Sentences with phrase «atheists as believers»

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If there were as many unicorn believers and churches dedicated to them, you as a believer, and I as an atheist would be protesting the sheer volume of unicorn nonsense.

I am not defined by such labels as atheist or believer, they are just possible words to describe some very miniscule part of what I happen to think about a very basic level of the topic.

There is much that could be said about this, but I will stick with one thing, based on discussion at about the 2 minute mark: When atheists insist that atheism does not drive behavior, and then then campaign on behalf of atheism, ridicule religion and religious believers in the name of atheism, seek to change laws in favor of their atheistic positions, recommend the extermination of religion, and practice falsehoods like Dawkins's in support of atheism, they prove that their atheism drives their behavior and that their premise is false, disingenuous, and (as far as I can tell) useless for anything but giving atheism rhetorical cover from being implicated in atheists» atrocities.

Two things bother me, why jeopardize your children's security for this experiment, and why do it??? I mean everyone has doubts I their faith, but being a Christian raised by atheists, turning your back so publicly is the same as saying your faith was a joke... it is insulting to believers, a crisis of faith is normal in life, denouncing faith is shameful

I don't agree with him, but I don't think he's delusional, and I think he's the kind of believer that all atheists would be pretty comfortable with as opposed to the «the church is always right» variety.

Personally I don't care how a person spends their time or worships... they can worship goats, spirits, god, buddha, nothingness or football... As long as they don't criticize others or attempt to propagate to non believers, and by that definition, these atheist are as bad a evangelicalAs long as they don't criticize others or attempt to propagate to non believers, and by that definition, these atheist are as bad a evangelicalas they don't criticize others or attempt to propagate to non believers, and by that definition, these atheist are as bad a evangelicalas bad a evangelicals.

There are just as many lunatic atheists as there are lunatic believers!

Lil As if praying for God to spare such «sinners» as atheists, gays, and believers in evolution wasn't insulting in it's own waAs if praying for God to spare such «sinners» as atheists, gays, and believers in evolution wasn't insulting in it's own waas atheists, gays, and believers in evolution wasn't insulting in it's own way.

some of you atheists are still talking... I can hear you... the little patter of your heart as it increases in rate because you are so ticked off at those mean «ol believers whom you hate so much you just have to put all your time into the CNN posts dealing with faith and God... You are so predictable... blather on without me though, I have to go get my sons from practice, so you will have to spew your hate on those left behind... Merry Christmas!

As I don't carry enough theological weight to help my fellow believers in this debate with evidence or valuable dialog, and I was never able to cement myself in mt attempt to be an atheist, I can only say that when I tried to de-construct my belief system and embrace the scientific angle, it fell flat.

So... for an atheist or a believer... whatever language they use to articulate their thoughts... I think this somehow should be respected but also be seen as insufficient, partial, and provisional.

Whatever orthodox believers may think of Kenny's journey over these decades from classical theism to something vaguer, he is at least an equal - opportunity basher: For his aversion to absolutism can equally well be employed against the New Atheists, who affect an apodictic absolutism in their argumentation that makes them as impregnable to counterevidence as anything found in a creationist textbook.

Well, given that many atheists are actually more informed (as studies have confirmed) than believers, a better analogy would be that it's like asking a former professional chemist now teaching an English class about chemistry instead of asking the Chemistry teacher who never made it past chem 101 as an undergrad.

Yes, us atheists could be more polite, but believers need to take that big step past childish beliefs and / or practice their silliness in private (as in stop pushing their beliefs into politics and government).

I usually save the Clown Hammer © for annoying believers, but I'd be glad to bop some annoying atheists as well.

Unfortunately there are not yet enough atheists («civilized races») to quickly counteract the s @v @ges (such as believers in general, and christians and muslims specifically).

In a 2000 interview with Women's Quarterly, the great critic displayed about as much indifference to the existence of God as is humanly possible; he had neither the commitment of a true believer nor the paradoxical loyalty of the atheist who kicks against the pricks:

herbert Juarez stated «@calgary We regularly kick the snot out of «atheists» on Bible knowledge.In [sic] fact the youngest believer has the ability to show the godless, where [sic] the bear does his business in the buckwheat.If [sic] you are Canadian [sic], as in Calgary [sic], don't you have your own news network?

You said «As a Christian, I don't believe that just because you say you're a believer in Christ means you are one and if you as an atheist believes it when they tell you, you're just as blind as they are.&raquAs a Christian, I don't believe that just because you say you're a believer in Christ means you are one and if you as an atheist believes it when they tell you, you're just as blind as they are.&raquas an atheist believes it when they tell you, you're just as blind as they are.&raquas blind as they are.&raquas they are.»

I have never been able to understand why many atheists have as much antipathy towards people whom profess religious faith as most religious «believers» have toward atheists.

As a Christian, I don't believe that just because you say you're a believer in Christ means you are one and if you as an atheist believes it when they tell you, you're just as blind as they arAs a Christian, I don't believe that just because you say you're a believer in Christ means you are one and if you as an atheist believes it when they tell you, you're just as blind as they aras an atheist believes it when they tell you, you're just as blind as they aras blind as they aras they are.

@calgary We regularly kick the snot out of «atheists» on Bible knowledge.In fact the youngest believer has the ability to show the godless, where the bear does his business in the buckwheat.If you are canadian, as in calgary, don't you have your own news network?

Kid, there have been many different points in my life where I was a believer like you (not as crazy but still, believed), so it isn't like I read it only once as an atheist.

And to those atheists, denouncing all believers as devoid of logic and reason is patently wrong, and if you disagree, I invite you to debate me on the topic, or on any topic either religious or otherwise and decide for yourself whether I am devoid of logic and reason.

Atheists decry the claim of Christianity to having truth exclusive to only believers, without realizing that the claims they make about truth and reality actually are just as exclusive and less factually - based.

I wish we could have a logic - based atheist as a leader instead of having to rely on these nutcase skymonster believers.

It seems like most atheists don't like believers and some take an extra step and dislike what they believe in as well.

You might want to claim that you Christians have some extra facts, but you have to remember that many of us atheists were once believers as well, so we know that this is false.

As an aside, the irony might be lost on you that, despite the fact that so many atheists here are so quick to note that believers do not have a monopoly on morals, you are essentially proving the point of believers that, from a historical perspective, atheists far more than believers have lacked morals vis - a-vis war and death.

@ Derrick Yu, This actually may come as a shocker, but there are believers out there who still continue to ask questions about God, about the Universe, and so forth, and unlike certain atheists out there who if they can't get definite answers to just come to conclusions that can not be verified like conclude that there is no God, at least there are believers out there who at least are willing to at least be open to the possibility that there is a God, and from there they develop their faith, which even though is not a perfect knowledge, at least can help keep those minds open, unlike certain atheists who take the easy way out and convincing themselves that it is a fact that there is no God, when in reality it is not a fact at all.

Out of all the postings on this site today, I found «Derp's «post the most fascinating and informative, as well as deeply revealing.Even after boasting of what seems to be a practically perfect live by any measure, he informs us that he takes pleasure in mocking and ridiculing those of faith who are presumably his opposite; I can only wonder if, given all his supposed accomplishments, he is smart enough to realize how deeply revealing of his true character his remarks are.As a believer, I rarely engage in arguments with my atheist friends, and like to think I wouldn't lower myself to the level of juvenile name - calling and personal attacks against whatever my atheist friends hold dear.Most of the time we simply agree to disagree; when they hold forth with misinformation or ignorance on their assumed «knowledge «of my faith, I try to gently correct them; I certainly don't allow any disagreements we have to devolve into hateful insults and name - calling.

And I can tell you from over a decade of counseling experience that I have found FAR more «self - loathing» (as I believe you are using that term) among atheists and agnostics than among believers of any faith.

Funny that just above your post here you wanted to brand Pol Pot and the rest as atheists, yet are willing to give believers a tad bit of leeway and say that the slaughter of Native Americans was due to «economic reasons».

As an atheist, agnostic, non believer, infidel, etc, I do not, nor do I think Dawkins subscribes to a «party line».

HawaiiGuest «Boots» is probably one of those believers who like to pose as The Angry Atheist just to further the stereotype.

They admit it to me, since they know I am an atheist, but believers instantly see it as an attack on them.

«What distinguishes the newer atheist is his admission that non-believers can be just as immoral as believers.

midwest rail I am puzzled as to why atheists or non believers call it a lie when a Christian takes an unlikely but not ruled out position that is contrary to mainstream scientific consensus.

If the message from atheists received «due attention», there wouldn't be nearly as many believers.

Poorly educated believers such as yourself seem inexplicably frightened of atheists and other intellectuals who are not afraid to think for themselves!

As an atheist I would love nothing more than for moderates to stand up to these bullies, but my experience has been that they leave that up to us because they're just too nice to criticize, and they can't stand being told that they're not following Jesus by other believers.

So, at least indirectly — though actually quite directly, I believe — Stalin did persecute and kill religious believers because of his own Communist atheist orientation, even though this was mixed with a significant amount of his own personal megalomania, as Collin suggests.

For instance, most atheists don't come on here to call believers idiots (well not most and not at first anyways), it's to get into some healthy debate and expand our knowledge as well as hear a differing side.

But the main emphasis of my post is the evangelism slant... how it sounds the same as a believer's approach to reaching out to an atheist.

«If an atheist has belief or faith in anything, it's that believers of religion accept propositions as evidence, and possibility as fact.»

I'm not saying that when you'll do this you'll become an atheist (though personally I believe if you truely do think about it, that you will become one soon enough) there are a few people on this board (like JW) who has thought long and hard about god and rationalized it enough to still be a believer and make some sense, but fred, I will not be even remotely swayed to understand your point if you only use the bible as your bullhorn.

So, how would you propose I interpret the evidence I have, which is my own personal observations over the past 35 years, 25 as a bible believer, and the past 10 as an atheist?

But it is so open to be all - inclusive, all - consuming, like a unifying theory that applies to everyone from atheist to believer in any religious or spiritual tradition, that most wouldn't accept me as a part of their club.

As an atheist I must say that a lot of atheists on this board are as imbecilic as the believers they speak againsAs an atheist I must say that a lot of atheists on this board are as imbecilic as the believers they speak againsas imbecilic as the believers they speak againsas the believers they speak against.

Many atheists came from religious backgrounds and wished to know then due to the knowledge found, left the belief in god behind... Yes, there are some agnostic religious people, but they still believe and therefore would side with religion, as the non believers either agnostic or not would side with the atheists.