The ancient
church traditions seem better geared to deal with all stages, and may even encourage them.
A number of people outside of the peace
church tradition seem to be quite interested in what these pacifists are saying and doing.
Not exact matches
The response from my «contemporary
church» friends
seemed to indicate an embarrassment that anything we do reeks of predictability or
tradition.
And so, to the pastor of a very traditional
church, maintaining the look and feel of the
traditions can
seem almost as important as the reason these patterns exist.
Understanding this new perspective on
church is as difficult today as it was in the days of Jesus for Jews to understand a different perspective on Sabbath, but the basic principles seem to be the same: Church, just like Sabbath, is not supposed to be a bunch of human traditions which have become legalistic laws by which to judge one another's spiritual mat
church is as difficult today as it was in the days of Jesus for Jews to understand a different perspective on Sabbath, but the basic principles
seem to be the same:
Church, just like Sabbath, is not supposed to be a bunch of human traditions which have become legalistic laws by which to judge one another's spiritual mat
Church, just like Sabbath, is not supposed to be a bunch of human
traditions which have become legalistic laws by which to judge one another's spiritual maturity.
Many of us, myself included, are finding ourselves increasingly drawn to high
church traditions - Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy, the Episcopal Church, etc. - precisely because the ancient forms of liturgy seem so unpretentious, so unconcerned with being «cool,» and we find that refreshingly auth
church traditions - Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy, the Episcopal
Church, etc. - precisely because the ancient forms of liturgy seem so unpretentious, so unconcerned with being «cool,» and we find that refreshingly auth
Church, etc. - precisely because the ancient forms of liturgy
seem so unpretentious, so unconcerned with being «cool,» and we find that refreshingly authentic.
For the
tradition of Jesus» sayings has been purged of all traces of the
Church's kerygma, and therefore could
seem of little value in comparing Jesus with the kerygma.
Perhaps it
seems odd to you to approach the Bible this way, but in many ways, this method of reading the Bible is actually similar to the way the black
church tradition has read the Bible (especially Exodus).
The author contrasts an ancient abbey with its
traditions, history and rootedness, to the modern American megachurch without
tradition, culture or weighted worship, to an ecological sound, modern, high - tech, all thought out community but where the state
church seems of little consequence, yet in this latter place the gospel
seemed to make more sense.
The
church therefore would
seem to have much to offer the New Urbanist enterprise out of its own long intellectual and spiritual
traditions — not least a serious and sophisticated view of human nature and human community, a pastoral mandate to serve rich and poor, and a long history of urban and architectural patronage.
Such a defense
seems to come down to this: the local
church is preserved from suffocating provincialism when it intentionally engages in dialogue with other
churches and when it remains steadfast in appropriating and witnessing to the «apostolic
tradition.»
The existence of an old local
tradition and of families whose ancestry
seems ancient and indigenous, rather than of foreign immigrant trading stock, are factors which suggest the possibility of an early evangelist in the country, but the dependence of all
traditions on the Edessene
Church prevents us considering those factors conclusive proof that this early evangelist was St. Thomas.
«Whereas evangelical
churches (and increasing numbers of mainline ones) seek to attract young people by designing spaces stripped of Christian symbols or
tradition, JW people
seem to like the traditional feel of the sanctuary, with its dark wood, stained glass and high ceilings.
The heavy reliance on its own internal historical memory may
seem to imply that Christianity is just another esoteric religion, accessible only to a group of insiders There is, of course, a certain insider's perspective in any faith
tradition, but it would be contrary to the inclusive character of Christianity to interpret our belonging to a
Church community as though it were a position of privilege that separates us from those not so gifted.
The early
church, then, may have suppressed theological
traditions that
seemed to make room for ecstasy and prophecy.
I often hear from women who feel called to preach but can not
seem to find support or resources within their
churches or communities of faith or
traditions.
So it
seems all the more difficult to accept the Bible as authoritative just because somebody —
tradition or the early
Church — says so, when in fact these somebodies did not know as much about the Bible's history and background and diverse elements as we do today.
Especially with questions like «what is
Church» and a myraid of other issues... It
seems that our back grounds form a lot of our
traditions and beliefs.
Tim i found it liberating to just do what the Lord wants you to do i work within his boundarys and yes i attend
church and enjoy it.I love the people and i love hearing the word and worshipping the Lord even if others are still bound up with
traditions thats not my walk thats theres.My focus is to do what the Lord wants me to do.There have been times i have said no to the pastor he does nt understand why i choose not to lead the worship.i query him as well regarding the idea that its not just performing a function because there is a need our hearts have to be in the right place so that the Lord can use us but he did nt understand where i was coming from and thats okay because of that i just said no until my heart is right i am better not being involved in leading.But i am happy to be an encouragement to others in the worship team i havent wanted to be the leader i have done that in the past.So my focus has been just the singing and being part of different worship teams i think the Lord has other plans as the groups i am in
seem to be changing at the same time i am aware that i do nt to worry about change as the Lord knows whats best.I used to be quite comfortable leading the music but that was before when i was operating in my own self confidence and pride.The Lord did such a huge change in my life that i lost my self confidence and that is not a bad thing at all as my spiritual growth has been incredible.The big change was my identity moved from me and what i could do to knowing who i was in Christ and that he is my strength and confidence.Now i know that without him i can do nothing in fact i am dependent on his empowerment through his holy spirit all the time in everything.In the weekend i was asked to lead the music at another
church i attend multiple
churchs although i attend two regularly one has services in the morning and one has services in the evening so the two do nt really clash.In the weekend i was asked to lead the music its been two years since i did that and i was worried on how i would go.All i can say is that it went really well and because i stepped out in Faith the Lord really blessed the morning to the congregation.The difference is knowing that i serve the Lord with the gifts he has given me but my heart has to be right and when i do it in his way it builds up the body and it brings glory to him.May the Lord continue to show you what he wants you to do even though others may not understand your reasons i just want you to know that you do nt have to pull away completely just work within the boundarys that the Lord gives you and do nt feel pressured by others expectations to do anything that feel uncomfortable.Be involved just as you feel lead by the holy spirit even if it is in a very minor way take small steps.regards brentnz
Mr. Benne must have neglected his lessons in
church history, as he seems unaware that the catholic tradition of ecclesiology, which is quite enthusiastic about ecclesial life, has always resisted the elitism prominent in schismatic renderings of the C
church history, as he
seems unaware that the catholic
tradition of ecclesiology, which is quite enthusiastic about ecclesial life, has always resisted the elitism prominent in schismatic renderings of the
ChurchChurch.
If I understand our
traditions in the Christian
church, it
seems to me that we make the claim that God reveals himself in concrete events, and that these events are not to be taken lightly.
Among the various longer - range challenges facing
church music in the «90s, four
seem to be occupying center stage: the challenge of providing
church musicians in sufficient numbers to meet the needs of parishes throughout the land in almost every denomination; the continued search for musical roots in many denominations; the ongoing debate between those advocating the worship and musical
tradition of the
church catholic and those advocating a variety of trendy fads; and the impact of pragmatism and consumerism in determining worship practice and musical style and substance.
She goes on: «No one
seemed to notice that it was financed by a conservative Mississippi company affiliated with the Roman Catholic
Church and founded, as its «mission statement» puts it, to «present the values of the Judeo Christian
tradition.»
«After a century of intense theological activity, the
churches in most places
seem no closer to unity,» reports Alan Falconer, the director of the Faith and the Order Commission of the WCC to a major meeting in Tanzania.32 Konrad Raiser, the General Secretary of the WCC, has called on the main Christian
traditions — the Orthodox, Roman Catholic, Protestant and Pentecostal
churches — to start preparations in the year 2000 for «a universal
church council to reconcile the main issues, including the authority of the Pope.»
It will be seen that it is negative so far as the teaching of Jesus is concerned, but that it does
seem to offer promise as an avenue of approach to the whole problem of the formation of christological
traditions in the early
Church.
But Cornwell always did have the gift of being intensely irritating to many who love the
Church, of mounting violent assaults, often at first effectively, against the most seemingly unassailable bulwarks of the Catholic
tradition, in a way which has sometimes made him
seem a real threat.
In his first lecture Dulles notes that there has been a blindness to the missionary imperative of the Second Vatican Council, and reminds us that the Council in line with
tradition calls for all people to be evangelised, and reminds us that sadly many within the
Church «know a good many doctrines of the
Church but
seem never to have encountered the living Christ».
What is especially intriguing, moreover, is the observable convergence of these essays, despite incidental disagreements and the very different strata of Christian
tradition on which they draw, towards a point of intersection that is difficult to describe but
seems to be very near the heart of the mystery whose herald and sign the historic
church has claimed to be.
Perhaps also details were added and varied in the pre-Markan stage of the
tradition in accordance with the allegorizing in the
Church now to be found in Mark 4.13 - 20 par., but this does not
seem likely.