Many will say that it would've happened earlier if it wasn't for the broken leg sustained in 2010 but Arsenal fans will be happy that they now have a young box - to -
box midfielder who can make an impact at any time.
In attack, he becomes either the third of the fourth dimension attacker supporting the centre forwards or even the box to
box midfielder who arrives late but finds the spaces restricted by returning defenders.
IMO we should have a strong, physical all action central box - to -
box midfielder who is capable of starting attacks from the deep and defends well to partner with the more attack minded box - to - box midfielder Ramsey.
what else do u want from a box to
box midfielder who scores and assists.
A energetic box - to -
box midfielder who is snappy in the tackle and scores a few goals would be a new option for our midfield and a welcome one, but I don't quite see where Sterling would fit in or whether we'd * need * another small pacey attacker who needs to be browbeaten into tracking back.
He's a box - to -
box midfielder who's always charging upfield.
I will say it again Coquelin is the only true DM arsenal has, Chambers can be converted into a DM also, which i feel would be his most suited position, Xhaka is not really a DM but more a deep lying playmaker with some defensive qualities, cazorla also has that trait, Ramsay, Iwobi and wilshere are actually want to be number 10s, who are considered box to box midfielders but both lack the defensive discilpline, Elneny is our only box to
box midfielder who is very disciplined and Ozil our number 10 who although provides a lot of assist does not provide a goal treat.
We need to buy a solid defensive or a box to
box midfielder who can give our midfield an edge, especially when we are down and fallen!
Ramsey is a typical box to
box midfielder who has got great lungs and plenty of energy to go up and down the pitch.
Gundogan arrives with good pedigree and a fine reputation as a dynamic box - to -
box midfielder who also has the technical qualities to thrive in a Guardiola team.
Kante was the best player on the best team in England this season, the speedy box - to -
box midfielder who unlocked Leicester City's devastating counterattack by defending well and distributing even better.
We have been match up with several midfielders in the press, but none mention are true DM, but merely box to
box midfielders who have the defensive capabilities.
Then there is the cases of Ramsey and Xhaka who are box to
box midfielders who lack positional discipline.
Not exact matches
With 3 at the back we don't need a traditional defensive
midfielder, we need a
box to
box midfielder with strong defensive action
who can link defence and attack and start the play from deep on the field.
From past 3 — 4 seasons I am confused that
who is DM and
who is
box to box midfielder... Earlier it was pretty clear to me... On Just Arsenal everyone has their own DM's and Box to Box midfielde
box to
box midfielder... Earlier it was pretty clear to me... On Just Arsenal everyone has their own DM's and Box to Box midfielde
box midfielder... Earlier it was pretty clear to me... On Just Arsenal everyone has their own DM's and
Box to Box midfielde
Box to
Box midfielde
Box midfielders.
One top defensive
midfielder and one top
box 2
box player
who is good defensively too.
Ramsey is the only player
who makes runs into the
box for us... lf not for him we would pass sideways for hours outside the
box as none others make the runs he does Hes our best
midfielder overall can do everything good and sometimes worldclass but just does nt do enough but
who has @Arsenal.
It's difficult to blame Ozil for the difficulties he's faced at Arsenal without looking at the big picture... like the fans, he too was lied to by Wenger... there is no doubt in my mind that he was told by Wenger that he was trying desperately to recreate our earlier success by acquiring players that fit the system he ran when Henry was in his prime... as we know this hasn't happened... in order for Ozl to flourish he needs some speed up front, forwards that can make intelligent runs, a boss in the
midfield to compensate for his obvious defensive liabilities and defenders
who can transition from defence to offence quickly and efficiently... much like he had in Real and with the German National squad... unfortunately he ended up on a squad that has a striker
who plays with his back to goal, very few intelligent runs into the
box, minus Sanchez, no one to take pressure off him in the
midfield, once Cazorla was injured, average defensive
midfielders around him, which simply highlighted his lacking defensive qualities and defenders
who lack the necessary cutting edge when it comes to transitional passing... instead of blaming Ozil, which is simply too easy, especially considering his mopey disposition, we should be asking ownership and / or Wenger why they brought him in if they didn't intend on doing what was necessary to get the best from him... can you imagine Ozil playing with the likes of Henry, Viera, Petit and Pires, it would be incredibly to watch and even more difficult to stop... so the only thing different between his experiences in Real and with the German team versus his time at Arsenal are the players around him and we all know
who is in charge of making those decisions, the Grinch
who stole soccer
Wenger is the one
who first built that kind of
midfield, powerhouses in the centre
who can run
box to
box while one sits.
And then we have Aaron Ramsey...
who right now looks like our best
midfielder... makes good runs into
box, goal threat, but also loses possession and doesn't track back to defend.....
Khedira is a quality but injury prone
box to
box midfielder, we have someone
who fits that role in diaby.
Ramsay in my view is an attacking MF
who can make runs into the
box and nick goals but lacks discipline in a central
midfield pairing and unless we lose a winger or cm (or perhaps Ozil) is better benched and used as a sub.
We need one
box to
box midfielder and one left winger to replace Sanchez,
who I'm certain is leaving
If Wenger can make Arteta our holding
midfielder he can do the same with Rabiot
who seem to tick all the
boxes — young, technical sound, French and can give us more physical in our
midfield.
Wenger was silly putting Ramsey (
who is attacking
midfielder) and Xhaka (
who is
box to
box, a great player but terrible defensively) in the hold.
He's a bit overrated I must say.I also don't get those
who are asking him to tackle well.The fact is he's not a good tackler.I fear Wenger has made him untouchable in our team such that even if he plays badly he still starts.I mean if people are saying he's not a DM in the first place then is he also a CM?If he's a CM does he have the quality to play along side a DM?These are the questions we need to ask ourselves.If he's a CM then he's good at distributing from deep and also up top but he can't hold thd ball in tight spaces or dribble which is very important.If he's a DM then he simply can't defend.That's why for us to be successful in the long term with him we need a hybrid
midfielder or what I call a defensive
box to
box midfielder.
WE NEED A
MIDFIELD CAPTAIN!!!! Someone
who shouts at the ref when zouma don't get booked someone
who shouts at welbeck and nearly chins him for not squaring the ball to lacazette fans r a tap in someone
who will threaten the linesman when he gave stoke 4 throw ins in a row so that he's to scared to give us offside coz he knows it's onside (corrupt) we don't have a presence just pass pass with no end product and a tiny petty team
who lets defenders push them over in the
box it's boring arsenal bore me and Wenger is the master of boringness conte Jose are what I like coz they have a bit of an edge i wish I could be arsenal so CM captain
Strikers score, defenders defend,
midfield keep the ball and work hard Would rather have a striker
who will gurantee goals than one
who will run the whole pitch and be ineffective in the opposition
box
We needed a viera type figure to partner with coquelin in the
midfielder, so that we can play Cozorla in a more advanced position And a striker (not necessarily world class) but one
who ticks all the
boxes and his better than average in all key areas.
The problem is when you have an average defensive
midfielder then your backline can never be at rest.Coquelin should have started this match.Some people think he's average but I feel he's been played out of position and being tasked with doing too much like a
box to
box player.How can someone
who bases his game on tackling and interception lose that ability all of a sudden and you tell me nothing's wrong but bdcause he's average.Are we fans going to ignore what is plain to us?Let's just pretend things are alright.Then after we win the cracks will be papered only for them to be exposed another day.
Our team is out of balance in a major way, too heavy on
midfield players
who like the ball on their foot and dribble in the middle of the park and too light on true dominant
box to
box midfield leaders and too light on attacking goals scoring wide players and void of a top quality striker.
@TH14atl the list of the players you gave me were players
who were naturally central
midfielders but could play in cmf position and you also gave me no 10's
who could also play cmf so i do not get your take.However did you see that they were being played in their best positions.I am also against Ramsey on the wing but i will not be blinded by the fact that if he should be put in
box to
box role he will be better than santi in that role.But from what you said i think we might just sell cant we.Have you forgotten the man utd match last season where peeps were like O!
This is why I believe we need to buy a better
box - to -
box midfield player or two
who can support a world class striker and 2 true wingers.
Arsenal has depth, but it isn't quality squad depth, Rosiscky, Cazorla, Ozil all play the same position and neither of them add a great deal more than the other, our
midfield is stoked but the areas we actually need depth in are barren, we have no solid defensive
midfielder with our usual reliance on a CAM moved back, as a result players like Ramsey and Wilshere
who are
box to
box players end up creating more imbalance in an already unbalanced team.
Wenger will look to re-ignite talks to bring in the
box to
box performer as he looks to bring in a player
who can add some much needed steel to his
midfield and may look to come up with an offer that could involve the use of a squad player in a part exchange deal with the likes of Marouane Chamakh & Sebastien Squillaci, both with extensive Ligue 1 experience, leading the list of possible candidates.
So wait a minute.Are Arsenal looking for a defensive
midfielder or a
box to
box player.I'm really disappointed in Xhaka's defending.He's very good with his long passing but I don't think he's the best option when it comes to
box to
box.In Arsenal he's normally used as the defensive
midfielder particular deep lying playmaker and this actually means that we need someone
who is fantastic at attacking and can also do very well defensively so as to compliment for Xhaka's defensive short comings.Ludo Goretzka is very good defensively from the little I've seen but I don't really know much about his attacking qualities.But I also hope Arsenal does not forget about Mario Lemina.He's a complete
midfielder and to me has the capabilities to be one of Europe's best if given the chance.He can defend very well and attack very well.He's a player Juventus would regret selling.As for Goretzka I know he's very good defensively but have» t seen much of him in terms of attack.If he's as good as in attack I'd sign him.
While they are very different players from a style perspective, Pogba and Ramsey fulfil a similar
box - to -
box midfielder role, but there is little doubt over
who would be more worth the money.
This is an incredibly difficult question to answer for a variety of reasons, most importantly because over the years our once vaunted «beautiful» style of play has become a shadow of it's former self, only to be replaced by a less than stellar «plug and play» mentality where players play out of position and adjustments / substitutions are rarely forthcoming before the 75th minute... if you look at our current players, very few would make sense in the traditional Wengerian system... at present, we don't have the personnel to move the ball quickly from deep - lying position, efficient one touch
midfielders that can make the necessary through balls or the disciplined and pacey forwards to stretch defences into wide positions, without the aid of the backs coming up into the final 3rd, so that we can attack the defensive lanes in the same clinical fashion we did years ago... on this current squad, we have only 1 central defender on staf, Mustafi,
who seems to have any prowess in the offensive zone or
who can even pass two zones through so that we can advance play quickly out of our own end (I have seen some inklings that suggest Holding might have some offensive qualities but too early to tell)... unfortunately Mustafi has a tendency to get himself in trouble when he gets overly aggressive on the ball... from our backs out wide, we've seen pace from the likes of Bellerin and Gibbs and the spirited albeit offensively stunted play of Monreal, but none of these players possess the skill - set required in the offensive zone for the new Wenger scheme which requires deft touches, timely runs to the baseline and consistent crossing, especially when Giroud was playing and his ratio of scored goals per clear chances was relatively low (better last year though)... obviously I like Bellerin's future prospects, as you can't teach pace, but I do worry that he regressed last season, which was obvious to Wenger because there was no way he would have used Ox as the right side wing - back so often knowing that Barcelona could come calling in the off - season, if he thought otherwise... as for our
midfielders, not a single one, minus the more confident Xhaka I watched played for the Swiss national team a couple years ago,
who truly makes sense under the traditional Wenger model... Ramsey holds onto the ball too long, gives the ball away cheaply far too often and abandons his defensive responsibilities on a regular basis (doesn't score enough recently to justify): that being said, I've always thought he does possess a little something special, unfortunately he thinks so too... Xhaka is a little too slow to ever boss the
midfield and he tends to telegraph his one true strength, his long ball play: although I must admit he did get a bit better during some points in the latter part of last season... it always made me wonder why whenever he played with Coq Wenger always seemed to play Francis in a more advanced role on the pitch... as for Coq, he is way too reckless at the wrong times and has exhibited little offensive prowess yet finds himself in and around the
box far too often... let's face it Wenger was ready to throw him in the trash heap when injuries forced him to use Francis and then he had the nerve to act like this was all part of a bigger Wenger constructed plan... he like Ramsey, Xhaka and Elneny don't offer the skills necessary to satisfy the quick transitory nature of our old offensive scheme or the stout defensive mindset needed to protect the defensive zone so that our offensive players can remain aggressive in the final third... on the front end, we have Ozil, a player of immense skill but stunted by his physical demeanor that tends to offend, the fact that he's been played out of position far too many times since arriving and that the players in front of him, minus Sanchez, make little to no sense considering what he has to offer (especially Giroud); just think about the quick counter-attack offence in Real or the space and protection he receives in the German National team's
midfield, where teams couldn't afford to focus too heavily on one individual... this player was a passing «specialist» long before he arrived in North London, so only an arrogant or ignorant individual would try to reinvent the wheel and / or not surround such a talent with the necessary components... in regards to Ox, Walcott and Welbeck, although they all possess serious talents I see them in large part as headless chickens
who are on the injury table too much, lack the necessary first - touch and / or lack the finishing flair to warrant their inclusion in a regular starting eleven; I would say that, of the 3, Ox showed the most upside once we went to a back 3, but even he became a bit too consumed by his pending contract talks before the season ended and that concerned me a bit... if I had to choose one of those 3 players to stay on it would be Ox due to his potential as a plausible alternative to Bellerin in that wing - back position should we continue to use that formation... in Sanchez, we get one of the most committed skill players we've seen on this squad for some years but that could all change soon, if it hasn't already of course... strangely enough, even he doesn't make sense given the constructs of the original Wenger offensive model because he holds onto the ball too long and he will give the ball up a little too often in the offensive zone... a fact that is largely forgotten due to his infectious energy and the fact that the numbers he has achieved seem to justify the means... finally, and in many ways most crucially, Giroud, there is nothing about this team or the offensive system that Wenger has traditionally employed that would even suggest such a player would make sense as a starter... too slow, too inefficient and way too easily dispossessed... once again, I think he has some special skills and, at times, has showed some world - class qualities but he's lack of mobility is an albatross around the necks of our offence... so when you ask
who would be our best starting 11, I don't have a clue because of the 5 or 6 players that truly deserve a place in this side, 1 just arrived, 3 aren't under contract beyond 2018 and the other was just sold to Juve... man, this is theraputic because following this team is like an addiction to heroin without the benefits
Having said that I am also not a blind believer in Rambo's greatness although I do think he is a very good
box - to -
box midfielder when in form, so I was surprised to say the least to see a Metro report showing that it was the Wales international and not our German international play maker Mesut Ozil
who was included in the shortlist for the UEFA team of the year.
Elneny is a workhorse
who does a good job for the team.He is a very handy player to have on the bench because he is so adaptable as he proved the other night against Chelsea.At # 5m he is a steal which can not be said about Xhaka
who is a liability when it comes to defending and lacks mobility to be an effective
box to
box midfielder.
In regards his form and injuries over the last few years it is easy to understand the clubs and fans frustrations with Ramsey.But he is the ONLY
midfielder we have
who hits the
box and makes runs ahead of the ball.There are very few players in this country with the ability to do this.I have not been his greatest fan over the years but he is a player that NEVER hides and ALWAYS gives his maximum (which is not always apparent with some of his team mates).
We need a
box to
box midfielder that is going to shield the back 4 naturally but is able to push forward, as opposed to Wilshere, Ramsey and Cazorla
who are going to naturally drive forward, but will sit back and shield the middle of the pitch when necessary.
Yes, but it may just look like that on paper as when watching barca in their pomp Xavi would be very much central
midfield whereas Inniesta would be more in beetween a left winger to an edge of
box striker
who is completely adaptable.
For the first time in many years we have a
midfielder in Elneny
who isn't scared to shoot outside of the
box.
Wenger still has to sign a
midfielder preferably a
box to
box who can replace Ramsey as we all know he is injury prone too and Carzola is not around.
Bring in Ospina for Cech; Gabriel for Koscielny (Kos is 31 and its time we start testing Gabriel and Holding beside Mustafi to see what our long term first choice defensive partnership will look like); Gibbs for Monreal (Wenger needs to start rotating these 2 more frequently as we need to ascertain if Gibbs can adequately produce the quality to hold that position from next season for a few years as I'm thinking this might be Nacho's last or penultimate season with Arsenal, it will also give a hint as to the type of Left - back to target in the summer — first teamer or backup and age as well); I'll like to see an Elneny — Xhaka partnership in this fixture as we might just never know, this might be our replica of the Kos Mustafa partnership in the centre of the park, Two disciplined (positionally, i mean) central
midfielders who can play
box to
box; Chamberlain for Iwobi, and Perez for Alexis should do the work.
A powerful
box - to -
box player
who really impressed with Southampton last season, Victor Wanyama is a player with bags of potential
who has been linked with Arsenal in the past and
who looks an ideal fit for the Gunners in
midfield.
It is no accident that when coquelin stepped in the breech arsenal suddenly became more balanced, even the players themselves have been quoted saying something similar, we have been asking for this type of player for years now, a true Defensive
Midfielder, not the flashy type, not the
box to
box, but one
who sits in front the back four and do the ungrateful job.
Part of me hopes we don't get him, we have some good youngsters
who are looking to be decent
box to
box midfielders, I would hope that Wenger can find the next «Gilberto» rather than the next Vieria... as I believe Ramsey can be that guy, he did it last season and just needs to consistantly get it again.
This is why Wenger needs to stop flooding the
midfield with so many playmakers
who do nt want to get in the
box.