However, if there are groups of atheists, and I am not saying there are, with organizing principles like, elevating humanity, belief in evolution, belief in the big bang theory absent God, or other such beliefs consistent with
atheism as a belief, AND they organize to promote those beliefs and theories, or educate people regarding their belief that there is no God, then those groups consti tute a religious organization.
These governments all denied God and took up
atheism as their belief system.
Would it be possible that, because you regard
atheism as a belief, you fail to see that it is the conclusion of a rational evaluation of a belief system?
Not exact matches
@Yakobi try again,... how about 1/3 fallen angels (now called demons) making up religions /
as well
as belief of
atheism to be worshiped directly / indirectly
as God?
Can't be too intelligent,
as you seem to misunderstand that
atheism, like any form of theism, is strictly a
belief, and what a person believes has ZERO BEARING on how intelligent they can BECOME.
Many believe that
atheism should be defined
as a
belief that no gods exist because they want to make it seem like a position of faith.
Admittedly this particular thread is relatively tame compared to some I've seen, but I'm always amazed at the degree to which those who practice the religion known
as «
Atheism» feel a compulsion to foist their
beliefs on others.
So, using simple logic that I assume you would be able to perform (since you feel you are superior),
atheism can be defined
as a religion, in that it is a
belief system and worldview (i.e: a religion).
@nothing...
Atheism,
as far
as I'm concerned, is just the absence of a religious
belief.
one of the definitions of religion: a cause, principle, or system of
beliefs held to with ardor and faith»
As noted above
Atheism is none of these things.
As more and more children get removed from the old ways of indoctrinating them all with religious
belief from an early age, then
atheism will become the norm, and religion the refuge of the minorities of the mentally ill and the lame seekers of cargo cults.
Atheism can not stand on its own
as a
belief because it isn't one.
But understand that
atheism qualifies
as a
belief also — a
belief of «non-
belief» if you will.
Michael «
As a gay man I appreciate there efforts and support, but I think putting up this sign isn't really the best way to get through to people, all it does is create more hate, intolerance, and separation, I am not a christian but I am very spiritual, and putting up this sign implies that all gay people are atheists which is the furthest thing from the truth, I have no problem with religion, I have a problem with those who use there religions to control and hate others, same applies with
atheism, if you don't want to believe in anything than fine, just don't push your non
beliefs on me.»
Justin,
as much
as this would be a completely black & white, rational decision for you on the subject, the majority of humanity floats in a gray area on this, drifting back and forth between
atheism and strong spiritual
beliefs (usually rooted in the culture they were raised in).
As a gay man I appreciate there efforts and support, but I think putting up this sign isn't really the best way to get through to people, all it does is create more hate, intolerance, and separation, I am not a christian but I am very spiritual, and putting up this sign implies that all gay people are atheists which is the furthest thing from the truth, I have no problem with religion, I have a problem with those who use there religions to control and hate others, same applies with
atheism, if you don't want to believe in anything than fine, just don't push your non
beliefs on me.
Godless:»
Atheism is a
belief system
as much
as not collecting stamps is a hobby, or bald is a hair color.»
Atheism is not a
belief,
as it is defined
as a lack of
belief.
You said, «It is my
belief that
atheism is
as unfounded
as any theism.»
We don't say there are six types of Theists, we focus on the Religions, and that is what is missing — a modern Religion /
Belief system for Atheists —
as Atheism does not mean without rules, just about whether God exists or not.
There may be many types of
beliefs that have
atheism as their core, just
as all the «Theist» based religions.
That is where you have
beliefs — you can have
beliefs that have
atheism as their base, just like you «can» have theists without any «flavor» Generally to have something (vs the absence of something) you have to have some context which is why you have to have a
belief system / religion attached to a God.
It is my
belief that
atheism is
as unfounded
as any theism.
(For the record, Bell describes his current theological views
as agnostic - somewhere between
belief and
atheism.
As pointed out by Ducati, your
atheism is a protected
belief system in the UK.
When Jerry DeWitt converted to
Atheism and it was posted
as an article here on the
Belief Blog, the Faithful said the same thing you said in wondering who this guy was and why was it news worthy.
Conceding to believers that they can redefine the term «religion» to encompass «
atheism», or whatever other ideas they wish to encompass within the word, if that suits their purposes in trying to put anyone who doesn't believe in their god or any god into the same category
as themselves, grants to them the opportunity to dismiss anyone who doesn't believe in their god
as holding a religious
belief no more valid then their own and to classify you
as just another follower of a «false religion» unlike their own, which is the «true» religion.
But most self - described atheists in these parts go farther and define
atheism not
as the
belief that there is no god, but
as the lack of a
belief that there is a god.
I know lots of people that like to define
atheism more loosely
as merely a lack of
belief in God or not yet being convinced in the existence of God.
and now — for the THIRD time — I point out to you that I gave multiple categories for atheistic
belief (which I NEVER claimed were exhaustive, but you are rightly deducing that I am pressing out many other forms of
atheism as illogical or a form of cognitive dissonance).
Weak
atheism, also sometimes referred to
as implicit
atheism, is simply another name for the broadest and most general conception of
atheism: the absence of
belief in any gods.
Yes,
Atheism is a religion /
belief as is other relgions /
beliefs.
If there is a
belief system that can be accurately described
as childish and immature... it's
atheism... like sticking your fingers in your ears in singing «la la I cant hear you I wan na believe what I feel like believing!
If you decide to attack Stiefel because he advocates for
atheism, you may
as well attack every religious organization who advocates for their
beliefs.
If
atheism wants to be taken seriously
as a
belief system and not just
as a rejectionist, negative viewpoint then y» all have got to provide something, a sense of community or of a greater human endeavour, something more than a flat denial.
Atheism is
as much of a
belief as any religion; there can never be conclusive evidence that proves there is no God, just
as there can never be conclusive evidence that proves there is one.
Atheism is a
belief in the same sense
as bald is a hair color..
And
as I read through the many posts on this board many messages are made clear but none such
as transparent
as this one; the
belief that
atheism is the way of superior and thinking humans and only the moronic or evil self - serving amongst the human race believe in the existence of a deity.
Atheism is a religion by at least a few official definitions, by definition «faith» has nothing to do with religion, its loosely defined
as «a group of people with the same
beliefs».
As can be clearly seen in some of the topics CNN has added to the
Belief Blog that discuss
atheism.
But lets not be so ignorant
as to believe history is devoid of the forced imposition of
atheism or the state
as the arbiter of proper religious
beliefs.
Contrary to popular
belief, doing away with government endorsement of a particular religion is not the same thing
as seeking government endorsement of
atheism.
Atheism is
as much a faith
as any other philosophical
belief.
Religion is the
belief and acceptance of a supernatural power
as a moral center, and
atheism is PRECISELY NOT THAT.
Begging your pardon but
atheism is not defined
as the absence of
belief.
Yet I hope my point still stands in that to deem
atheism as the intellectually superior
belief is not accurate.
Nothing wrong with a guy promoting his
beliefs, but these whiny attempts to play the victim,
as if
atheism seriously represents some sort of downtrodden, oppressed underclass in an age when the nation has never been more secularized, are especially comical when performed beneath a giant banner proclaiming «REASON!»
In his speech to the crowd, Stiefel talked about what he sees
as the most important problem facing
atheism: «Discrimination comes from ignorance, and in this case it is ignorance about our
beliefs,» he said.
Among many of the scientific intelligentsia, the profession of
atheism has become almost
as academically unfashionable
as the profession of religious
belief.
on the base of his
atheism: «When I come to my own
beliefs, I find myself quite unable to discern any purpose in the universe, and still more unable to wish to discern one» —
as if that nondiscernment by his own sole self was sufficient for his sweeping, voluminous irreverence.