Whereas most
churches have treated me as a liability, this one treated me as an asset.
Carol do you mean this is how
the church has treated the (former) attendee, or this is the attitude of the (former) congregant?
I've spoken at several events for Christian teens in my travels, and let me tell you, to a person, they find anti-gay bullying abhorrent and are very concerned with how
the Church has treated their gay friends.
By and large, those on both sides of this debate — including those on the conservative side — acknowledge that the way
the Church has treated gay people has been horrific...
Yet
the Church has treated performance as «dangerous» and «dirty,» and therefore has traditionally pushed it out of the center of its purview.
Not exact matches
Trey — I
would have a very hard time attending a
church where Cindy and I weren't recognized as a couple,
treated as a couple, and not only free, but comfortable and even encouraged, to be ourselves, just like any other couple in the
church.
Yet I STILL
would treat people better then this priest did (and as discussed below, I actually blame him mor ethan the
church).
I get from David's cartoon that there are 4 distinct classes of women who
have been
treated badly by the bigotry so prevalent in the Christian
Church.
If the
Church had had it's way we
'd still be
treating women as second class citizens and all of you Christians
would not own a bible but rather
would have to go to the
Church to hear what it
had to say on the matter.
Which must mean they are wrong to
treat me in such manner because if I haven't done anything to bring about
church discipline, yet they
treat me like I
've been brought all the way through the process, then they are wrong.
To accept gay marriage as a genuine expression of marriage — and to
treat it as such in the parish office, even if we could then keep it out of the parish
church —
would be vastly more destructive than accepting divorce (which
has been bad).
Their hospitals
have not attempted to be at the forefront in
treating it, and indeed some in Africa
have been cavalier in their use of untested blood for transfusions; American members who
have contracted the disease
have often been shunned; and African
church leaders
have assumed that AIDS is not an issue affecting Adventists.
It
has become so now that many LGBT people are «automatically» atheist as a result of how
church members are
treating them.
He added the
Church had «failed to engage in a process which
would also give proper consideration to the rights of the Bishop» and that «such rights should not be
treated as
having been extinguished on death».
What is less clear to me is why complementarians like Keller insist that that 1 Timothy 2:12 is a part of biblical womanhood, but Acts 2 is not; why the presence of twelve male disciples implies restrictions on female leadership, but the presence of the apostle Junia is inconsequential; why the Greco - Roman household codes represent God's ideal familial structure for husbands and wives, but not for slaves and masters; why the apostle Paul's instructions to Timothy about Ephesian women teaching in the
church are universally applicable, but his instructions to Corinthian women regarding head coverings are culturally conditioned (even though Paul uses the same line of argumentation — appealing the creation narrative — to support both); why the poetry of Proverbs 31 is often applied prescriptively and other poetry is not; why Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob represent the supremecy of male leadership while Deborah and Huldah and Miriam are mere exceptions to the rule; why «wives submit to your husbands» carries more weight than «submit one to another»; why the laws of the Old Testament are
treated as irrelevant in one moment, but important enough to display in public courthouses and schools the next; why a feminist reading of the text represents a capitulation to culture but a reading that turns an ancient Near Eastern text into an apologetic for the post-Industrial Revolution nuclear family is not; why the curse of Genesis 3
has the final word on gender relationships rather than the new creation that began at the resurrection.
There is no way I
would again attend a
church that does not, in practice,
treat women as peer - humans, and the Emergence movement as ended my long search for it.
The Mormon
church has always
treated homosexual relations as wrongful conduct, and already classed them with fornication and adultery as offenses calling for discipline.
It's also important for those of us who
have grown weary of being
treated like second - class Kingdom citizens to be reminded of the fact that there are indeed many Christian men out there who support and celebrate women in the
Church.
Furthermore, from the Christian sight, a man, which
has become a leader of a heretical
church is to
treat harsh, in order to show him that something is wrong.
Wherever we find the whole
church has expressed its shared understanding, we
treat what is said as authoritative.
I
've wept as close friends slowly distanced themselves from me and well - meaning
church people
treated me like a project — someone to pray about, gossip about, and fix.
Sadly, I
've seen how the Fox
church people
treat compassionate Christian moderates on an ordinary day, so it won't be too much of a fight.
but the government
has every right and ability to
treat the
church the same as every other employer and require tehm to provide to their employees teh same benefits as all other employers.
The girl
had to be
treated in hospital for her injuries after an assault allegedly took place in the grounds of All Saints
Church in Burton - upon - Trent, Staffordshire, on January 23.
Where the
church has failed is not in its high standard of fidelity, but in its tendency to
treat sex as incidental to the fulfilment of marriage, or as at best a minor element in fulfillment.
During the Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse (IICSA), one person who gave evidence was asked how the
church can deal with the abuse of power and replied: «It needs to stop squelching discussion, it
has a way of crushing people when they try to speak and it needs to
treat people as adults not children.»
Very seldom
has anyone within a local
church treated it as a field of study and reported out its patterns of culture because they constitute an important disclosure of the symbolic nature of the group.
The first chapter gives a brief overview of the history of psychiatry, beginning in ancient Greece, describing how mental illness
has been regarded and
treated through the ages; along the way, it debunks the myth that the early
Church saw all mental illness as diabolic.
We also
have examples of how missionaries
have taken along with them the Western family pattern, identifying it with Christianity, and
treating people living in polygamous societies mainly with
church discipline.
During the war itself the
Churches faced a problem that accompanied them until the present day — what were they to do with the Negroes who
had been so unjustly
treated for almost two centuries?
Hundreds of
churches across the UK take part by handing out empty shoeboxes and collecting those which
had been filled with
treats.
I agree with the article and
would add that one category that is missing: the way
church leaders
treat their people in terms of allowing them to serve in ministries.
Stormed into my house and
treated me abominably because I
had not been to
church..
This discussion is turning into a real mess... but no wonder the «
church people»
have acted the way they do, if this is how discussions are
treated.
I applaud their decision to stay true to their vows when the
Church they
have dedicated their life to serve
treats them in such an unchristian manner.
«You can't
have a
church where we're all supposed to be one in Christ and then
treat women as if it's the faulty half of creation,» she told CNN Sunday.
That constitutes, according to the fathers of the
Church, the special dignity of human beings, and it should
have been
treated by Jenson in the section on «human personhood.»
That said, keep you mouth shut when your Christian brother or sister don't
have that same conviction and decide they want to take their kids out to get some candy, or head over to their
churches «Trunk or
Treat» celebration.
If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the
church; and if they refuse to listen even to the
church,
treat them as you
would a pagan or a tax collector» (my italics).
This
has opened my eyes to how victims are typically
treated, the cult - of - personality error that is rampant in
churches, and other issues.
No matter what organization he belongs to, there is no one who feeds more hungry, houses more poor,
treats more sick, educates more children than the Catholic
church and we
've been doing it longer than any one else on the planet.
Perhaps the cardinal was suggesting that Amoris Laetitia asked all the people of the
Church to
treat those who
have not been married in the
Church but who wish to be part of the Catholic community with greater sensitivity and charity (a worthy proposal, although compassion is the norm in the situations with which I'm most familiar).
At this
church, here is how the Trunk - or -
Treat worked: They
had about fifty cars in the parking lot all of them weare covered by a cheap van insurance, and at about half of them, you
had to stand in a line for about 10 minutes while kids played little games.
I feel the
Church treats God The Father and God The Son and God The Holt Spirit like an aging relative who
has gone a bit deaf and daft, so we placate them as there may be an inheritance coming our way in the not to distant future.
I think many of us are so programmed by the
church to feel guilt constantly about our very being, that we
have trouble
having the dignity of saying, «Yes, I am worth being
treated well by others.»
Truth be told... others
would call me critical, and negative and cynical, but my heart bursts for the
church, I just wish leaders
would realize how mistaken we
have been to
treat the
church so much like an organization and a business rather than allowing it to grow and be nurtured as we
would a child!
But women
have been
treated as second - class, in the
church as well as everywhere else, including our marriage.
A few paragraphs later Cardinal Dulles laments that «the greatest threat to religion, in my estimation, is the kind of secularism that
would exclude religion from the public forum and that
treats churches as purely private institutions that
have no rightful influence on legislation, public policy, and other dimensions of public life.»
If taken by themselves, some of these verses indicate that the apostle deviated from Jesus» example and
had a bias against women, and even suggested that women should be
treated as second - class Christians — submissive to their husbands, attired and coifed demurely and silent in
church.
Luke Timothy Johnson's basic response to scholarly research on the historical Jesus is embarrassment on behalf of the
Church: embarrassment that Christ's own followers
would treat him as a dead figure of history who can be understood only through strictly rational methods of inquiry, barring faith and hope from
having their say.