Not exact matches
Countering a widely - held view that thawing permafrost accelerates atmospheric warming, a study published this week in the scientific journal Nature suggests arctic thermokarst lakes are «net
climate coolers» when observed
over longer, millennial,
time scales.
When all (or most) of the factors that contribute to
climate are considered, it is obvious that cyclical patterns will result
over long time scales.
If we decide, as Lomborg suggests, to focus exclusively on a handful of top priorities at the expense of all others, especially those that are more complex and operate
over longer time scales, such as
Climate Change, we are doing little more than arranging the Titanic's proverbial deck - chairs.
Back in 2001, Peter Doran and colleagues wrote a paper about the Dry Valleys
long term ecosystem responses to
climate change, in which they had a section discussing temperature trends
over the previous couple of decades (not the 50 years
time scale being discussed this week).
Over even
longer time scales (hundreds of years) there are a number of paleo - records that correlate with records of cosmogenic isotopes (particularly 10Be and 14C), however, these records are somewhat modulated by
climate processes themselves (the carbon cycle in the case of 14C, aerosol deposition and transport processes for 10Be) and so don't offer an absolutely clean attribution.
But this human adaptation
time scale may be
longer than the
time over which
climate change affects storms, so that comparatively small changes in the frequency of generational events can have large social consequences.
Temperatures
over that period varied probably by less than 2 deg C, so the
climate during which we developed our way of life was very consistent when compared with the
long - term geological
time scale.
The oceans influence
climate over long and short
time -
scales.
The strength of teleconnections and the way they influence surface
climate also vary
over long time scales.
These results correspond to independently deduced Phanerozoic paleoclimates and support the notion that the atmospheric CO2 greenhouse mechanism is a major control on
climate over very
long time scales.
It's true that
climate varies naturally
over both short and
long time -
scales, but it's possible to distinguish natural
climate change from human caused
climate change.
It doesn't mean that there can't be any natural variability that appears as wobbles in the temperature record (or in other
climate variables), masking the multi-decadal temperature trend
over a
time scale shorter than 20 years with the effect that the
longer term trend is not statistically detectable in the
time series, if one chooses the
time period only short enough.
Jan Perlwitz says:» It doesn't mean that there can't be any natural variability that appears as wobbles in the temperature record (or in other
climate variables), masking the multi-decadal temperature trend
over a
time scale shorter than 20 years with the effect that the
longer term trend is not statistically detectable in the
time series, if one chooses the
time period only short enough.»
I'm very convinced that the physical process of global warming is continuing, which appears as a statistically significant increase of the global surface and tropospheric temperature anomaly
over a
time scale of about 20 years and
longer and also as trends in other
climate variables (e.g., global ocean heat content increase, Arctic and Antarctic ice decrease, mountain glacier decrease on average and others), and I don't see any scientific evidence according to which this trend has been broken, recently.
Recent work (e.g., Hurrell 1995, 1996; Thompson and Wallace 1998; Corti et al., 1999) has suggested that the observed warming
over the last few decades may be manifest as a change in frequency of these naturally preferred patterns (Chapters 2 and 7) and there is now considerable interest in testing the ability of
climate models to simulate such weather regimes (Chapter 8) and to see whether the greenhouse gas forced runs suggest shifts in the residence
time or transitions between such regimes on
long time -
scales.
History unfolds
over longer time scales, just like the
climate.
Thus there are primarily internal system changes forcing
climate responses, not primarily external such as the absolute value of solar power (except
over much
longer time scales).
«What we're going to be doing next is trying to understand more about the relationships between the proxies that we measured in the mosses, how they've changed
over longer time scales, before the advent of the human influence on
climate,» Dr. Amesbury revealed.
If a scientist and in particular
climate scientists don't understand the wide swings that do occur in data
over short multidecadal
time scales then how can they be trusted with understanding the large climatic swings on
longer millenia
time scales or vise - versa.
It seems that every new
climate scenario making the media
over the past 20 years they always describe a warm future on a multidecadal
scale ignoring a cool future as if variability didn't exist, but isn't scientific climatology primarily concerned with
longer millenia
time scales of a thousand years or more?
Weather changes on short
time scales;
climate over long ones.
It suggests that the ocean's natural variability and change is leading to variability and change with enhanced magnitudes
over the continents, causing much of the
longer -
time -
scale (decadal) global -
scale continental
climate variability.
The sensitivity he then derives is projected back using the 0.8 deg C warming
over the 20th C. However, this is ludicrous — the sensitivity in the recent period can't be more than say, 1 ppmv per 0.1 deg C. Projected back you would have say a 10 ppmv (max) change
over the 20th C. Paleo -
climate constraints demonstrate that CC feedback even on really
long time scales is not more than 100 ppmv / 6 deg C (i.e. 16 ppmv / deg C), and
over shorter
time periods (i.e. Frank et al, 2010) it is more like 10 ppmv / deg C. Salby's sensitivity appears to be 10
times too large.
The glacial - interglacial cycles are an example of tight coupling between
climate and the carbon cycle
over long time scales, but there is also clear evidence of the carbon cycle responding to short - term climatic anomalies such as the El Niño - Southern Oscillation (ENSO) and Arctic Oscillation (Rayner et al., 1999; Bousquet et al., 2000; C. Jones et al., 2001; Lintner, 2002; Russell and Wallace, 2004) and the
climate perturbation arising from the Mt. Pinatubo volcanic eruption (Jones and Cox, 2001a; Lucht et al., 2002; Angert et al., 2004).
It is only
over the
longer time scales (decades) that the additional predictability that comes from external drivers of
climate change (for instance, carbon dioxide, air pollution and ozone depletion) can start to be useful — but that's another post.
Gavin writes «Paleo -
climate constraints demonstrate that CC feedback even on really
long time scales is not more than 100 ppmv / 6 deg C (i.e. 16 ppmv / deg C), and
over shorter
time periods (i.e. Frank et al, 2010) it is more like 10 ppmv / deg C. Salby's sensitivity appears to be 10
times too large.»
You won't get * global *
climate change
over long time scales.
I still think your choice of the Chicxulub meteor is a difficult one to use as it so clearly had major and
long lasting impacts
over the
time scales that current
climate modellers are working on.
I have broad training in both atmospheric science and oceanography, and I am particularly interested in coupled atmosphere - ocean
climate dynamics
over long time scales.
The impact of land use change on the energy and water balance may be very significant for
climate at regional
scales over time periods of decades or
longer.
Climate is individual weather observations / predictions integrated
over time and area, taking
longer -
scale trends into account and allowing us to identify such trends.