There is no such thing
as vanity publishing anymore, just writing that is good and writing that is bad.
Self - publishing, by the way, is not the same
as vanity publishing.
Paying someone to publish your book (assisted self - publishing, also known
as vanity publishing) is hardly sustainable if you have a cookbook to publish.
Partnership publishing is essentially the same
as vanity publishing wherein the author will share the financial risk with the publisher.
I grew up in a time when self - publishing was perceived 99 %
as vanity publishing and now it stands proud and often profitable.
But because this is 2012, when self - publishing is no longer stigmatized
as vanity publishing, I can release the book on my own.
Although the self - publishing alternative becomes more valid and tempting every day, many traditionally - minded authors still fail to consider author publishers as their peers, and often disregard all independent publishing efforts
as vanity publishing.
Do you think that the self - publishing alternative is taken seriously by the traditional actors (publishers, agents) or still widely seen
as vanity publishing?
When I got here four and a half years ago, we were still labelled
as vanity publishing and we were somewhat the scourge of the industry.»
And no one I've met who
as vanity published, young or old, has seemed to have a clue about commercial publishing, i.e. made an informed choice.
Not exact matches
For decades it was dismissed
as the desperate refuge of authors rejected by
publishing houses, wannabes who paid a fee to a musty
vanity press that would dutifully typeset their words and transform them into a few boxes of books that the «writers» could hand out to their friends.
As many commenters have already noted in my blog comments section,
vanity publishing and self
publishing are not the same.
-LSB-...] like a
vanity publishing arm (
as opposed to a true self -
publishing arm).
Although she knew about self -
publishing she dismissed it
as a
vanity club.
Just
as self -
published writers don't like to think of themselves
as vanity presses.»
As self - publishing shrugs off its «vanity press» stigma and becomes recognized as a bonafide and lucrative option, more and more traditionally published authors are finding that going indie just makes more sens
As self -
publishing shrugs off its «
vanity press» stigma and becomes recognized
as a bonafide and lucrative option, more and more traditionally published authors are finding that going indie just makes more sens
as a bonafide and lucrative option, more and more traditionally
published authors are finding that going indie just makes more sense.
Basically, Harlequin Enterprises has opened a
vanity publishing division called Harlequin Horizons, and RWA has taken away Harlequin Enterprise's eligibility
as an RWA - approved publisher.
The only part of the self -
publishing process that has more charlatans than the
vanity press business
as a whole is the book marketing business, in particular.
a. Your book will be taken more seriously than if it is listed in all the databases
as published by a
vanity press or CreateSpace.
A subsidy publisher is also known
as «
vanity publishing,» or pay - to - play
publishing.
Store owners hated these
vanity - press people almost
as much
as they hated a young traditionally
published writer with a handful of bookmarks.
As authors moved towards circumventing traditional publishers or small presses who required that a book be accepted in order to be
published in return for payment (one hopes), we saw the advent of
vanity presses and assorted
publishing opportunists.
But it does not come cheap, and the chances of having a hit are virtually non-existent - it's with good reason that the practice is known
as «
vanity publishing».
«The term «
vanity publishing» is mostly obsolete today
as a company contracting with an author to assist with the production of a book is considered «self -
publishing», not
vanity publishing.
For example Penguin Books started a Book Country imprint which has been criticized
as a
vanity press that preys on authors who want to be «affiliated» with the
publishing leviathan.
That's because the DIY sector, no matter how many hundred of thousands of ebooks get sold, rarely receives mainstream media attention or plaudits thanks to years of being thought of
as either
vanity publishing or low quality.
If the label of
vanity has migrated from the minds of self -
published authors, it still exists
as part of the collective psyche of their community.
It has always been a lottery getting an agent (and it still is) and even more so a publisher and in the old days Self
publishing was very accurately described
as «
vanity publishing.»
Therefore, it is better to think of
vanity presses
as self -
publishing service providers, not publishers.
Thank you for the info Vinny, now I think I see, You'd like a blog about marketing from lil» ol' me, Promote only when you are in a happy mood, And never promote your books by being far too rude, Try to make your posts interesting, clever and funny, And try not to part with a large amount of money, Now I feel there is one thing I should stress, Never go and give your cash to a
vanity press, Blog, tweet and update your Facebook status
as often
as you can, Make contact with other authors and befriend your only fan, Be courteous, considerate and always be kind, And you will slowly find, You'll get people interested and make them all see, Especially when you give your book away for free, Sit back, relax and be rather nice, And always think about the price, People will not part with their cash unless the price is low, Particularly for an author they do not even know, Always remember to write purely for fun, Never think that your profit will be a huge great sum, And pray for exposure to the lord above, Because self -
publishing is a labour of love,
In the old days when traditional
publishing was the only course a writer could take, with the exception of very expensive
vanity publishing, the approach to writing was pretty much
as follows:
they are
VANITY PRESSES pretending to do self
publishing and most are terrible bad
as well
as overpriced and under qualitied
I don't think you should be able to get RWA eligibility for any entity that includes a referral to
vanity publishing as part of a rejection.
At first I felt kind of self conscious using the term
published author to refer to myself, since, after all, I wasn't
published through one of the legacy publishers, who thought of my efforts
as «
vanity.»
[Sidebar: Assisted self -
publishing /
vanity publishing is ** not ** the same thing
as self -
publishing.
Let me ask a question: if you want to self -
publish your novel, why would you choose a
vanity press such
as Harlequin Horizons over a true self -
publishing concern, such
as Lulu or CafePress?
Self
published authors were viewed
as having a need to stroke their egos if they were willing to personally pony up the bucks to pay someone get into print (that's the «
vanity» part).
Whereas some self -
publishing companies and «
vanity presses» rip authors off by charging up front for service and then charging additional royalties
as high
as 55 % of net profits, BookBaby is one of the few companies in the industry that does not take any additional fees; the author earns royalties from the different platforms that BookBaby distributes to, and retains all percentages after the retail platforms» fee.
They are billed
as a «self -
publishing» company currently doing business with several major publishers, while acting more like a severely abusive
vanity press than an actual self -
publishing service.
The negative perception towards indie
publishing does rightfully stem from the unscrupulous
vanity press models of the past, but even
as more bestselling authors look to indie
publishing that attitude has yet to disappear altogether.
Just
as a recent HuffPo piece trashing self -
published authors and their works has demonstrated, it seems that everything about the industry is working towards a backwards slide to the days when
vanity press authors desperately struggled for acceptance.
The truth is there are a whole lot of things to be afraid of out there in the
publishing world: bad contracts, fee - charging agents,
vanity publishers that masquerade
as publishers — but this isn't one of them.
In the mid-2000s, options such
as print - on - demand and digital
publishing that were easier and more affordable than traditional
vanity publishing, increased the number of self -
published books.
The early stigma of self -
publishing as vanity press has not disappeared but has become significantly diluted
as dedicated self - publishers approach the work professionally in order to produce works that rival — even exceed — the quality of those
published by the Bigs.
As an author who has
vanity published, and plans to self -
publish, Amazon.com's contract with BookSurge doesn't sound too attractive.
As this all pertains to self -
publishing, the same people who think they can buy a $ 600,000 house with $ 10,000 income and then want the government to bail them out when they can't make the payments are the ones most likely to fall for the
vanity press trap.
- The Writer Beware website, which provides warnings about common schemes, scams, and pitfalls (there are sections on literary agents,
vanity publishers,
vanity anthologies, small presses, independent editors, contests, self -
publishing, writers» services, and copyright,
as well
as a page of writers» alerts, a series of case studies of defunct scams, and our famous Thumbs Down Agent and Publisher Lists), advice on how to avoid them, and links to helpful online resources.
As Victoria points out: «If you're going to define self - publishing as «paying to publish but keeping 100 % of the profits,» and vanity publishing as «paying to publish and then handing over a some of your profits to the publisher,» I think you can not then split hairs and call some self - publishing services vanity publishers and others printer
As Victoria points out: «If you're going to define self -
publishing as «paying to publish but keeping 100 % of the profits,» and vanity publishing as «paying to publish and then handing over a some of your profits to the publisher,» I think you can not then split hairs and call some self - publishing services vanity publishers and others printer
as «paying to
publish but keeping 100 % of the profits,» and
vanity publishing as «paying to publish and then handing over a some of your profits to the publisher,» I think you can not then split hairs and call some self - publishing services vanity publishers and others printer
as «paying to
publish and then handing over a some of your profits to the publisher,» I think you can not then split hairs and call some self -
publishing services
vanity publishers and others printers.
So you know how I've been defining the difference between
vanity publishers and self -
publishing presses
as (A) who's getting the profit and (B) who controls the ISBN?
In the book
publishing world, these companies are referred to
as subsidy or
vanity presses.