No Abraham nor any of the other patriarchs practiced
child sacrifice as you said.
How is it moral to look to
a child sacrifice as redemption of the sins of people not even yet born?
Not exact matches
The Amalekites
as you recall offered live
sacrifice of infants and
children into the red hot bronze arms of their fertility god while they danced and had orgies.
I agree with your post, Mr. Stephens — insofar
as I believe that a cobbled - together patchwork of Bronze Age myths that sanction slavery, genocide, human
sacrifice, and
child murder should not be arbitrarily invoked
as the sole determinate for notions of morality in the modern world.
Self - important simpletons commonly hate anyone that isn't bound to the «moral» standards of verses such
as Leviticus 20:13 which commands putting people to death that are not within the primitive social norms of living in caves and
sacrificing goats and
children and owning slaves.
Jeremiah even rails against
child sacrifices to other gods by the Jews
as a reason for the Babylonian Captivity.
The New Testament values of faithfulness, love,
sacrifice and promise - based commitment can be practiced by heterosexual couples without
children — and by same - sex couples
as well.
Did they kill the women and boys because of the known $ exual immorality and associated disease that riddled these tribes that offered their
children as human
sacrifice and $ ex toys?
Too much —
as parents seek to reproduce themselves in their
children, feverishly seek
children «of their own,» and try
as much
as possible to protect those
children from all experience of suffering and
sacrifice.
The archeological evidence in Palestine reveals with pitiful adequacy the common
sacrifice of little
children as offerings to the gods.
(Jeremiah 7:31; 19:5; 32:35) In the next generation Ezekiel tried another apologetic: granting both that the command to
sacrifice children was in the Law,
as it obviously was, and that Yahweh was responsible for its presence there, he asserted none the less that; Yahweh had given «statutes that were not good, and ordinances wherein they should not live,» for the ultimate purpose of punishing them with such desolation that they might recognize the divine hand in their tragedy.
(Leviticus 19:2; cf. 20:26; 21:18) Along with moral commands against such evils
as child sacrifice, adultery, and sexual perversion are detailed injunctions concerning ceremonial observances, reminiscent of the old taboos.
But he is no zealot, eager to practice
child -
sacrifice or insensitive to the horror involved; this we learn from the austere, steady, and dignified way he proceeds,
as indicated by the simplicity, compactness, and austerity of the verbs used to recount his actions: He arose, saddled (his ass), took (two youths with him and Isaac his son), cleaved (wood for the burnt - offering), rose up and went.
She expresses her resentment over what she sees
as her
children's lack of gratitude for all her hard work and
sacrifice (Grandma 6).
Jeebus has inflicted a Black president on the cult
as punishment for not
sacrificing enough unborn
children.
It the region where people with albinism are killed for sake of richness (belief), it is the region where people
sacrifice even their
children so
as to get gold or diamond and its the region where the main trucks from Dar es Salaam to Rwanda, Burundi, Uganda and DRC pass across, thus high rates of HIV / AIDS.
1 Corinthians 11:14 (Men should not have long hair) 1 Corinthians 14:34 - 35 (Women should remain silent in church) Deuteronomy 13:6 - 16 (Death penalty for Apostasy) Deuteronomy 20:10 - 14 (Attack city, kill all men, keep women,
children as spoils of war) Deuteronomy 21:18 - 21 (Death penalty for a rebellious son) Deuteronomy 22:19 - 25 (Kill non - virgin / kill adulterers / rapists) Ecclesiastes 1:18 (Knowledge is bad) Exodus 21:1 - 7 (Rules for buying slaves) Exodus 35:2 (Death for working on the Sabbath) Ezekiel 9:5 - 6 (Murder women /
children) Genesis 1:3,4,5,11,12,16 (God creates light, night and day, plants grow, before creating sun) Genesis 3:16 (Man shall rule over woman) Jeremiah 19:9 (Cannibalism) John 3:18 (He who believes in Jesus is saved, he that doesn't is condemned) John 5:46 - 47 (Jesus references Old Testament) Leviticus 3:1 - 17 (Procedure for animal
sacrifice) Leviticus 19:19 (No mixed fabrics in clothing) Leviticus 19:27 (Don't trim hair or beard) Leviticus 19:28 (No tattoos) Leviticus 20:9 (Death for cursing father or mother) Leviticus 20:10 (Death for adultery) Leviticus 20:13 (Death for gay men) Leviticus 21:17 - 23 (Ugly people, lame, dwarfs, not welcome on altar) Leviticus 25:45 (Strangers can be bought
as slaves) Luke 12:33 (Sell your possessions, and give to the poor) Luke 14:26 (You must hate your family and yourself to follow Jesus) Mark 10:11 - 12 (Leaving your spouse for another is adultery) Mark 10:21 - 22 (Sell your possessions and give to the poor) Mark 10:24 - 25 (Next to impossible for rich to get into heaven) Mark 16:15 - 16 (Those who hear the gospel and don't believe go to hell) Matthew 5:17 - 19 (Jesus says he has come to enforce the laws of the Old Testament) Matthew 6:5 - 6 (Pray in secret) Matthew 6:18 (Fast for Lent in secret) Matthew 9:12 (The healthy don't need a doctor, the sick do) Matthew 10:34 - 37 (Jesus comes with sword, turns families against each other, those that love family more than him are not worthy) Matthew 12:30 (If you're not with Jesus, you're against him) Matthew 15:4 (Death for not honouring your father and mother) Matthew 22:29 (Jesus references Old Testament) Matthew 24:37 (Jesus references Old Testament) Numbers 14:18 (Following generations blamed for the sins of previous ones) Psalms 137:9 (Violence against
children) Revelation 6:13 (The stars fell to earth like figs) Revelation 21:8 (Unbelievers, among others, go to hell) 1 Timothy 2:11 - 12 (Women subordinate and must remain silent) 1 Timothy 5:8 (If you don't provide for your family, you are an infidel)
This valley in Israel was a place where people burned their
children to death
as sacrifices to the gods.
ScottK: So what you are saying is that since the Jews prohibited their people from following the tradition of the Ammonites (burning their
children as a
sacrifice to their god Molech) that somehow lets people like Bin Laden off the hook for killing, burning and maiming thousands of innocent people?
Therefore, if people think they can willfully go on sinning and the
sacrifice of Jesus on the cross covers them, they are sadly mistaken, But if we sin (on purpose) out of weakness and imperfection then
as 1 John writes, «My little
children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin.
We also understood,
as children, that if such an act created two or three Christians then it was noble and worthy
as well
as the greatest
sacrifice.
Just today in Philadelphia we had another priest / monsignor indicted for molesting little
children and / or covering it up, and we need to share the «
sacrifice», I mean we need to share the burden of the legal bills and financial settlements to keep it
as quiet
as possible.»
As we read in Ephesians 5:1 - 2, «Be imitators of God, as beloved children, and live in love, as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us, a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God.&raqu
As we read in Ephesians 5:1 - 2, «Be imitators of God,
as beloved children, and live in love, as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us, a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God.&raqu
as beloved
children, and live in love,
as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us, a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God.&raqu
as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us, a fragrant offering and
sacrifice to God.»
In fact, we might see Eid Al Ahda and Rosh Hashanah
as far more advanced than the rest of the world precisely because these holidays call to consciousness this repressed but real tendency to pass on the pain that was done to us onto our
children, and to remind us that the great spiritual leader Abraham was able to NOT DO IT, thereby giving us the message that we too need not
sacrifice our
children either actually by supporting the war machine or symbolically by passing onto them various other forms of hurt, oppression and cruelty.
The Morozov cult was not quite
as horrifying
as the worship of Moloch, the dreadful Carthaginian deity who required fiery
child sacrifice.
The question that Atheist, such
as yourself have asked many times... if God commanded you to
sacrifice your
child, would you?
We must be
as children — don't overthink it — and yet we are trained to strain and labour and pain — not
sacrifice, but suffer.
Other cultures have
sacrificed children and eaten people
as part of their culture and not part of their religion.
The great achievements of the Hebrew prophets, from one point of view, were their insistence that God is not to be approached in this external fashion and their success in securing a general consent by the Jewish people to the proposition that «the
sacrifices of God are a troubled spirit» — that God wishes the offering to Him of the whole life of His people, both
as individuals and
as a group, not for His own glorification but rather so that He might effectively use them for the accomplishment of great ends: the redemption of the world and the opening of rich life for His
children.
As a parent, I read the passage with even wider eyes — imagine being asked to
sacrifice your
child, the beloved gift that you have waited for all of your life.
Patterson goes so far
as to compare women who choose not to have
children to the people who practiced
child sacrifice in the Bible!
Lev 18:21 «Do not permit any of your
children to be offered
as a
sacrifice to Molech, for you must not bring shame on the name of your God.
Ephesians 5:1 - 2 «Be imitators of God, therefore,
as dearly loved
children and live a life of love, just
as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us
as a fragrant offering and
sacrifice to God.»
And the same is true of the popular use of the word «
sacrifice»,
as when a mother dies for her
child or a soldier on the field of battle.
The notion that man must surrender his dearest possession on earth to his deity — the supreme instance is that of
child sacrifice — is so fundamental that it can not be dismissed
as mythology.
Is it in fact the case that I may
sacrifice my present interest, genuinely
sacrifice it, for the sake of a future ten or twenty years from now, and that it is impossible that I
sacrifice my interest, just
as genuinely, for the sake of my
child's happiness a moment hence?
In extreme straits, Ahaz reverts to the crude rite, persistently condemned in prophetic Yahwism, of
child sacrifice, and offers up his own son
as a burnt offering (I Kings 16:3).
I have always believed the Roman stories of Carthaginian
child sacrifice, but many scholars dismissed these stories
as mere propaganda.
The near -
sacrifice of Isaac can be viewed
as child abuse in modern eyes, but Fretheim notes that Isaac's questions show both his and Abraham's unwavering trust in God.
Commemoration recitals take place not only on the birthday of the Prophet but also on other occasions such
as the annual commemoration of the death of one's parents, or at the time of the hair -
sacrifice of one's
child, or on the night before a boy's circumcision, or the night before a marriage ceremony.
And these
children are the same people who
as adults will be called upon to make enormous
sacrifices to support China's growing ranks of the elderly — for not only is China graying, it is doing it faster than any population in history.
As the King's account also reports of his grandfather Ahaz (in II 16:3), Manasseh reverted to
child sacrifice (II 21:6); and, also like Ahaz, he introduced, no doubt under the guise of what continued to pass for Yahweh worship and the Yahweh cult, extraneous practices denoting Judah's subservience to Assyria.
Similarly today, we
sacrifice our
children through abortion and neglect
as we strive after success in business and the next big promotion.
For many parents, the outcome of this process is the ultimate assessment of how they have performed
as caregivers and how their
children have repaid them for the
sacrifices, efforts, and investments they have made over the years.
All of a sudden, the very same act that was lauded when it was framed
as a
sacrifice becomes a horrible way to put your
child at risk (cause babies need optional pain meds to be born, I guess?)
Parenting needs a lot of
sacrifices as well
as the determination of giving your
child the best that you can afford.
As a culture, we seem to operate under the misguided notion that attachment - style parenting is one in which parents — and particularly mothers —
sacrifice their lives entirely for the good of their
children, and compete over who can breastfeed the longest and make the most nutritious baby food.
I'm distressed that any woman would consider
sacrificing the life of her
child for bragging rights, but I'm appalled that someone whose baby is actually dead
as the result of her selfishness and self - absorption would go on being self - absorbed.
Their
sacrifices tend to be more focused on the family
as a whole and less on individual
children.
Parenthood is, very simply, a beautiful
sacrifice that mothers and fathers willingly and lovingly live for their
children, day after day, night after night,
as a reflection of the
sacrifice Jesus made for his
children on the Cross.