They predict greater and more rapid warming in
the atmosphere than at the surface when the opposite is happening (see, e.g.,
Not exact matches
Hmm, so you're telling me that a «heat shield» that was made of «special plastic» (as NASA called it back in the day), which was nothing but epoxy smeared over a ss honey comb «protected» the astros barreling into the upper
atmosphere at hypersonic 5 miles / sec, or well over 30 times the velocity of a jumbo - jet and thru temperatures *** as quoted by NASA *** that are «10 times hotter
than the
surface of the sun», and then they «braked» with only a parachute to a safe splashdown?
«Titan's
atmosphere is made up mainly of nitrogen and methane, with 50 % higher pressure
at its
surface than on Earth,» said Andrew Coates (UCL Mullard Space Science Laboratory), who led the study.
Because the Sun produces heat
at its core, this runs counter to what one would initially expect: normally the layer closest to a source of heat, the Sun's
surface, in this case, would have a higher temperature
than the more distant
atmosphere.
Whizzing 200 miles above the Martian
surface at 2.2 miles per second, it will pick out finer
surface details on Mars
than commercial satellites can show us on Earth, where cameras have to ride twice as far above the ground to avoid our planet's thicker
atmosphere.
Year - round ice - free conditions across the
surface of the Arctic Ocean could explain why Earth was substantially warmer during the Pliocene Epoch
than it is today, despite similar concentrations of carbon dioxide in the
atmosphere, according to new research carried out
at the University of Colorado Boulder.
Then again, with the
surface of Venus being
at almost 900 °F (500 °C) under more
than 90 times the air pressure of Earth's
atmosphere at sea level, with occasional showers of acid, it's not easy to test the properties of materials under Venusian conditions.
Specifically, liquid CO2 is heavier
than the water above it
at 8,850 feet (2,700 meters) or more under the
surface, meaning any leaks would never bubble back into the
atmosphere.
Guiding CE5 - T1 back to Earth poses a new challenge; entering the
atmosphere at a speed of 11.2 km / s is nearly 50 % faster
than the return speed of China's Shenzhou spacecraft, which has carried orbiting astronauts safely back to Earth's
surface.
But some regions may become redder and darker
than others because parts of the
atmosphere collapse, exposing those spots to more
surface - darkening radiation from space, researchers report March 22
at the Lunar and Planetary Science Conference in The Woodlands, Texas.
Water pressure
at those depths is more
than 200 times that of the
atmosphere at the
surface, and no one knew what all the heat, gas, and salt below the seafloor might do to the drilling equipment.
Thanks to industrialization, mercury levels in the
atmosphere are
at least three times higher
than they were 150 years ago, and mercury levels in ocean
surface waters are higher too.
Beneath its thick
atmosphere, the
surface of Venus is much hotter and
at a higher pressure
than that of our planet, making its land
surface hard to interpret.
At its height between 1960 and 1980, Polyarka was staffed by more
than fifty working scientists, engineers, and technicians focused on measurements of
surface weather, snow depth, sea ice, and conditions in the upper
atmosphere.
Recent computational studies have shown that strong SEP events may produce ionization and dose rate enhancements of more
than four orders of magnitude both
at altitude in the Martian
atmosphere and
at the
surface (Norman et al. 2014; Gronoff et al. 2015).
The observed fact that temperatures increases slower over the oceans
than over land demonstrates that the large heat capacity of the ocean tries to hold back the warming of the air over the ocean and produces a delay
at the
surface but nevertheless the
atmosphere responds quit rapidly to increasing greenhouse gases.
For example, if global warming were due to increased solar output, we would expect to see all layers of the
atmosphere warm, and more warming during the day when the
surface is bombarded with solar radiation
than at night.
About 2.3 billion years ago oxygen has saturated the planet's
surface and rapidly accumulated in vast amounts in our
atmosphere, From that point on Earth's
atmosphere became a glowing indicator of life for the entire Galaxy —
at least, for civilizations that are slightly better in building telescopes
than we are.
From my experience of a couple of years (1980 - 2) the local and regional solar
surface flux averaged less
than 70 % from flux
at the top of the
atmosphere (and for some periods of months even much less).
The physical processes by which energy might be added into the glacier material include: (A) convection between the glacier
surfaces and local surrounding
atmosphere and water, (B) direct radiation onto the exposed
surfaces of the material, (C) addition of material that is
at a temperature higher
than the melting temperature onto the top of the glacier (rain, say), (D) Sublimation of the ice directly into the
atmosphere, and (E) conduction into the material from the contact areas between the glacier and surrounding solid material.
Temperature tends to respond so that, depending on optical properties, LW emission will tend to reduce the vertical differential heating by cooling warmer parts more
than cooler parts (for the
surface and
atmosphere); also (not significant within the
atmosphere and ocean in general, but significant
at the interface betwen the
surface and the air, and also significant (in part due to the small heat fluxes involved, viscosity in the crust and somewhat in the mantle (where there are thick boundary layers with superadiabatic lapse rates) and thermal conductivity of the core) in parts of the Earth's interior) temperature changes will cause conduction / diffusion of heat that partly balances the differential heating.
The ocean has started to take up net CO2 from the
atmosphere through gas exchange
at the sea
surface: because the CO2 concentration in the
atmosphere is now higher
than in the
surface ocean, there is net flux of CO2 into the sea.
@ 48 If your speculation is correct, I assume that another consequence would be that, if / when concentrations of greenhouse gases start to drop, corresponding reductions in
surface ocean / land temperatures would take place
at a much slower rate
than would otherwise be the case: the surplus heat stored in the deep ocean will gradually make its way to the ocean
surface, and continue to warm the
atmosphere for decades, if not longer.
At the point where there is so much H2O vapor in the atmosphere that there is very little solar heating of the surface (very very far from happenning), there will also tend to be almost no net LW cooling at the surface, so a tropospheric - type lapse rate could still tend to extend down to the surface (as long as the net LW cooling is smaller than the SW heating, there will be some non-radiative flux from the surface for equilibrium conditions
At the point where there is so much H2O vapor in the
atmosphere that there is very little solar heating of the
surface (very very far from happenning), there will also tend to be almost no net LW cooling
at the surface, so a tropospheric - type lapse rate could still tend to extend down to the surface (as long as the net LW cooling is smaller than the SW heating, there will be some non-radiative flux from the surface for equilibrium conditions
at the
surface, so a tropospheric - type lapse rate could still tend to extend down to the
surface (as long as the net LW cooling is smaller
than the SW heating, there will be some non-radiative flux from the
surface for equilibrium conditions).
In 2) i wanted to discuss the different forcing efficacies of solar shortwave compared to anthro fossil carbon combustion upon global average
surface temperature, rather
than the emission temperature
at top of
atmosphere
he cooling due to aerosols is more
than 10 W m − 2
at the top of the
atmosphere, and more
than 25 W m − 2
at the
surface in the vicinity of Indonesia.
To achieve such a cycle, BNO (S) must
at a minimum warm the
surface and
atmosphere of the planet by a total of 0.31 °C during 1970 - 99 which would require more
than perhaps 20 ZJ during the warming phase, equally divided between the first half and the last half of this 1970 - 99 period.
A stronger gravitational field will produce a lower, denser, warmer
surface than a weaker gravitational field since the amount of solar energy retained by the
atmosphere will be focused into a smaller volume and that amount of energy will be determined by the amount of mass available to absorb it
at any given level of solar irradiation.
That is, under the RF model, natural CO2, which exchanges between air and
surface at more
than an order of magnitude greater
than ACO2, would be as susceptible to accumulation in the
atmosphere.
me warming of the earth's temperature, but that the observed rate of warming (both
at the earth's
surface and throughout the lower
atmosphere) is considerably less
than has been anticipated by the collection of climate models upon whose projections climate alarm (i.e., justification for strict restrictions on the use of fossil fuels) is built.
What's lost in a lot of the discussion about human - caused climate change is not that the sum of human activities is leading to some warming of the earth's temperature, but that the observed rate of warming (both
at the earth's
surface and throughout the lower
atmosphere) is considerably less
than has been anticipated by the collection of climate models upon whose projections climate alarm (i.e., justification for strict restrictions on the use of fossil fuels) is built.
In addition, a combined analysis of the response
at the
surface and through the depth of the
atmosphere using HadCM3 and the solar reconstruction of Lean et al. (1995) concluded that the near -
surface temperature response to solar forcing over 1960 to 1999 is much smaller
than the response to greenhouse gases (Jones et al., 2003).
-- higher temperatures give more CO2 from the oceans which, even after fractionation
at the sea
surface, has a higher d13C level
than the current
atmosphere.
The
surface can only warm by absorbing more
than it is emitting and that can only happen after the
atmosphere begins to warm and the increased emission causes a radiative imbalance
at the
surface.
[6] The amount of sunlight absorbed
at the
surface varies strongly with latitude, being greater
at the equator
than at the poles, and this engenders fluid motion in both the
atmosphere and ocean that acts to redistribute heat from the equator towards the poles, thereby reducing the temperature gradients that would exist in the absence of fluid motion.
The entire
atmosphere surface to 100 km edge of space is already much much warmer
than 193K, and a true or «partial» blackbody
at 193K can not warm a much warmer blackbody
at 255K or 288K.
«This is ongoing research and bears watching as other factors as still under investigation, such as changes in the time - of - day readings were taken, but
at this point it helps explain why the
surface measurements appear to be warming more
than the deep
atmosphere (where the greenhouse effect should appear.)»
It has been known
at least for 50 years that
surface is colder
than the overlaying
atmosphere over Antarctis.
The approach of this paper is different
than many previous papers that focus on the energy budget
at the
surface or the top of the
atmosphere (TOA).
The critical element is the principle that the warming is driven primarily by what happens
at the top of the
atmosphere (TOA) rather
than the
surface.
Actually, the
atmosphere doesn't even delay cooling
at the
surface overnight either — we found that the
surface temperature dropped ten times more
than if it simply cooled
at a direct rate without delay in cooling, and so therefore, it is not delaying cooling
at the
surface at all, but enhancing it.
The temperature
at the poles of Venus (over 720K) can not be explained by any «runaway greenhouse effect» because there is less
than 1W / m ^ 2 from the Sun that gets through the Venus
atmosphere to the
surface at the poles.
We see a greenhouse effect (higher
surface temperature)
at the Earth's
surface because the temperature of the gas (
atmosphere) on average is less
than the temperature of the source (
surface).
This is clearly not the case overall as there is radiation coming from the Earth's
surface at a higher BB emission temperature
than one finds in most of the
atmosphere.
So the partial trapping of solar energy near the Earth's
surface by clouds and greenhouse gases does cause the
atmosphere to fill a volume greater
than it otherwise would
at that temperature.
The Earth's albedo reflects away about 30 % of the Sun's 1,368 W / m ^ 2 energy leaving 70 % or 958 W / m ^ 2 to «warm» the
surface (1.5 m above ground) and
at an S - B BB equilibrium temperature of 361 K, 33 C cooler (394 - 361)
than the earth with no
atmosphere or albedo.
Thus, the increase in the
surface temperature
at sea level caused by doubling of the present - day CO2 concentration in the
atmosphere will be less
than 0.01 °C, which is negligible in comparison with natural temporal fluctuations of global temperature.
The problem is difficult because even if there are no GHGs in the
atmosphere you still get lateral convection and convective turnover because you are heating the
surface more
at the equator
than at the poles.
Robert Brown says» I'm not arguing that a dynamically driven
atmosphere can have a lapse rate, only that Jelbring's static one will not, and hence can not be looked
at as a source of «heating» or as a static mechanism that maintains the
surface at a higher temperature
than the gas overhead.»
I do not believe that the
surface at altitude receives less radiation
than at sea level, in fact it should receive more because it passes through less
atmosphere.