So long
as animal sacrifice, interpreted in such terms, was the major method of approaching deity, it is clear that worshipers could not conceive an approach so simple and spiritual as solitary praying to the «Father who seeth in secret.»
Then there are plenty of non-violent zingers such
as your animal sacrifices must have no imperfections.
God - ordained circumcision was in the same category
as animal sacrifices (another symbolic tradition with blood that found its fulfillment in Jesus).»
Not exact matches
Talking snakes, talking donkeys, a boat at sea for half a year with a couple million
animals, a temple less than 5000sq feet taking 150,000 workers and 7 years to complete, and then
sacrificing 14
animals a minute for 7 days straight, a virgin birth story (like there weren't already a few of them before), a zombie invasion that no third party seemed to witness, a dude living in the belly of a fish for a couple days, a guys last words (before become back
as a zombie) being «My god, my god, why hast thou forsaken me.»
Hajj is very busy event where about 3 million people in remembrance of prophet Ibrahim (a.k.a. Abraham) and his wife
as ordered by God running between 2 mountains,
sacrificing animals on 10th day, stoning symbolic satan who tried to deceive Ibrahim.
As for Justice Stevens himself, it is an arresting fact that in the
animal sacrifice case he joined the opinion announcing the constitutional requirement that public officials disassociate themselves from antireligious measures.
After all,
as the rather grisly specifics of the practice of
animal sacrifice suggest, it would require a rather unnatural detachment for the members of the Court not to disapprove of any of the variety of religious beliefs or practices that they encounter in the cases they must decide.
So in the (not so distant) future look for him to do
animal sacrifices in his yard, beat / kill his kids when they mouth off, torch his neighborhood when he realizes he lives next to people that don't believe
as he does, own and beat his slaves, and we won't even discuss how he'll treat his wives.
So,
as I asked someone else today, is it moral to
sacrifice an
animal to God today?
Doesn't the God of the Old Testament (who is exactly the same
as the God of the New Testament) demand
animal sacrifices and commits mass murder (the Flood)?
By the facial reactions around the room, you'd have thought Sara might
as well have asked them if they
sacrificed animals.
That those
animal sacrifices were to learn of what was to happen when God would make that
sacrifice and that that is why there is communion today
as a means to remember the
sacrifice God's beloved son had made.
It makes sense why an
animal had to die in place of a person
as a
sacrifice, it makes sense
as to why Our Lord have himself
as a
sacrifice for our sins and undeservedly took our punishment (which was a painful and humiliating death)(what a loving Lord we serve!)
There were
animal sacrifices and things such
as burnt offerings, grain offerings.
According to the Qur» an, Muslims are forbidden to eat a corpse, blood, pork, a pagan
sacrifice, suffocated
animals,
animals killed other than by slaughtering,
animals which died from a fall,
animals killed by other
animals, remnants of food eaten by a beast, food offered
as a
sacrifice to idols.
Then, because God had already shown them the «right» way, He pulled Cain up on his «non-blood» vegetable offering
as not doing what is «right»,
as it wasn't shedding the blood of an
animal (which was essentially a type and shadow of Christ's
sacrifice,
as well
as being the pattern already set by God in front of Adam and Eve in the Garden).
Interpenetrating the negative factors already mentioned was the practice of
animal sacrifice as the characteristic way of approaching God.
(Exodus 24:4 - 8) And always in the hinterland of
animal sacrifice lurked age - old ideas of the magical potency of blood
as a powerful agency of deliverance if rightly used (E.g., Exodus 12:12 - 13) and a supernatural peril if wrongly handled.
And beyond moral indignation at liturgical substitutes for goodness, the scorn which some prophetic passages pour on
animal sacrifices suggests intellectual contempt
as well.
A large area of historic Christian theology would have been completely altered if ideas of atonement, especially
as related to the blood of Christ, had not been carried over from primitive concepts associated with
animal sacrifice.
In the end,
animal sacrifice was altogether substituted for human
sacrifice, and this provision, represented
as a merciful evidence of Yahweh's grace, was made picturesque in the legendary story of Abraham and Isaac.
Ever wondered why he stopped killing rival tribes, just
as we did, stopped demanding
animal sacrifices just
as we did, stopped wanting the death penalty for many trivial things just
as we did and started accepting gays and other minorities just
as we did?
Certainly he told the people that the
sacrifices of
animals he offered were worthless in itself, and only valuable, if they would be considered
as a reminder for the future
sacrifice of the Son of God, the only
sacrifice which can take away sins.
The significance of the
sacrifices was to see our sinfulness and turn our hearts back to God and that is made clear with the death of Christ.The
animals though could not remove our sin that was only possible through Christ
as God he could remove sin in the past present and future
as he is outside of time and space not like us.So there sins in effect were covered by Jesus
as well in the old testament
as in the new by Gods we just did nt see it.The example of abraham able enoch they all were righteous they were justified before God.Enoch walked with God and was no more that sounds like the rapture to me so the holy spirit was present in that age just like us.We see that God has always been at work to bring life and to bring mankind to salvation.
Craig thanks for commenting the issue i have is that we are saved by faith and by the grace of God both in the old and the new.Not by the blood
sacrifices of
animals i am not saying they are not important
as they served an important role in the old testament.But even if cain had offered a lamb his
sacrifice would still not have been accepted because it wasnt given in faith but by works his heart wasnt right so his offering wasnt accepted.
It can encourage such protection inasmuch
as the
animal is seen
as having perhaps been a close and dear relative, and yet it can also discourage such protection inasmuch
as the
animal can be seen
as sacrificing itself for the sake of a better birth in the future, leading ultimately to an escape from rebirth altogether (Bowker, 6).
1 Corinthians 11:14 (Men should not have long hair) 1 Corinthians 14:34 - 35 (Women should remain silent in church) Deuteronomy 13:6 - 16 (Death penalty for Apostasy) Deuteronomy 20:10 - 14 (Attack city, kill all men, keep women, children
as spoils of war) Deuteronomy 21:18 - 21 (Death penalty for a rebellious son) Deuteronomy 22:19 - 25 (Kill non - virgin / kill adulterers / rapists) Ecclesiastes 1:18 (Knowledge is bad) Exodus 21:1 - 7 (Rules for buying slaves) Exodus 35:2 (Death for working on the Sabbath) Ezekiel 9:5 - 6 (Murder women / children) Genesis 1:3,4,5,11,12,16 (God creates light, night and day, plants grow, before creating sun) Genesis 3:16 (Man shall rule over woman) Jeremiah 19:9 (Cannibalism) John 3:18 (He who believes in Jesus is saved, he that doesn't is condemned) John 5:46 - 47 (Jesus references Old Testament) Leviticus 3:1 - 17 (Procedure for
animal sacrifice) Leviticus 19:19 (No mixed fabrics in clothing) Leviticus 19:27 (Don't trim hair or beard) Leviticus 19:28 (No tattoos) Leviticus 20:9 (Death for cursing father or mother) Leviticus 20:10 (Death for adultery) Leviticus 20:13 (Death for gay men) Leviticus 21:17 - 23 (Ugly people, lame, dwarfs, not welcome on altar) Leviticus 25:45 (Strangers can be bought
as slaves) Luke 12:33 (Sell your possessions, and give to the poor) Luke 14:26 (You must hate your family and yourself to follow Jesus) Mark 10:11 - 12 (Leaving your spouse for another is adultery) Mark 10:21 - 22 (Sell your possessions and give to the poor) Mark 10:24 - 25 (Next to impossible for rich to get into heaven) Mark 16:15 - 16 (Those who hear the gospel and don't believe go to hell) Matthew 5:17 - 19 (Jesus says he has come to enforce the laws of the Old Testament) Matthew 6:5 - 6 (Pray in secret) Matthew 6:18 (Fast for Lent in secret) Matthew 9:12 (The healthy don't need a doctor, the sick do) Matthew 10:34 - 37 (Jesus comes with sword, turns families against each other, those that love family more than him are not worthy) Matthew 12:30 (If you're not with Jesus, you're against him) Matthew 15:4 (Death for not honouring your father and mother) Matthew 22:29 (Jesus references Old Testament) Matthew 24:37 (Jesus references Old Testament) Numbers 14:18 (Following generations blamed for the sins of previous ones) Psalms 137:9 (Violence against children) Revelation 6:13 (The stars fell to earth like figs) Revelation 21:8 (Unbelievers, among others, go to hell) 1 Timothy 2:11 - 12 (Women subordinate and must remain silent) 1 Timothy 5:8 (If you don't provide for your family, you are an infidel)
Even though it does not describe vividly in Genesis 3 about God required
sacrifice to replace Adam and Eve sin, but God showed Adam and Eve how to replace them
as the one who should die because of their sin, by killing an
animal and make the clothes for them.
But these people who were doing it all wrong were not qualified priests to be performing such
sacrifices that allows the killing of an
animal so Krishna, the original preceptor of the Vedas, came
as Buddha and told them to forget the Vedas and live a life of non-violence (ahimsa) and to just follow his precepts.
It signifies a participation in the reconciling effect of the
animal sacrifice commanded and accepted by God
as a sign.
It's not just life / human nature / NATURE??? There are a lot of beautiful things in this world, but there is the uglier side
as well... and to blaim it all on God — good or bad... well you might
as well be living in the old testament... I am surprised there aren't still
animal sacrifices to the angry, wrathful god that so many believe in... Oh, another question to the thumpers who believe that «God can be cruel» (And I really don't think Stephen King would say any of his work supports that)... So is God actually «perfect»?
Unfortunately,
as a former Christian, well acquainted with sin and confession and the whole bloody business of
sacrifice to appease Someone who thinks that shows «love,» I question the whole ancient story, all the
animals killed, all the trees cut down (for temples and churches and crosses and «holy books») and all the human beings left to feel separated again and again from the universe, Nature, each other and their «gods.»
However, it is clear that parts of the bible condone and even advise behaviors that modern people have mostly left far behind and would consider unacceptable, such
as slavery, subjugation of women, and even
animal sacrifice.
Animal sacrifice was indeed performed as a matter of obedience and a ritualistic obligation representing Christ's ultimate fulfilling sacrifice and every animal, for the most part, was eaten as
Animal sacrifice was indeed performed
as a matter of obedience and a ritualistic obligation representing Christ's ultimate fulfilling
sacrifice and every
animal, for the most part, was eaten as
animal, for the most part, was eaten
as food.
In course of time, unusual events were studied
as of special significance; and from this into portents of one sort or another the way was easy: earthquakes, ec1ipses, abnormal births, abnormal weather, celestial phenomena, and then ritualistic phenomena, such
as the structure of a
sacrificed animal, the spread of oil on water, and so on in manifold ramifications.
Again, he was the sacrificer, at the
animal sacrifice or Hotri, performing himself the manual parts
as well
as reciting the ritual.
Furthermore, «those [scholars] who write about Jesus» desire to return the Temple to its «original,» «true» purpose, the «pure» worship of God, seem to forget that the principal function of any temple is to serve
as a place for
sacrifice, and that
sacrifices require the supply of suitable
animals» and, by implication, money - changers to facilitate their sale.
No theory of the way in which vicarious
sacrifice operates to redeem mankind was explicitly set forth; current forms of thought, such
as those associated with
animal sacrifices (E.g., Hebrews, chaps.
Christians believe that this ultimate
sacrifice redeemed us all from sin in the same way that lambs and other
animals were once
sacrificed as a symbolic way of cleansing people from sin.
While we all take some inspiration from ancient paganisms, there are some groups who are deeply dedicated to studying the primary texts and archaeological records of their chosen cultural framework to try to make their paths
as close to their spiritual ancestors
as reasonably possible in the modern world — this includes the use of bonfires and occasionally
animal sacrifice.
Religious observations that call for an
animal to be slaughtered are
as out of date and foul
as those calling for human
sacrifice.
The Jews thought that just
as they had to
sacrifice animals over and over again, they also had to be saved over and over again every time they sinned.
Luke seems to be hung up with the idea that Jesus, in order to be a
sacrifice for people's sins, had to be
as «perfect»
as the doves and other
animals they use to kill for YHWH at the Temple.
For instance: I have noted that some have said the Christians are not making
animal sacrifices as they should.
leo,
as bad
as this allowed killing of eagles is for no valid purpose, your bible actually demands senseless
animal sacrifice very explicitly, and for no useful purpose whatsoever.
Your message makes it appear
as if
animals are
sacrificed in some way during a Jewish service, which is untrue.
A command not to Do (Do not associate any partner with Allah, do not make a prophet
as son of Allah, do not say Allah has a son or daughter or wife, do not distinguish between prophets, do not make an angel
as one of three (referring to trinity concept), do not disobey parents, do not kill, do not harm, do not steal, do not eat dead meat, do not eat meat from the
animal was
sacrificed in the name of Idols, do not drink, do not fornicate or adultery, do not look down to orphan and poor, do not spread the fasaad (trouble) on the earth and so on...)
And when you present a blind
animal as a
sacrifice, you say: «It is nothing bad.»
And with the cup, so clear a symbol of his blood in that red wine, he saw,
as we did, that his life, poured forth, would seal a new commitment, would form upon the altar of God's grace a whole new covenant that would replace the ancient, worn - out slaughter of the
animals with one complete and final act, the
sacrifice of God's own son to show the world, to show us all the height and depth and majesty, the eternal glory of God's love, which gives itself forever, or until we come, at last, and offer up our own lives in return.
If, for instance, you were to condemn a religion of human or
animal sacrifices by virtue of your subjective sentiments, and if all the while a deity were really there demanding such
sacrifices, you would be making a theoretical mistake by tacitly assuming that the deity must be non-existent; you would be setting up a theology of your own
as much
as if you were a scholastic philosopher.