We talked about Kuo's early exposure to Fort Thunder as a student at RISD, how wild and elegant color is, My Chemical Romance making
good on their promises as a band, the lineage of emo, the
best time of day to paint, getting into self - publishing, the new Obama portrait, anxiety and jokes, literally biting your
tongue, how Peter Halley has made the same painting for decades and why that's the one of the most audacious radical painting moves out there, Kuo's band HEX MESSAGE, why Bart Simpson is still on every single thing in the zine tent at the New York Art Book Fair, Jeremy Lin and bootleg merch
beef, Kuo's two - person exhibition «It Gets Beta» with Scott Reeder in 2015, avoiding knuckleheads so you can enjoy watching sports, being the last generation who for some reason is still afraid of selling out, his own roundball podcast Cookies, and embracing the simulation.