It is a sentiment often expressed on this blog and in real life
by believers when they talk about those who think differently going to hell or being doomed by their god.
Also, I have never, implicitly or explicitly, claimed to be a god — that would be totally inconsistent with believing there are no gods, and a straw man claim made
by believers when they can not prove their own delusions.
Not exact matches
«Non-
believers» can sometimes be angry
when fervent
believers believe so very fervently that they insist everybody ELSE believe as fervently as THEY do, and then they want our government to enforce that fervent belief
by making our kids pray in schools to your concept of a god.
If we are true
believers of God and we have to ensure that what we have been believing has been the Truth as ordained
by God and have been doing good we will see at the time of death Heaven the place we are going to, So
when we see heaven our worldly posessions like family, wealth etc go into oblivion and we are not concerned the least about them since what we are now going into will dazzle us so much.
When believers die and go to Heaven, God will be glorified
by his Mercy and Grace.
Out of all the postings on this site today, I found «Derp's «post the most fascinating and informative, as well as deeply revealing.Even after boasting of what seems to be a practically perfect live
by any measure, he informs us that he takes pleasure in mocking and ridiculing those of faith who are presumably his opposite; I can only wonder if, given all his supposed accomplishments, he is smart enough to realize how deeply revealing of his true character his remarks are.As a
believer, I rarely engage in arguments with my atheist friends, and like to think I wouldn't lower myself to the level of juvenile name - calling and personal attacks against whatever my atheist friends hold dear.Most of the time we simply agree to disagree;
when they hold forth with misinformation or ignorance on their assumed «knowledge «of my faith, I try to gently correct them; I certainly don't allow any disagreements we have to devolve into hateful insults and name - calling.
When it comes down to it, I realized that justifying atheism
by saying
believers were wrong is just slaying a strawman.
What are those behaviors that are ONLY demonstrated
by «
believers» that will miraculously be changed & society will no longer deal with,
when they stop believing?
you mean atheists are condescending and mean
when they point out inconstancies and outright lies thrown around
by some
believers like yourself.
Paul taught salvation was a gift of God: Ephesians 2:8, Romans 5:15,16, and 18, 6:23 Paul taught salvation occurred
when you believe the word of truth: Ephesians 1:13 Paul taught salvation was apart from works: Ephesians 2:9, Romans 11:6 Paul taught the
believer is indwelt and sealed
by the Holy Spirit unto the day of redemption: Ephesians 1:13, Ephesians 4:30 Paul taught repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ: Acts 20:21 Paul never taught baptism for salvation 1 Corinthians 1:14 - 17 Paul received his knowledge of the gospel from Jesus Christ: Galatians 1:11 - 12
When we treat it as divine, we encourage the quest for controlling power
by believers.
Suggestions to Christian readers:
When reading about another faith, do not read books written
by Christians, read the ones written
by believers themselves.
Most Convicting (nominated
by Alise Wright): David Nilsen with «Coping with Disappointment
When Calvinists Refuse to Be Jerks» «I think one of the problems with most of us who consider ourselves progressive Christians is that we live in constant expectation of being judged
by our fellow
believers who are more conservative.
The crucifixion of Jesus was marked in Jerusalem on Good Friday
when thousands of Christians attended a service held at a church considered
by some
believers to be where Jesus died and was buried.
As we have seen, he does not demonstrate even to
believers, and even less so
when faced
by unbelief.
However, and quite surprisingly I should add, you might be interested to know the effect your words have upon a
believer in God of forty years, and
by the way I wish to thank you for your words in this province, that
when I read such terse thoughts they have the distinct effect of deepening, in an extraordinary way, my faith and cause me to love and worship God even more than ever.
So sad
when believers try to justify belief
by using false science.
Yet
when religions talk about alternate states of being and planes of existence, they are ridiculed
by believers in «science.»
By all appearances, the crowns will be some sort of actual reward handed out to
believers when Jesus returns again in the future.
The Sanskrit mantras
when translated may be as disappointing as Italian opera in translation — words like wheel, bedpost, bridge and collar abound — but in Sanskrit the mantra claimed
by one's trainer to have the right nuances of sound and meaning for the
believer.
Jeremy thanks for your comments alot of this i never really thought about before until you provoked me to seek the truth in the word it is what we all should be doing finding the truth for ourselves God wants to reveal mysterys if we are open to hear.If we have been christians awhile we just take the word of whoevers preaching or whichever clip we see on god tube its knowledge but not revelation.Because the story sounds plausible we tag that on to our belief for example for many years i believed that the rich young rulers problem was money so the way to deal with that problem is to give it away and be a follower of Jesus sounds plausible.Till you realise every
believers situation is different so the message has to be universal.So the reason its not about money because it excludes those that do nt have it and does nt make room for those that do have it but do nt worship it.The rich young ruler was not a bad person he lived
by a good moral code but he made money his idol he put that before God.The word says we shall not have any idols thats a sin and a wicked one.In fact there wasnt any room in his heart for Jesus that is a tragedy.So
when we see the message is about Idolatry we all have areas that we chose not to submit to God thats universal everyone of us whether we are rich or poor.I believe we are unaware that we have these idols what are some of them that was revealed to me our partners our children our work our church our family i can sense some of you are getting fidgetty.
Personally we should expect persecution
when we are following Jesus and walking
by the spirit Jesus said that as he was persecuted so will we.It may not be to the same extent that other
believers in foreign countries who are losing there lives for there faith.But persecution for righteousness is necessary for us to grow in our faith just as a tree that is buffeted
by winds grows stronger roots.You could call these tests or trails or tribulations or persecutions of a type.What ever comes our way we know that all things work for good to those who love the Lord.brentnz
When I say «I see no evidence for any God / gods and the evidence we do have proves a global flood did not occur as the bible claims» when asked by a believer why I don't believe, it might look very similiar to an anti-theist who is attempting to convince you to quit believing in
When I say «I see no evidence for any God / gods and the evidence we do have proves a global flood did not occur as the bible claims»
when asked by a believer why I don't believe, it might look very similiar to an anti-theist who is attempting to convince you to quit believing in
when asked
by a
believer why I don't believe, it might look very similiar to an anti-theist who is attempting to convince you to quit believing in God.
When you get to the 13th century in The Flowering of Mysticism, the mystical encounter seems to take on a decidedly charismatic expression in which the individual is somehow visibly touched
by the divine — Francis being perhaps the prime example of the
believer who so puts on Christ that he bears Christ's wounds.
When you find yourself in such a situation, Jesus says there is a way for
believers to deal with injustice in our lives, and that is not to get caught up in the trading of hostilities and lawsuits that the rest of the world operates
by.
Concealing the Word of God [2:76] And
when they meet the
believers, they say, «We believe,» but
when they get together with each other, they say, «Do not inform (the
believers) of the information given to you
by GOD, lest you provide them with support for their argument concerning your Lord.
You
believers can keep on being good little hypocrites
by doing all the things you waive your lily white fingers at others
when they do it, then get «absolved» on Dou che bag day, then feel warm and fuzzy knowing that your imaginary friend will still let you into heaven.
John Rawls justified his particular constraints on public discourse in part
by claiming that natural - law theorists («rationalist
believers») deny «the fact of reasonable pluralism»
when giving public reasons.
When the pastor's preaching started to draw hippies into his hitherto traditional church, he saw the opportunity of embracing a new generation of
believers by accommodating their musical preferences, long hair and hippy attire.
... you can claim free will and
by so cover all of the human actions done to the world but how can say that god is real and controls nature
when nature has killed more purely innocent lives then anything in history ever... if god was just and comp@ssinate why send the wave that killed 300 thousand, why create the plague that killed nearly 75 million in the middle ages
when nearly everyone was a VERY devout
believer....
For me,
when I realized that there was a spirituality that was developed
by the early church —
by the same community that wrote the New Testament and would naturally understand it best — and that this spirituality had been practiced unchanged
by believers in every culture and time, I had to be there.
Sarah God forgives you for your actions if you confess it to God he does nt change he still loves you.It is hard but as a
believer we must forgive those who hurt us not for there sake but for ours harbouring anger bitterness and unforgiveness causes us to get sick that is where i believe your mental illness is coming from.Those negative emotions have the power to destroy us if we let them.Only Jesus can help us to forgive
when it hurts so deeply like you are experiencing tell him you cant do it and ask him to help you
by his holy spirit so he can set you free and bring healing and restoration to your life brentnz.
Important here is the difference between life
when sin dominates and
when sin is dominated
by Christ, with whom the
believer is united.
Josiah Royce with a quite different philosophical orientation from Ritschl expressed the same truth
when he described the Church as the community which is sustained
by its memory of the atoning deed of Jesus.21 What is supremely important here is that knowledge of God's forgiveness does not depend upon a private and subjective illumination of the individual
believer alone.
Beside as mentioned how the courts accept non religious to swear taking oath
by the bible
when they are not
believers?
Jeremy i am surprised you never countered my argument Up till now the above view has been my understanding however things change
when the holy spirit speaks.He amazes me because its always new never old and it reveals why we often misunderstand scripture in the case of the woman caught in adultery.We see how she was condemned to die and
by the grace of God Jesus came to her rescue that seems familar to all of us then
when they were alone he said to her Go and sin no more.This is the point we misunderstand prior to there meeting it was all about her death
when she encountered Jesus something incredible happened he turned a death situation into life situation so from our background as sinners we still in our thinking and understanding dwell in the darkness our minds are closed to the truth.In effect what Jesus was saying to her and us is chose life and do nt look back that is what he meant and that is the walk we need to live for him.That to me was a revelation it was always there but hidden.Does it change that we need discipline in the church that we need rules and guidelines for our actions no we still need those things.But does it change how we view non
believers and even ourselves definitely its not about sin but its all about choosing life and living.He also revealed some other interesting things on salvation so i might mention those on the once saved always saved discussion.Jeremy just want to say i really appreciate your website because i have not really discussed issues like this and it really is making me press in to the Lord for answers to some of those really difficult questions.regards brentnz
You are right about being the Children of Israel and of Ismael out of which came the Jews and the non Jews who you reffered here to
by Arabs... The tale of the Books that there will be wars and finally at Jerusalem between two groups consisting of «
Believers» who would recognize and believe in Jesus
when he returns they are of «Jews / Christians / Muslims» and the second group are the «Non
Believers» who wouldn't recognize or believe in Jesus
when he returns they are of «Jews / Christians / Muslims»....
In my case (Christian) it was God who
by miracle (unexplained event to non
believer) put a Bible in my hand just
when I needed it.
Am I not supposed to hate it
when a man abuses his child, or
when a person is overcome
by addiction, or
when believers tear each other down?
When religious leaders like the Ayatollah Khomeini or Meir Kahane propose to run a country strictly
by what they understand to be God's revealed word, and hence to do so undemocratically, most American
believers become deeply troubled.
The achievements in the area of social justice, initiated
by the socio - political activism of people such as Nelson Mandella, and Dr. Martin Luther King Jr, attest to the fact that God is present and
when political activism, in the area of social justice is being carried out
by Believers.
I've been warned
by more people than I can count that if I don't say just the right thing, if I don't toe the party line
when it comes to sexuality, I could lose speaking engagements, book deals, readers, even fellowship with other
believers.
Do you believe
when Jesus said «turn the other cheek» he was referring to being constantly slapped down
by your fellow
believers — you know, the ones who are to be maturing and new creations in Christ?
Even the best
believer is still just as human as you, they have the same nature and
when they are led
by the old nature they are as capable of the same behavior as any human.
By undertaking to learn the languages of others and to communicate in their idioms, missionaries became their own first converts, providing an example of what might be involved
when prospective
believers saw their idioms had also become the idioms of outsiders.
Jeff: This is what causes division as we go about doing even good things, out of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil to set up another sect out of our carnal nature; above is the outcome; Jesus came to cause division among men that tries to become their own god and sets up camp, even for them that call themselves Christian, for them that have went from Him and His Words, even that are not of His Spirit: Jesus said; the Words that I speak are Spirit and Life, That means the Words of man can only bring forth death: Therefore; if we do not have His Spirit in us, then we too can only speak forth death: This is what it is to be a
believer, we truly believe our Lord: I can see what the Catholic church and her daughters are doing to form a religious Babylonian city: Even as God caused a division in Babylon in the past because the peoples became great, so to is it now with all of the man made sects of religion: But
when we are filled with the Spirit of God then we can not help but to live for God: It is written; those who are led
by His spirit are His children: Thank - you Jeff: Those who are of His Spirit will know these truths, those who are not of His Spirit truly believe a
believer is as they and can not know what we speak, because they live in unbelief: Thank - you again Jeff; In Jesus Name Alexandria: P.S..
For instance,
when Revelation talks about the unsaved being cannibalized
by the
believers in Jesus, it is referring to the guilt that is on our hands if we do not strive to convert our friends to the faith.
And
when the particular answer the
believer had in mind does not eventuate, then that which actually happened is interpreted
by him as the answer God chose to give.
But it still bothers you
when others around you are happy, saved
by Jesus
believers, yet you're all bitter in your unbelief.
They have simply realized that they can not grow to maturity in Christ
when they are being led
by weak and immature
believers with diplomas who act in many of the ways that you have expressed.