What I want to say is this is matter between trad authors, trad publishers, and Amazon, there's no reason for customers and self publish authors to meddle or dictate how much
big trad publishers SHOULD sell their own ebooks.
But
the big trad published books quote from mixed reviews all the time.
If someone from
a big trad publishing house came knocking on my door (metaphorically - speaking) offering a generous contract for one of my books... I would turn it down.
Their move smacks as yet more anti-indie bias as many of
the big trad pubs don't participate in KU.
Not exact matches
To be sure, it's a
trad production, especially in the parts with Rhys Ifans as Snowden's CIA boss, at one point looming ominously large in a communications room, and Nicholas Cage as his
big - hearted computer - history mentor.
Anyway regardless of your thoughts on libraries, indie bookshops or even
big bookshops, I hope this helps explain to
trad and self - pubbers alike why they may not see their book on our shelves, ever.
KU and cheap
big - name
Trad pubbed books have stopped sales dead for most of us.
Some of the
biggest indie authors first got their start in
trad pub, while others never sent out a single query letter before hitting it
big.
One of the
biggest problems with
trad publishing is definitely the timing.
You are not one of the
big 5 and many of us commenting on Joes blog have
trad author friends.
So, to summarize — we are traditional publishers, by strict definition, and
trad publishers come in small, medium and
big sizes, and some are young, and others are very old.
(Because as I've often liked to relate, both my love of Great
Big Sea and my love of Quebec
trad can be traced right back to the very same concert, the first time I saw both GBS and La Bottine Souriante, way back in 2000 at Chateau Ste. Michelle.
Literary fiction never did well in indie publishing because it depends on reviews from the
big, well known journals like the New Yorker, the NYT book review, the TLS, the Guardian, the NY Review of Books, etc, and they only review
trad pub.
Jim and Bryan's ho - ho - holiday episode of SMBS touched upon the popular podcast Serial, the
big boost adults buying YA gave the industry, Macmillan's deal with Amazon, Konrath dropping out of KU, and what
trad pubs learned in 2014.
Trad - publishers of course have no such restrictions and regularly give away free ebooks on the
big retailers as part of their promo campaigns.
And one of the
biggest negative effects we've now created as indie authors is denigrating the value of ebooks — specifically indie ebooks, as you'll find the
trad pubs don't do much, if any, free promo — in the eyes of the audience that buys them.
That's not bad for an indie book as I can't afford such luxuries open to the
trad «
big five» such as Kirkus and NetGalley.
Another question: do you think the discounting by Amazon could be on purpose, because they noticed
big publishing was practicing deep discount conditions with Amazon's discounts, and Amazon knew the more discounting it would do, the more
trad pub and hybrid authors would be screwed, and tempted to become only self - published authors?
I'm not annoyed or surprised — I predicted that once Amazon had its way with the
big 5, once indies had served their purpose as a stick with which to threaten
trad pubs, it would go back to business as usual, where the lion's share of sales went to
trad pubs and Amazon imprints (a variation of
trad pub), and indies had to generate far more content and work far harder for a much smaller slice of the pie.
These are good points, but don't take into consideration a
big change in
trad publishing: the author is increasingly responsible for marketing and branding.
It contrasts with the
trad publishing /
big bookstore business model, where a book is a short - lived «event», sometimes lasting no more than three months.
It's all those ostriches and lemmings in
trad publishing, at least with the
Big 5 and their ilk.
That the
big «
trad - pub e-book spike» was mostly e-textbooks is rather interesting.
Still, it amazes me that
trad publishing, especially the
Big 5, continue to refuse to admit that times and tech and customer demands have changed.
Trad - Pub Authors: Launch
Big or Die In 2012, Rachelle Gardner noted the typical advance for a first - time traditionally published author is $ 5,000 - $ 15,000 per book, and most of those first - time authors do not sell through their advance, so that is all the money they will ever get from that book.
Oh, I'll also hedge my bets and try the
trad route too — but not with one of the
Big 5 and not with an agent who would probably fight me tooth and nail on my choice of where to send my work and then happily take their 15 % or more of what I might make.
But more importantly, indie authors have forever to make that money, whereas
trad - pub authors have a few months to Launch
Big or get pulled from the physical shelves.
Sure, if you go
trad you'll get a
big fat check so you'll be able to quit your day job and spend some quality time with the ol' muse... oh, wait, no; if you win Slush Pile Lotto, your prize is one third of a pretty mediocre check that may pay a month or two of rent during the six months before the book is done and you get the second third of said check.
Given the
big difference between
trad's payment percentages and indy's, there should be enough money there to fund the service house AND tempt the orphaned mid-lister into trying.
It's been largely ignored, as most of the media are
big five
trad - pub affiliates or sympathizers.
The
biggest problem with indie writing is the loss of that support that gives the
trad publisher an advantage.
Publisher 99 % Author 1 % is
Big Five
Trad Pub and those smaller presses that operate in a similar fashion.
Without
big publishers entering the game (only around 3 % of the titles on KU are not self - published), KU is only opening the gap wider between
trad and self publishing.
Boo hoo, all the authors (
trad pub) interviewed vilifying Amazon, talking about how Amazon is so
big, mean, terrible, stealing money and food and possibly even sex from them.
If they abandon the
trads en masse, then that's a disaster for the
Big 5.
I wanted to thank you, not just for this article but for all your articles that try to understand the «
big picture» of
trad and digital publishing, and the evolving landscape for indie authors.
The
biggest thing I took away from my experience in the
trad - world was a commitment and passion for good art.
Thanks so much for doing this Hugh and Data Guru — my husband is a statistician and we've talked before about doing some kind of
bigger data analysis, because I am always talking about the
trad / indie / hybrid thing and he always says «case studies don't count.»
Big name authors in the
trad pub world have lots of incentives to stay (they get lots of marketing $ and support).
I know brilliant writers, like RS Guthrie (whose new one, Blood Land, is a standout example of why some indie authors are completely capable of sitting at the
big table with the
trad pub boys), whose work isn't getting nearly the visibility it deserves.
My
big gripe is the fighting and snootiness between
trad and self - publishers.
Linda A. said: «My
big gripe is the fighting and snootiness between
trad and self - publishers.»
Trad publishing also does not ensure quality or diversity - these are
big businesses that want what sells to the masses.
This is true for
trad - pub authors as well (again, the appeal of the book and the power of the paper distribution system can have a
big impact on sales).
Because the excluded publishers are basically all of the
big five plus the
biggest academic publisher — between them responsible for 80 % of the entire
trad publishing market.
I have had over 50 books published in non-fiction (textbooks) with a
big US publisher so I'm pretty familiar with
trad publishers and I have to say Amazon Publishing seems to get it as you say.
From what you've seen at IPR, which wave is
bigger: indie to
trad or
trad to indie?
But to sacrifice your financial future and security for that, unless the
trad offers
big money, could be tragic.
Trad publishing takes on many forms, and the farther one gets from the
big pubbers the more difficult to see the return to the author, no?