Nor is there any dialogue
between God the Father and the pre-existent Son about the work of redemption such as we find in the hymns of Luther and Paul Gerhardt.
54 The cross is «neither a symbol expressing the relationship
between God the Father and his Son nor a symbol of masochism which needs suffering in order to convince itself of love.
Not exact matches
So we all, even Osama, will be saved from physical death, but Jesus Christ — the atoning one, and only one capable of being the mediator
between us and
God the
father — can only save the repentant from spiritual death (faith and works meet for repentance are necessary).
But until we come to the end of ourselves then we are going to do and say what we want, even as it was with me: It's one thing to be a heathen, even as I was, but a whole other ball game to set our hearts on
God and His truth; yet, that can only come when we are sick and tired of being sick and tired of our own lives and we just give up, we know then who has given up by the one they advocate for, even has given place to: Paul said; with my heart I want to do what is right, but my flesh does what I hate: This is when
God's grace is sufficient, because our hearts are right with
God, but our flesh is not: There is a war going on within these temples, therefore; even as our flesh wins out to do what we hate, our hearts are set on
God and His ways which has been established in the Word of Truth, which then causes us to stand and speak forth what we believe, even as this causes a rending to happen within us, for Christ to be formed in us this needs to be, as we come up in His glories even for a better resurrection for them who believe: The heart wars against our flesh, even as Christ wars against the man of sin within: For out of the abundance of our hearts our mouth doth speak, therefore; if we speak not the Wholesome Words of our Lord, Then our hearts are still wicked: But to advocate for wickedness instead of Christ, one has become a teacher of lawlessness, he then advocates for the man of sin: Many who have come out of religion has done this, as they went from one mountain top «from the extreme right» of self exaltation (Religion) to the other mountain top «to the extreme left» of the (Heathen) and missed the valley in -
between that is takes to humble us: One extreme to the other, and missed Jesus: Jesus is taking ones through the valley's to strip us down of all who we are before exalting us to be just as He, even as the Christ in us overcomes that man of sin (Adam) through theses valleys of contrast that cause a rending to happen within; and when we are rent in two, we stand on His word of truth, so we too can become one with Him, even as Jesus is with our
Father: This is how Christ is formed in us: Thank - you
Father; in Jesus Name Alexandria
Russell argues that for the
Fathers, the relationship
between human beings and the Trinity was always «asymmetrical,» bringing together beings of «diverse ontological type» — the opposite of Mormon claims that
God and humanity share the same ontology.
I may be mistaken, but it seems in his letter that Cardinal Kasper is denying that in the book he said mercy is essential to
God, but rather that it is only «the mirror» of
God's love among the Trinity, that the love
between the
Father and the Son from which proceeds the Holy Spirit has a counterpart in
God's merciful love for creation.
At confirmation class, this pastor spoke about being «children of
God» and looked for an example to illustrate this special relationship
between father and children.
That's the One and Only True
God, just as Jesus Christ is the One and Only Mediator
between the Only
God, His
Father, and mankind.
People typically worship
God because they're thankful for being given life, and as they let Him in their hearts they forge a relationship with Him as their heavenly
father, but like the relationship
between a child and a
father here on Earth there is also an element of fear and respect.
He will choose one man to be the
father of one nation, and that nation will be the means by which
God will heal the breach
between all other nations and himself.
The difference
between a metaphor and a model can be expressed in a number of ways, but most simply, a model is a metaphor with «staying power,» that is, a model is a metaphor that has gained sufficient stability and scope so as to present a pattern for relatively comprehensive and coherent explanation.15 The metaphor of
God the
father is an excellent example of this.
Since John distinguished the Logos from
God as well as saying the Logos is
God, they affirmed a distinction within the unity of
God,
between the Logos and the
Father.»
Brown finishes with a remarkable discussion of the Christology of Nestorius and Cyril of Alexandria in their effort to sort out both the distance and solidarity
between the
Father and Son by comparing it to the distance
between God and believer and
between rich and poor.
It is no coincidence that most religious traditions turn to personal and public human relationships to serve as metaphors and models of the relationship
between God and the world:
God as
father, mother, lover, friend, king, lord, governor.
Father Neuhaus» argument is to read these reprobation texts as «suggesting a destiny of separation from
God,» while reading other texts (Colossians 1:19 «20, 1 Corinthians 15:20 «28, Romans 5:18, 11:33 «36) as «suggesting the redemption of the entire cosmos,» leaving us free to choose
between these mutually exclusive alternatives, since the Church in her wisdom has not pronounced on the matter.
In becoming a model, it has engendered wide - ranging interpretation of the relationship
between God and human beings; if
God is seen as
father, human beings become children, sin can be seen as rebellious behavior, and redemption can be thought of as restoration to the status of favored offspring.
Powell accordingly takes his reader through varying accounts of the Trinity in Barth's Church Dogmatics, where Barth finally settles on a view that stresses
God's inherent otherness: «
God exists as the in -
between of the
Father and the Son; here
God enters into and becomes that which is radically opposite
God.
While it is true that the event of the Crucifixion, or the movement of the universal process of atonement, reveals the self - estrangement of
God, a polarity manifesting itself in the yawning chasm
between the
Father and the Son, a consistent and radical form of faith must never fall into a nondialectical dualism by wholly isolating the alien
God and the incarnate Word.
Through the events that faith knows as the Incarnation and the Crucifixion,
God empties himself of his sovereignty and transcendence, and not only does this kenotic sacrifice effect the dissolution of the opposition
between Father and Son in the new epiphany of
God as universal Spirit, but so likewise vanishes the opposition
between God and the world.
But then there is the further, more jarring dissonance
between, on the one hand, his facing me and speaking in my direction, and, on the other hand, his addressing
God the
Father.
The lie is so that people believe that another than Christ can be our intermediary
between humanity and
God the
Father, but the only intermediary is Christ, and all who pray to the Virgin Mary are doing so to demons.
Love is the will to that communion
between God and man and
between every man and his neighbour which has its ontological ground expressed in the Trinitarian symbol of the love of the
Father for His Son.
A beautifully written piece of literary criticism that mines the depth of the connection
between O'Connor's achievement as a novelist and her quest, in imitation of the desert
fathers, for aloneness with
God.
The only significant point of difference
between my understanding of the Trinity and theirs is the one which I urged earlier in my critique of their respective theories: namely, that the role of the Spirit within the Trinity as the bond of love
between the
Father and the Son should not overshadow the fact that
God is by nature community or interpersonal process.
Like Moltmann, Mühlen then presents the Spirit as the personified bond of love
between the
Father and the Son, who at the moment of Jesus» death on the cross is breathed forth upon the world to unite human beings with one another and with the triune
God (VG 23 - 24, 33 - 36).
I will say this however; a truly just and beneficent
God would also consider the separation of knowledge and understanding
between this life, and the life before and after (that being the energy or spiritual existence as energy is not destroyed) and in so knowing this a just
God or «
father» would simply have the ending of the material life be a moment of coming home, learning, and changing over into understanding of all that occurred while we were away.
The distinctions
between Father, Son and Spirit are distinctions truly drawn of
God, and not merely of the way that
God appears to us to be, or of the way that for some brief span of time — he was.»
We are not concerned here to consider the eventual result of this Pauline and early Christian interpretation of Jesus — the development of the doctrine of the triunity of
God, with distinctions made
between the eternal
Father, the Word (or Son) as the «outgoing» of
God in creation and redemption, and the Holy Spirit somewhat uncertainly added to round out the three-fold pattern in unity.
visions of
God as the Trinity see the inner trinitarian relationships (that is, the relations
between Father, Son and Spirit) as a prototype or charter for right relationships tout court.
It seems to me that the motto or title of the Holy
Father as «Servant of the servants of
God» is possibly the most promising key to reconciliation
between the East and the West.
This kind of internal contradiction seems to run through much traditional theology; it finds explicit expression in Luther's dichotomy
between the terrible
God, who put him not only in awe but in utter terror, and the tender and loving
God whom he knew in Jesus Christ as the savior, the loving friend, and the gracious
Father of men.
We hope that there remains no quarrel with the orthodoxy of our central affirmations that «The
fathers maintained the sacredness of matter and its share in
God's saving plans ``; that the flesh is central to the plan of salvation; that the Incarnation takes place in order to bring about eternal communion
between the Godhead and humanity, and thereby the whole of the physical creation which is summed up in Christ.
standing
between good and evil, snaring in both; man, the sinner, rebelling in his freedom against his Creator and Judge:
God the merciful
Father, contending for man's soul.
Let's get busy with
God's idea of the whole scenario and I believe He's aim is to get us into being part of the fantastic relationship (or is it fellowship)
between Him:
Father, Son and Spirit.
«
God is what happens
between Jesus and his
Father in their Spirit,» Jenson declares.
«
God is what happens
between Jesus and his
Father in their Spirit.»
Certainly for devotional purposes it is hard if not impossible to distinguish
between these two; indeed, it is equally difficult to distinguish these two from whatever is known of «
God the
Father.»
Because
God glorifies Himself in Trinity, the
Father gives glory to the Son who gives glory to His
Father with the Spirit being the reciprocal love
between the persons.
Standard Western theology, according to Rahner and others, has been led by alien philosophical maxims to posit an ontological chasm
between God's triune history in time and his eternal triune being — so that, for instance, it has been thought that the
Father or the Spirit could have become incarnate instead of the Son.
Are there not some points of identity
between the
God of Hartshorne's philosophy and the
God and
Father of our Lord Jesus Christ?
How can we continue claiming that the love of
God is revealed in the cross of Jesus and yet ignore the unbearable anomalies that exist
between the demands that love makes upon human parents and the terrible way the
Father, in order to make peace with his enemies, presides over the death of his very son?
Toward the end of Ut Unum Sint, John Paul cites some of the questions that must be addressed in conversation with the communities issuing from the tragic divisions of the sixteenth century: (1) The relationship
between Sacred Scripture, as the highest authority in matters of faith, and Sacred Tradition, as indispensable to the interpretation of the Word of
God; (2) The Eucharist as the Sacrament of the Body and Blood of Christ, an offering of praise to the
Father, the sacrificial memorial and Real Presence of Christ and the sanctifying outpouring of the Holy Spirit; (3) Ordination, as a Sacrament, to the threefold ministry of the episcopate, presbyterate, and diaconate; (4) The Magisterium of the Church, entrusted to the pope and the bishops in communion with him, understood as a responsibility and an authority exercised in the name of Christ for teaching and safeguarding the faith; (5) The Virgin Mary, as Mother of
God and Icon of the Church, the spiritual Mother who intercedes for Christ's disciples and for all humanity.
The Pope further explores the profound relationship
between Father and Son in a beautiful passage on the cloud and the voice of the
Father (cf. Lk 9, 34): «Theholy cloud, the «shekinah», is the sign of the presence of
God himself.
What if we, like our Jewish brothers and sisters, do not believe we need an «intermediary»
between us and
Father God?
Because of the close connection
between obedience and hope, one particular expectation especially filled many minds: the hope that
God would destroy the rule of the heathen, that He would again make of Palestine a completely holy land in which only the law of their
fathers would prevail.
Its awesome, do nt let anyone come
between you and
God it is a relationship and personal if its not what you have then run to Him cling to Him and find out what your
Father has for you, You wont be disappointed.
Luther's distinction
between law and gospel seems to express this view, as does the vision of the twentieth «century Polish mystic St. Faustina Kowalska, which portrays a wrathful
God the
Father holding back from the application of terrible justice only because He sees man through the wounds of His Son.
There are three levels at which the issue must be confronted: at the trinitarian level, of the internal relationship
between the
Father, Son, and Holy Spirit; at the Christological level, regarding Jesus Christ who was born true
God and true man; and at the anthropological level, about males and females created in the divine image.
Accordingly, he correctly points out that the language of intimacy in love as applied to
God, the love
between father and son,
between husband and wife, are basic in Hebraic speech about the love of
God for Israel (SFL 19f).
However, those who recognize the
God - given inherent differences
between men and women, husbands and wives,
fathers and mothers, and see their importance not only for the proper working of society but for our salvation, should give thanks for the Catholic Church's resolve in adhering to two thousand years of tradition — a tradition rooted in
God's good purposes for all men and women.