For example, the existing global
circulation models do not adequately describe the water cycle in the Amazon, with the modeled moisture convergence being half the actual amounts estimated from the observed runoff values.
Relevant text from the AR4 Chapter 8: «Atmosphere - Ocean General
Circulation Models do not seem to have difficulty in simulating IPO - like variability... [T] here has been little work evaluating the amplitude of Pacific decadal variability in AOGCMs.
So lets see, the global
circulation models do not handle thunderstorms, or clouds in general, well, The particulates and aerosols interact with the clouds, but are not handled well either.
Oddly Trenberth 2015 argued we should separate analyses of those most useful dynamics and focus on thermodynamics (temperature) because CO2 forced
circulation models do a very poor job of simulating those critical dynamic changes.
On the matter of the role of condensation nuclei, a few general
circulation models do have some crude representation of nucleation microphysics in their convection or cloud schemes, but it certainly isn't the key factor in the weak increase of precipitation with temperature, which is seen in all GCM's including those with very basic representations of convection.
General
circulation models do simulate clouds, and the clouds they simulate are a big part of the nature of their response to both doubled CO2 and to LGM forcing.
Not exact matches
The
models did not show as strong a shift as the observations, Frierson said, suggesting that ocean
circulation also played a role in the drought.
I'd love to know what they
did take into account in attempting to
model that period — must include astronomical location, sun's behavior, best estimates about a lot of different conditions — where the continents were, what the ocean
circulation was
doing, whether there had been a recent geological period that laid down a lot of methane hydrates available to be tipped by Pliocene warming into bubbling out rapidly.
The climate
models aren't really good enough in their representation of present - day
circulation to give you much confidence in the specifics of their predictions [so that you could use them to
do a cost - benefit analysis for example], but the risk of widespread change is still there.
General
circulation models have generally excluded the feedback between climate and the biosphere, using static vegetation distributions and CO2 concentrations from simple carbon - cycle
models that
do not include climate change6.
Because of the expense of
doing the Venus radiative transfer calculation, there hasn't been much
modelling of the Venus general
circulation.
And a proper discussion of climate change often
does call for precise terms like external forcing and general
circulation models, and other non-toddler friendly jargon.
For the hydrological
modelling of the Thames river catchment
done at CEH we showed that the changes in atmospheric
circulation and precipitation caused higher peak 30 - day river flow, while flood risk mapping revealed a small increase in flood risk for properties in the Thames catchment.
Simulations with general
circulation ocean
models do not fully support the gas exchange - sea ice hypothesis.
He said that while it's possible human - driven global warming could have played a role in the region, the study's
modeling efforts didn't convincingly replicate certain patterns and that he felt more confident that natural
circulation patterns played a more likely role in pushing temperatures up across the region since 1900.
The app operates on a pay - per -
circulation model, like Freading, so libraries don't have to deal with purchasing multiple copies to enable simultaneous use.
The report is quite specific that this new
model is nothing to
do with the iPad 5, it's not a new generation, it's an expansion of the current - generation iPad 4 family and will sit alongside the 16 GB, 32 GB and 64 GB
models already in
circulation.
General
circulation models have generally excluded the feedback between climate and the biosphere, using static vegetation distributions and CO2 concentrations from simple carbon - cycle
models that
do not include climate change6.
The conference, whose theme was observations,
modelling and paleo - climate related to the Thermohaline and Meridional overturning
circulation (MOC) in the North Atlantic, could have been expected to attract media attention (particularly in the Europe) and indeed it
did.
I can see why you would want to take into account thermal - induced
circulation, but couldn't this be easily
done by
modeling a one - meter strip (at the tropics) extending to the poles?
Virtually the entire post is well - rooted in theory and
does not require full blown General
Circulation Models to appreciate, and my guess is that the general reader will take more kindly to such simple models which can be understood compl
Models to appreciate, and my guess is that the general reader will take more kindly to such simple
models which can be understood compl
models which can be understood completely.
So even though El Nià ± o may serve as an analogue for some aspects of the influence of the weakening Walker
circulation on climate, it
does not serve as a dynamical analogue nor is the sensitivity to
model details the same.
For example,
do climate
models predict jumps between states of climatic
circulation, either atmospheric or oceanic?
It is uncertain, but
models do suggest that the overturning
circulation of the Atlantic may be affected by future warming, and this would have the unfortunate and unwanted effect of switching West Africa into a drought mode.
This is computer
model crap based on General
Circulation Models that fails to predict anything and the climate sensitivity is feeded in the
model even though they
do nt have a clue what it is.
Other
modelling efforts
do not indicate a future shutdown of the ocean's thermohaline
circulation, and some even strengthen it.
People convinced as to the accuracy of AO - GCM (Atmosphere Ocean General
Circulation Model) simulations may believe that these provide acceptable estimates of S, but even the IPCC
does not deny the importance of observational evidence.
Although previous studies have offered a general global overview of water
circulation between the oceans and land, this traditional two - region
model does not take into account the considerable precipitation that occurs over tropical coastal regions, including the Indonesian maritime continent, the Indian subcontinent, and the Bay of Bengal.
The general
circulation models are the tools to
do that, but they are an imperfect crystal ball, Hurrell admits.
You'll need to be okay with not understanding why CO2 lags temperature, why its predicted effects
do not match observed climate measurements, or why the IPCC's general
circulation models can not predict short - term, regional, or even past climate changes accurately.
I suspect the GCM's appear to
do well on a large scale because they
model the broad brush
circulation of the atmosphere, eg Hadley cell, coriolis etc quite well.
If I were for a moment to play the Advocatus Diaboli in the discussion, however, I would note in the defense of the climate scientists who might be in good will misled by Global
Circulation Models whether or not you consider them «falsifiable» — and your asserting that they are not
does not make that so — they are, generally, based on actual physics.
I agree that the application of higher resolution
model equipment
does not help to reduce the uncertainty range of the sea level in the Amsterdam harbours: assumptions about changes in the heat storage, icecap melting and changes in the gravity field dominate this uncertainty range (although some regiona features related to oceanic
circulation and heat redistribution may be better resolved in higher resolution
models).
Because radiative forcing, while it
does vary somewhat with vertical profile, is relatively immune to changes of the atmosphere due to
circulation, so
models can
do a reasonable job of predicting that the global mean temperatures increase.
I don't doubt climate
models are a useful tool in understanding global
circulation patterns.
Unfortunately, conductive heat flow versus age data
do not confirm the cooling
models because much of the heat is advected by hydrothermal
circulation near the ridge axes (Hofmeister and Criss, 2005; Pollack et al., 1993).
The fact that Wahl and Ammann (2006) admit that the results of the MBH methodology
does not coincide with the results of other methods such as borehole methods and atmospheric - ocean general
circulation models and that Wahl and Ammann adjust the MBH methodology to include the PC4 bristlecone / foxtail pine effects are significant reasons we believe that the Wahl and Amman paper
does not convincingly demonstrate the validity of the MBH methodology.
Importantly, the changes in cereal yield projected for the 2020s and 2080s are driven by GHG - induced climate change and likely
do not fully capture interannual precipitation variability which can result in large yield reductions during dry periods, as the IPCC (Christensen et al., 2007) states: ``... there is less confidence in the ability of the AOGCMs (atmosphere - ocean general
circulation models) to generate interannual variability in the SSTs (sea surface temperatures) of the type known to affect African rainfall, as evidenced by the fact that very few AOGCMs produce droughts comparable in magnitude to the Sahel droughts of the 1970s and 1980s.»
Do GCM's «create» cold fronts and the arctic air flows when they run, or are they «static» heat exchange models only (radiation received and radiation released are obviously their «drivers»... But what happens after the air masses have been «driven» for the equal of one or two «years» — do we see flows in the tropics, mid-latitudes, and polar latitudes than resembles earth's circulatio
Do GCM's «create» cold fronts and the arctic air flows when they run, or are they «static» heat exchange
models only (radiation received and radiation released are obviously their «drivers»... But what happens after the air masses have been «driven» for the equal of one or two «years» —
do we see flows in the tropics, mid-latitudes, and polar latitudes than resembles earth's circulatio
do we see flows in the tropics, mid-latitudes, and polar latitudes than resembles earth's
circulation?
Allowing the ocean
circulation to interact with the atmosphere
did not significantly alter the characteristics of the AMO in current - generation climate
models.
They
did not properly
model the critical role of radiative gases in tropospheric convective
circulation.
The general
circulation models attempt to
do the juggling but it is obviously an enormously difficult problem.
Already in an early comment in this thread I speculated that it may be impossible to
do those analyses without the use of a full
model of
circulation.
Judy, If this paper is found to be in line with observations,
does this mean that the General
Circulation Model need to be revised?
1 —
did the
circulation - driven fall in Arctic sea ice (which AR4
models don't
do a great job of) have anything to
do with the recent jump in Arctic temperatures and if so, could we get the «right» global temp trend for the «wrong» reasons.
how
did they rerun his
model with different atmopsheric
circulations?
By the way, we also
did a paper on millennial - scale solar geoengineering (Cao et al, 2016) showing that, in at least one climate
model, solar geoengineering behaves quite well on the 1000 - year time scale with no substantial long term growth in climate change as ocean
circulation and such adjusts to the new conditions.
We have a lot of very good
models that seem to
do a very good job of
modeling ocean
circulation.
My main interest is in understanding what, if anything, we can say about climate sensitivity that
does not rely on General
Circulation Models.
However, the availability of non-radiative means for vertical transport of energy, including small - scale convection and large - scale atmospheric motions, must be accounted for, as is
done in our atmospheric general
circulation model.