Nina and I are friends as well, even though I say her name wrong, who has also written some books
about fat, but there's this national
conversation where you have the old school low - fats, mostly paid for by big
grain sort of research out there, and you're refuting some of that using very strong academics, randomized controlled trials, and the things that everyone wants, but no one has paid for except for maybe big drug companies and things like that.