Evidence of decadal
climate prediction skill resulting from changes in anthropogenic forcing
The discussion on the issue of multi-decadal
climate prediction skill, and the meanings given to the terms «prediction»,» projection» and «scenario» have continued also in the comments to the posts
Not exact matches
By working on the still - not - fully - cracked nut of estimating changes in hurricane frequency and intensity in a warming
climate, Gabe and his colleagues ended up with a modeling system with seasonal
skill in regional hurricane
prediction.
Prediction skill of the
climate models is the issue that matters.
Collins (2002) investigated this type of
climate prediction, and found limited
skill using a few metrics, in a few regions (one of these included the north Atlantic).
And one more thing that really bothers me about
climate model
predictions that is rarely discussed around here, and kind of swept into the closet, which is
prediction skill.
Mark also explained how the
prediction of
climate indices is related to the
prediction of average variables, and how this relationship can be used to predict the
skill of
climate indices (which is not always straightforward).
Although the forecast quality of
climate predictions in Europe is low, sometimes the realism and reliability of these
predictions can overcome the lack of
skill.
``... since uncertainty is a structural component of
climate and hydrological systems, Anagnostopoulos et al. (2010) found that large uncertainties and poor
skill were shown by GCM
predictions without bias correction... it can not be addressed through increased model complexity....
The Decadal
Climate Prediction Project addresses a range of scientific issues involving the ability of the climate system to be predicted on annual to decadal timescales, the skill that is currently and potentially available, the mechanisms involved in long timescale variability, and the production of forecasts of benefit to both science and
Climate Prediction Project addresses a range of scientific issues involving the ability of the
climate system to be predicted on annual to decadal timescales, the skill that is currently and potentially available, the mechanisms involved in long timescale variability, and the production of forecasts of benefit to both science and
climate system to be predicted on annual to decadal timescales, the
skill that is currently and potentially available, the mechanisms involved in long timescale variability, and the production of forecasts of benefit to both science and society
The attempt to distinguish between the terms «projection» and «
prediction», whether by the IPCC or others, has introduced an unnecessary confusion to the impacts and policy communities regarding the
skill of regional and local multi-decadal
climate model runs.
This
skill must be assessed by predicting global, regional and local average
climate, and any
climate change that was observed over the last several decades (i.e. «hindcast model
predictions»).
However, type 4 downscaling, while providing the illusion of higher
skill because of the high spatial resolution
climate fields, has never shown
skill at
prediction beyond what is already there in the parent global model.
A measure of
skill of
predictions thus should be that the observed
climate trends fall within the range of an ensemble of hindcast
predictions.
Roger states that one can not consider
climate model
predictions (his type 4) at the regional scale when their predictive
skill in hindcast mode is not demonstrated.
Pielke and Wilby (2012) discuss the lack of potential of RCMs to increase the
skill of
climate predictions at the regional scale.
I also would value your response to summarize how you conclude we should assess the
skill of multi-decadal
climate predictions of changes in
climate statistics.
As they have matured,
climate models are being increasingly used to provide decision - relevant information to end users and policy makers, whose needs are helping define the focus of model development in terms of increasing
prediction skill on regional and decadal time scales.
In your answer to 1 (24 - 06 12:32) you state that unless models have proven
skill in predicting changes in
climate statistics on multi-decadal timescales, they should not be used for projections or
predictions.
I agree that the ambition to make (regional)
climate predictions even at decadal or longer time scales can not be supported by the current apparent feasibility, given the studies that demonstrate the lack of predictive
skill.
The mechanics of the models produce regional scale results, but, until the multi-decadal regional
predictions of changes in
climate statistics can be shown to be skilful, the added spatial resolution provides an erroneous illusion of
skill.
The notion that a tool — an RCM — may possess shortcomings in its predictive
skill, but simultaneously prove to be a valuable tool to support narratives that are relevant to policy making and spatial planning can in fact be extended to highlighting the difference between «
climate predictions» and «
climate scenarios».
This questioning of the CO2 - based
climate models has recently come to the forefront in recognition that the models and
climate modelers appear to have literally no
skill in
climate predictions, meaning that the models are in need of major revisions.
Recent improvements in forecast
skill of the
climate system by dynamical
climate models could lead to improvements in seasonal streamflow
predictions.
This study evaluates the hydrologic
prediction skill of a dynamical climate model - driven hydrologic prediction system (CM - HPS), based on an ensemble of statistically - downscaled outputs from the Canadian Seasonal to Interannual Prediction System
prediction skill of a dynamical
climate model - driven hydrologic
prediction system (CM - HPS), based on an ensemble of statistically - downscaled outputs from the Canadian Seasonal to Interannual Prediction System
prediction system (CM - HPS), based on an ensemble of statistically - downscaled outputs from the Canadian Seasonal to Interannual
Prediction System
Prediction System (CanSIPS).
In a century, we probably will be able to make quantitative
climate predictions with some
skill.
A REASONABLE PROPOSITION The less - strong consensus of AMS members regarding
climate - change is induced mainly by the relatively weak mathematical skillset of AMS members, in combination with a (legitimate) apprehension among AMS members that increasing computer power is eroding the economic value of human meteorological
prediction skills.
This new
prediction system shows the multi-year predictive
skills of drought and wildfire conditions beyond the typical timescale of seasonal
climate forecast models.
There is currently less
skill in predicting precipitation and other variables compared to temperature although progress is expected to be made as a consequence of the Decadal
Climate Prediction Project (DCPP) and other projects and investigations.
Identify new sources of predictive
skill and improve
predictions of weather, water, and
climate through observations, understanding, and modeling of physical processes and phenomena of the coupled Earth system.
If all ring growth influences can be correlated to markers systematically and predictably to the point that an investigator can decipher the full
climate history, drought, flood, predation, infestation, sunlight, wind, average temperature and range of temperature extremes, then they can demonstrate that
skill with blinds and
predictions.
Advise US CLIVAR on research priorities, gaps, and milestones to advance ocean and
climate predictions and projections through improved evaluation, and better quantification and communication of
skill and uncertainty.
We examined the potential
skill of decadal
predictions using the newly developed Decadal
Climate Prediction System (DePreSys), based on the Hadley Centre Coupled Model, version 3 (HadCM3)(17), a dynamical global climate model
Climate Prediction System (DePreSys), based on the Hadley Centre Coupled Model, version 3 (HadCM3)(17), a dynamical global
climate model
climate model (GCM).