications/Pistone-Eisenman-Ramanathan-2014.pdf
Re 9 wili — I know of a paper suggesting, as I recall, that enhanced «backradiation» (downward radiation reaching the surface emitted by the air / clouds) contributed more to Arctic amplification specifically in the cold part of the year (just to be clear, backradiation should generally increase with any warming (aside
from greenhouse
feedbacks) and more so with a warming due to an increase in the greenhouse effect (including
feedbacks like water vapor and, if positive, clouds, though regional changes in water vapor and clouds can go against the global trend); otherwise it was always my understanding that the
albedo feedback was key (while sea ice decreases so far have been more a summer phenomenon (when it would be warmer to begin with), the heat capacity of the sea prevents much temperature response, but there is a greater build up of heat
from the
albedo feedback, and this is released in the cold part of the year when ice forms later or would have formed or would have been thicker; the seasonal effect of reduced winter snow cover decreasing at those latitudes which still recieve sunlight in the winter would not be so delayed).
You can substitute «CO2
from the oceans», «lower
albedo», or any of the other positive
feedbacks for water vapor.
If CO2 in the Anthropocene atmosphere contributes to re-vegetating currently arid areas as it did post-LGM, we should expect an even greater warming
feedback from CO2 than is assumed
from water vapor and
albedo feedbacks, due to decreased global dust - induced
albedo and increased water vapor
from transpiration over increased vegetated area.
Clouds are a negative
feedback that follow
from the increasing positive
albedo feedback.
The water vapor, lapse - rate and ice -
albedo feedbacks in isolation enhance the global warming that would result
from increasing CO2 concentrations alone to around +2.2 °C.
Ok Monty: glacial interglacial transitions result
from earth orbit changes combined with ice
albedo feedbacks.
Earth system and carbon - cycle
feedbacks such as the release of carbon
from thawing permafrost or vegetation changes affecting terrestrial carbon storage or
albedo may further extend and possibly amplify warming (6).
Cloud variations are obviously an important element on a global scale, but the effects of Arctic ice melting are important locally and also a non-trivial fraction of global
albedo feedbacks, which are a contributor to total
feedback that is smaller than those
from water vapor and probably
from cloud
feedbacks, but not insignificant.
A substantial reduction in water vapor (shown below,
from Lacis et al (2010) as well as increase in the surface
albedo are important
feedbacks here, showing that removing the non-condensing greenhouse gases (mostly CO2) in the atmosphere can collapse nearly the entire terrestrial greenhouse effect.
For example, the absence
from AR5 of last January's Ramanathan paper indicating a large and very significant
Albedo Loss
feedback forcing can not be rectified until about 2019 under the current system of periodic IPCC reports advising the UNFCCC as to the climate predicament.
However, I am not a «warmista» by any means — we do not know how to properly quantify the
albedo of aerosols, including clouds, with their consequent negative
feedback effects in any of the climate sensitivity models as yet — and all models in the ensemble used by the «warmistas» are indicating the sensitivities (to atmospheric CO2 increase) are too high, by factors ranging
from 2 to 4: which could indicate that climate sensitivity to a doubling of current CO2 concentrations will be of the order of 1 degree C or less outside the equatorial regions (none or very little in the equatorial regions)- i.e. an outcome which will likely be beneficial to all of us.
One of the main
feedbacks is
from changes in the Earth's
albedo.
The forcing is really a net
albedo forcing
from the varying ice extent, and the
albedo has a positive
feedback effect both on itself and with CO2 / H2O as the earth cools into an Ice Age.
So the level of ice
albedo feedback was radically different
from the modern period during the MWP?
Albedo is REFLECTIVITY, it is ONE aspect of several
feedbacks which result
from more open water.
AGW climate scientists seem to ignore that while the earth's surface may be warming, our atmosphere above 10,000 ft. above MSL is a refrigerator that can take water vapor scavenged
from the vast oceans on earth (which are also a formidable heat sink), lift it to cold zones in the atmosphere by convective physical processes, chill it (removing vast amounts of heat
from the atmosphere) or freeze it, (removing even more vast amounts of heat
from the atmosphere) drop it on land and oceans as rain, sleet or snow, moisturizing and cooling the soil, cooling the oceans and building polar ice caps and even more importantly, increasing the
albedo of the earth, with a critical negative
feedback determining how much of the sun's energy is reflected back into space, changing the moment of inertia of the earth by removing water mass
from equatorial latitudes and transporting this water vapor mass to the poles, reducing the earth's spin axis moment of inertia and speeding up its spin rate, etc..
To date, while various effects and
feedbacks constrain the certainty placed on recent and projected climate change (EG,
albedo change, the response of water vapour, various future emissions scenarios etc), it is virtually certain that CO2 increases
from human industry have reversed and will continue to reverse the downward trend in global temperatures that should be expected in the current phase of the Milankovitch cycle.
1 Positive 1.1 Carbon cycle
feedbacks 1.1.1 Arctic methane release 1.1.1.1 Methane release
from melting permafrost peat bogs 1.1.1.2 Methane release
from hydrates 1.1.2 Abrupt increases in atmospheric methane 1.1.3 Decomposition 1.1.4 Peat decomposition 1.1.5 Rainforest drying 1.1.6 Forest fires 1.1.7 Desertification 1.1.8 CO2 in the oceans 1.1.9 Modelling results 1.1.9.1 Implications for climate policy 1.2 Cloud
feedback 1.3 Gas release 1.4 Ice -
albedo feedback 1.5 Water vapor
feedback 2 Negative 2.1 Carbon cycle 2.1.1 Le Chatelier's principle 2.1.2 Chemical weathering 2.1.3 Net Primary Productivity 2.2 Lapse rate 2.3 Blackbody radiation
BUT, other important / related parameters — BRDF (bidirectional reflectance distribution function)--
albedo i. /: 00 solar local time Neural network based on CYCLOPES and MODIS / wrong ALSO Need to make assumptions about carbon lost via respiration to go
from GPP to / Cox et al. (2000) Acceleration of global warming due to carbon - cycle
feedbacks in a coupled / / JRC / FastOpt: http://www.fastopt.com/topics/publications.htmlhttp://www.fastopt.com/topics/publications.html 50 0 = water; 1 /
They also warn that
feedback patterns are starting to emerge in the shape of the ice
albedo effect: ice reflects heat away
from the surface, so as it decreases in extent so warming quickens.
While we are probably some distance
from inducing a Venus event (though there are some biogeochemists who think this is possible) the evidence is still that with the «let the market rule» approach, CO2 will continue to accumulate in the and eventually set off even worse positive
feedback cycles than this years Arctic ice melt — methane and CO2 release
from the tundra soils, destabilisation of methane hydrates, increased
albedo in both the Arctic and Antarctic.
The net effect is a greater (reflecting)
albedo, less sunlight reaching the surface, and therefore a negative
feedback that reduces the original warming
from increasing CO2.
A slight change of ocean temperature (after a delay caused by the high specific heat of water, the annual mixing of thermocline waters with deeper waters in storms) ensures that rising CO2 reduces infrared absorbing H2O vapour while slightly increasing cloud cover (thus Earth's
albedo), as evidenced by the fact that the NOAA data
from 1948 - 2008 shows a fall in global humidity (not the positive
feedback rise presumed by NASA's models!)
``... underestimating the negative
feedback from cloud
albedo and overestimating the positive
feedback from the greenhouse effect of water vapor over the tropical Pacific during ENSO is a prevalent problem of climate models.
(Note, however, that to the extent that positive cloud
feedbacks on GHG - mediated forcing mediate a reduction in cloud cover, the amplification will substitute some SW effects for LW effects due to the reduced cloud greenhouse warming and increased warming
from a lower
albedo).
A CO2 pulse in the atmosphere will take centuries to finally return to original levels, and that is completely ignoring any potential
feedbacks from other parts of the system (ie temperatures raised for centuries could result in massve methane releases and loss of signficant low
albedo ice sheets etc.) The experiments I am aware of that show improved plant growth in elevated CO2 levels require that all additional biological needs are amply provided for.
Even that, however, is misleading for a substantial part of the «forcing»
from seasonal drift in insolation is part of the ice
albedo feedback.
In all of these simple models, we assume the atmosphere to have a volume as fixed as a bathtub, we assume that the atmosphere / ocean system is a closed system, we assume that the incoming radiation
from the Sun is constant, we assume no turbulence, we assume no viscosity, we assume radiative equilibrium with no
feedback lag, we take no account of water vapor flux assuming it to be constant, no change in
albedo from changes in land use, glacier lengthening and shortening, no volcanic eruptions, no
feedbacks from vegetation.
There are, however, also slow
feedbacks like the change in surface
albedo from the reduction of snow cover that contribute to TCS / ECS.
there is powerful negative
feedback to temperature through ice
albedo from snow.