Sissoko is a box to
box midfielder not a DMF but yeah he'll be like a poor man's yaya toure, i think we should go for him.
Diaby is always injured Wilshere wants to be DM but hasn't proven himself Ramsey is a box to
box midfielder not DM.
Not exact matches
By the aneke was
not a striker but a
box to
box midfielder.
With 3 at the back we don't need a traditional defensive
midfielder, we need a
box to
box midfielder with strong defensive action who can link defence and attack and start the play from deep on the field.
We don't have enough quality in back of Central
midfield be it a top holding
midfielder or top
box 2
box.
Not a genuine need right now but when ramsey gets injured we'll need a
Box - to - box midfield
Box - to -
box midfield
box midfielder.
I think Cesc in the wing is also much better than ozil in the wings, can also play
box to
box or CAM can tackle put his body in the game, score goals from many angles and above all Cesc is an arsenal graduate we all remember how Cesc made our
midfield so dominant in many games, we remember how he was during our barca game till he got injured lets
not forget le capitan.
Beside Sanchez we do
nt have much players that are able to shoot and atleast get decent shots on target from outside the
box, Like De Bryne, Yaya, Hazard, Mahrez, Payet etc...
Midfielders but they are able to get a goal when strikers are tied down.
Ramsey is the only player who makes runs into the
box for us... lf
not for him we would pass sideways for hours outside the
box as none others make the runs he does Hes our best
midfielder overall can do everything good and sometimes worldclass but just does
nt do enough but who has @Arsenal.
Elneny is
not a DM but he is an extremely good
box to
box attacking
midfielder with an outstanding long shot in his arsenal.
What we got with girouh and welz are different options different styl of play last yr we didn't have that... trust me when Walcott and ozil come bk wenger wont have a choice but to play them all... right side thats Walcott left side thats Sanchez up front welz or girouh
midfield is our problem... Wilshire and ramsey should fight for thT
box to
box and ozil and carzola should fight for that cam.....
Jesus... Ramsey is the most backward and lateral passer of a ball I have seen in a
midfielder and that's when he has control of the ball which is
not that frequent as his close control is hardly a strong point... So that leaves running in to
box scoring occasionally and then believing he is a striker... Like I said attributes of a bench player
If you watch Arsenal carefully this season, you would notice that beside defence, one of our major problems is that our
midfielders don't make enough runs into the
box leaving Lacazette isolated and marked out.
It's difficult to blame Ozil for the difficulties he's faced at Arsenal without looking at the big picture... like the fans, he too was lied to by Wenger... there is no doubt in my mind that he was told by Wenger that he was trying desperately to recreate our earlier success by acquiring players that fit the system he ran when Henry was in his prime... as we know this hasn't happened... in order for Ozl to flourish he needs some speed up front, forwards that can make intelligent runs, a boss in the
midfield to compensate for his obvious defensive liabilities and defenders who can transition from defence to offence quickly and efficiently... much like he had in Real and with the German National squad... unfortunately he ended up on a squad that has a striker who plays with his back to goal, very few intelligent runs into the
box, minus Sanchez, no one to take pressure off him in the
midfield, once Cazorla was injured, average defensive
midfielders around him, which simply highlighted his lacking defensive qualities and defenders who lack the necessary cutting edge when it comes to transitional passing... instead of blaming Ozil, which is simply too easy, especially considering his mopey disposition, we should be asking ownership and / or Wenger why they brought him in if they didn't intend on doing what was necessary to get the best from him... can you imagine Ozil playing with the likes of Henry, Viera, Petit and Pires, it would be incredibly to watch and even more difficult to stop... so the only thing different between his experiences in Real and with the German team versus his time at Arsenal are the players around him and we all know who is in charge of making those decisions, the Grinch who stole soccer
Yes there are better
midfielders (
box to
box) available and i would
not mind Wenger signing one.
Elneny in his first season slightly outperformed Xhaka in his first season.To me he's far better.He has improved so much this season and I hope he won't be benched.He's a defensive
midfielder but people confuse him to be a
box to
box player just because he's everywhere.He's really good in 1v1's and is usually positionally excellent.His passing is also very good.I look forward to seeing him build on his performances and have a break out season.
we have great fire power with probably the 2nd best creative attacking
midfield in the EPL now the problem is that if we get congested in every game just outside the oppositions
box there is no way we can score goals with 15 to 18 players in and around you, we need to change the way we play we can
not play the million passing the ball game outside the
box, we have to draw out the opposition to half way to be able to get behind their deference
Ramsey is
not a «typical
box2
box midfielder» because he only plays in one
box, the oppositions.
And then we have Aaron Ramsey... who right now looks like our best
midfielder... makes good runs into
box, goal threat, but also loses possession and doesn't track back to defend.....
We don't have a decent back - up to Coqluen or a decent
box - to -
box midfield player, Ramsey was awful yesterday, losing the ball with dumb passes in dangerous areas and failing to put the ball on target in a few decent situations.
Where he will play is still unknown, Vidal is a tough tackler but he also provides for his team further up the field, scoring 7 goals last season including 4 in the league for Juventus,
not really the holding player that Arsenal appear to need but another
box to
box all action
midfielder.
Bellerin and Monreal is always almost on the corner line crossing ball's, we are always leaving defense bankrupt and vulnerable for a take over, by the time Monreal and Bellerin return to their station they have just sprinted the whole of the pitch to make a defensive tackle sometimes coming in from behind the player in our
box without giving a penalty or just outside for a free kick which we can
not defend set peaces, if we are to use them some
midfield players have to drop back which is
not happening at the moment
Xhaka and Eleny aren't the answer either to a lack of defensive
midfielder or
box 2
box player with strong defensive skills ala Viera
Coquelin is
not a
box to
box midfielder and Theo's only advantage is Nationality!
The 20 - year - old
midfielder was
not signed from Red Star Belgrade for his goalscoring, but showed great composure when he popped up in the
box to collect Alberto Moreno's cross.
The same with Ramsey, he is
not a
box to
box midfielder he is a number 10.
Fair point but we have had this issue for three years now and that must mean Wenger does
not want a DM in the team, has he forgotten what we won back in the days of Veirra and petit.he seems to want
box to
box midfielders Letting tv5 go without replacing him as promised and loaning Jenko out and
not recalling are schoolboy errors
not what your expect from an 8m a year manager!
He's a bit overrated I must say.I also don't get those who are asking him to tackle well.The fact is he's
not a good tackler.I fear Wenger has made him untouchable in our team such that even if he plays badly he still starts.I mean if people are saying he's
not a DM in the first place then is he also a CM?If he's a CM does he have the quality to play along side a DM?These are the questions we need to ask ourselves.If he's a CM then he's good at distributing from deep and also up top but he can't hold thd ball in tight spaces or dribble which is very important.If he's a DM then he simply can't defend.That's why for us to be successful in the long term with him we need a hybrid
midfielder or what I call a defensive
box to
box midfielder.
WE NEED A
MIDFIELD CAPTAIN!!!! Someone who shouts at the ref when zouma don't get booked someone who shouts at welbeck and nearly chins him for
not squaring the ball to lacazette fans r a tap in someone who will threaten the linesman when he gave stoke 4 throw ins in a row so that he's to scared to give us offside coz he knows it's onside (corrupt) we don't have a presence just pass pass with no end product and a tiny petty team who lets defenders push them over in the
box it's boring arsenal bore me and Wenger is the master of boringness conte Jose are what I like coz they have a bit of an edge i wish I could be arsenal so CM captain
Pogba they want is
not a defensive
midfielder but a
box to
box player yet they want him to come and play DM.
We needed a viera type figure to partner with coquelin in the
midfielder, so that we can play Cozorla in a more advanced position And a striker (
not necessarily world class) but one who ticks all the
boxes and his better than average in all key areas.
He is
not a
box 2
box midfielder.
get khedira on a free transfer (yeah I know he's
not a CDM but a
box - to -
box midfielder he'd make good back up for both ramsey and coq) and cava - oh sorry I mean lacazette or reus?!
I am
not sure if I am comfortable with the idea of Coq, Wilshere or Elneny starting there every week as our 2
box to
box midfielders.....
Isn't Khedira a
box to
box midfielder just like Viera was?
This isn't saying Wilshere is better than Ramsey, or that he is our future
box to
box midfielder, but at the moment he is playing better than Ramsey and thus has earned a starting spot.
@TH14atl the list of the players you gave me were players who were naturally central
midfielders but could play in cmf position and you also gave me no 10's who could also play cmf so i do
not get your take.However did you see that they were being played in their best positions.I am also against Ramsey on the wing but i will
not be blinded by the fact that if he should be put in
box to
box role he will be better than santi in that role.But from what you said i think we might just sell cant we.Have you forgotten the man utd match last season where peeps were like O!
As I said after that game, the only reason City were toothless was that they played 2 holding
midfielders that are exactly the same, Fernandinho and Fernando are technically poor and can't create for toffee, but if City had Yaya Toure in that
midfield to absolutely bully the likes of Cazorla, Ramsey and The Coq it would have been a completely different game, City lost that
Box to
Box energy Yaya gives them and that played right into our hand as they were static in
midfield..
Ramsy often drifts inside d
midfield (which increases our possession rate $ ball recovery rate) and
not try to out pace a defender to make a pull - out (dats a typical wing forward) As for ramsy getings goals (he really needs to improve his finishing); wen rambo scored goals for arsenal it was from his natural position -
box 2
box midfield.
But why do you guys keep referring to Xhaka as a DM, he is
not, he is a
box to
box Midfielder.
Arsenal has depth, but it isn't quality squad depth, Rosiscky, Cazorla, Ozil all play the same position and neither of them add a great deal more than the other, our
midfield is stoked but the areas we actually need depth in are barren, we have no solid defensive
midfielder with our usual reliance on a CAM moved back, as a result players like Ramsey and Wilshere who are
box to
box players end up creating more imbalance in an already unbalanced team.
So wait a minute.Are Arsenal looking for a defensive
midfielder or a
box to
box player.I'm really disappointed in Xhaka's defending.He's very good with his long passing but I don't think he's the best option when it comes to
box to
box.In Arsenal he's normally used as the defensive
midfielder particular deep lying playmaker and this actually means that we need someone who is fantastic at attacking and can also do very well defensively so as to compliment for Xhaka's defensive short comings.Ludo Goretzka is very good defensively from the little I've seen but I don't really know much about his attacking qualities.But I also hope Arsenal does
not forget about Mario Lemina.He's a complete
midfielder and to me has the capabilities to be one of Europe's best if given the chance.He can defend very well and attack very well.He's a player Juventus would regret selling.As for Goretzka I know he's very good defensively but have» t seen much of him in terms of attack.If he's as good as in attack I'd sign him.
I think the awards has Wenger's hands somewhere, coz people in their right minds can't even place Ramsey over many average
box to
box midfielders..
He's supposed to be part of a second wall
not the last one and if he hadn't of went off I reckon Leic might of got a two goal lead from an unmarked
midfielder on edge of
box.
Saying he did more than Ramsey shows naivety of football, being a busy fool running with the ball to get dispossessed, collide or fall is
not more than doing your job and getting the ball to the
box which Ramsey quietly did, he was involved in almost every attack going forward from central
midfield.
This is an incredibly difficult question to answer for a variety of reasons, most importantly because over the years our once vaunted «beautiful» style of play has become a shadow of it's former self, only to be replaced by a less than stellar «plug and play» mentality where players play out of position and adjustments / substitutions are rarely forthcoming before the 75th minute... if you look at our current players, very few would make sense in the traditional Wengerian system... at present, we don't have the personnel to move the ball quickly from deep - lying position, efficient one touch
midfielders that can make the necessary through balls or the disciplined and pacey forwards to stretch defences into wide positions, without the aid of the backs coming up into the final 3rd, so that we can attack the defensive lanes in the same clinical fashion we did years ago... on this current squad, we have only 1 central defender on staf, Mustafi, who seems to have any prowess in the offensive zone or who can even pass two zones through so that we can advance play quickly out of our own end (I have seen some inklings that suggest Holding might have some offensive qualities but too early to tell)... unfortunately Mustafi has a tendency to get himself in trouble when he gets overly aggressive on the ball... from our backs out wide, we've seen pace from the likes of Bellerin and Gibbs and the spirited albeit offensively stunted play of Monreal, but none of these players possess the skill - set required in the offensive zone for the new Wenger scheme which requires deft touches, timely runs to the baseline and consistent crossing, especially when Giroud was playing and his ratio of scored goals per clear chances was relatively low (better last year though)... obviously I like Bellerin's future prospects, as you can't teach pace, but I do worry that he regressed last season, which was obvious to Wenger because there was no way he would have used Ox as the right side wing - back so often knowing that Barcelona could come calling in the off - season, if he thought otherwise... as for our
midfielders,
not a single one, minus the more confident Xhaka I watched played for the Swiss national team a couple years ago, who truly makes sense under the traditional Wenger model... Ramsey holds onto the ball too long, gives the ball away cheaply far too often and abandons his defensive responsibilities on a regular basis (doesn't score enough recently to justify): that being said, I've always thought he does possess a little something special, unfortunately he thinks so too... Xhaka is a little too slow to ever boss the
midfield and he tends to telegraph his one true strength, his long ball play: although I must admit he did get a bit better during some points in the latter part of last season... it always made me wonder why whenever he played with Coq Wenger always seemed to play Francis in a more advanced role on the pitch... as for Coq, he is way too reckless at the wrong times and has exhibited little offensive prowess yet finds himself in and around the
box far too often... let's face it Wenger was ready to throw him in the trash heap when injuries forced him to use Francis and then he had the nerve to act like this was all part of a bigger Wenger constructed plan... he like Ramsey, Xhaka and Elneny don't offer the skills necessary to satisfy the quick transitory nature of our old offensive scheme or the stout defensive mindset needed to protect the defensive zone so that our offensive players can remain aggressive in the final third... on the front end, we have Ozil, a player of immense skill but stunted by his physical demeanor that tends to offend, the fact that he's been played out of position far too many times since arriving and that the players in front of him, minus Sanchez, make little to no sense considering what he has to offer (especially Giroud); just think about the quick counter-attack offence in Real or the space and protection he receives in the German National team's
midfield, where teams couldn't afford to focus too heavily on one individual... this player was a passing «specialist» long before he arrived in North London, so only an arrogant or ignorant individual would try to reinvent the wheel and / or
not surround such a talent with the necessary components... in regards to Ox, Walcott and Welbeck, although they all possess serious talents I see them in large part as headless chickens who are on the injury table too much, lack the necessary first - touch and / or lack the finishing flair to warrant their inclusion in a regular starting eleven; I would say that, of the 3, Ox showed the most upside once we went to a back 3, but even he became a bit too consumed by his pending contract talks before the season ended and that concerned me a bit... if I had to choose one of those 3 players to stay on it would be Ox due to his potential as a plausible alternative to Bellerin in that wing - back position should we continue to use that formation... in Sanchez, we get one of the most committed skill players we've seen on this squad for some years but that could all change soon, if it hasn't already of course... strangely enough, even he doesn't make sense given the constructs of the original Wenger offensive model because he holds onto the ball too long and he will give the ball up a little too often in the offensive zone... a fact that is largely forgotten due to his infectious energy and the fact that the numbers he has achieved seem to justify the means... finally, and in many ways most crucially, Giroud, there is nothing about this team or the offensive system that Wenger has traditionally employed that would even suggest such a player would make sense as a starter... too slow, too inefficient and way too easily dispossessed... once again, I think he has some special skills and, at times, has showed some world - class qualities but he's lack of mobility is an albatross around the necks of our offence... so when you ask who would be our best starting 11, I don't have a clue because of the 5 or 6 players that truly deserve a place in this side, 1 just arrived, 3 aren't under contract beyond 2018 and the other was just sold to Juve... man, this is theraputic because following this team is like an addiction to heroin without the benefits
You can't have your two holding
midfield players bombing forward and overlapping the wingers and being in the
box.
Having said that I am also
not a blind believer in Rambo's greatness although I do think he is a very good
box - to -
box midfielder when in form, so I was surprised to say the least to see a Metro report showing that it was the Wales international and
not our German international play maker Mesut Ozil who was included in the shortlist for the UEFA team of the year.
Elneny is a workhorse who does a good job for the team.He is a very handy player to have on the bench because he is so adaptable as he proved the other night against Chelsea.At # 5m he is a steal which can
not be said about Xhaka who is a liability when it comes to defending and lacks mobility to be an effective
box to
box midfielder.
and of course we need to sign a young athletic centre back and the same in
midfield not box to
box a
midfielder that actully love to protect the defence.