Critique groups do take a lot of time.
Just finished going over the copyedits on my 4th novel coming out in September, and I was dumbfounded at the things I typed that I hadn't caught, and that my other editor didn't catch, or my critique group didn't catch.
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Not exact matches
I try so hard to
critique that which I know to be wrong, but to
do so in love, and then people misunderstand me and believe that I am showing hate to
groups of people.
As we say in
critique group, if you don't like this idea, ignore it.
Given the magnified excessive self - regard of communities,
groups, and nations makes love an impossibility in their relations, although love
does serve as judgment and a transcendent
critique.
That prompted
critiques concerning why, given the forecast that everyone had, they
did not send the entire field off in
groups of three off split tees early Saturday morning.
But he
does believe that the additional disclosure requirements, tucked into a bill passed last June, was payback for past
critiques by government reform
groups on lack of ethics reforms in Albany.
While the techniques draw from the same pool of knowledge, and travel together in scientific circles, many environmental
groups do not oppose molecular breeding, while stridently
critiquing current GM crops, according to Marco Contiero, the European biotech policy director for the environmental
group Greenpeace.
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Considered one of the greatest films ever made, The Rules of the Game (La règle
du jeu), by Jean Renoir, is a scathing
critique of corrupt French society cloaked in a comedy of manners in which a weekend at a marquis» country château lays bare some ugly truths about a
group of haut bourgeois acquaintances.
The
critique protocol can be
done as a whole class, in small
groups, or in pairs.
In his insightful
critique of the Flynn effect, Rodgers (1999; see also Rowe & Rodgers, 2002) notes that changing means in a distribution of IQ scores
does not identify which (sub)
groups in the distribution actually experienced change.
Both really useful things to
do — my writing's always flourishing when I've had
critique groups (and ideally tutors too) to help me along.
I think one thing that really makes my
critique group mates special is that every single one of them is constantly taking classes and reading books on the craft of writing so it's not like they think they're gifted writers who don't have anything to learn.
I
did my first
critique groups at a writers» conference, and then
did a little bit outside.
And even though SSWS attendees were competing with one another for slots in the book, we cheered each other on,
critiqued stories to help one another, and as often happens with this
group, we
did all we could to help our writing friends succeed.
You don't want reviewers to change your voice or artistic vision any more than you want your
critique group to
do that.
I don't have any novels ready for beta readers, but my
critique groups have been so helpful to me with my short stories, I honestly don't know how I lived without them previously.
-LSB-...] how
do you find a
critique group and / or beta readers?
Roland —
Do feel free to print this out and take this to your next
critique group meeting, or link to it in a forum or discussion
group!
Julie — A
critique group that leaves you feeling discouraged week after week is not
doing its job.
One thing
critique groups can't
do well is help with story arc, because we look at things chapter by chapter.
Do you belong to a
critique group?
While I don't have a writing
critique group, I
do have a partner that I swap work with and I think about these problems a lot.
As I went through the manuscript
doing rewrites, I realized nearly every issue my editor had with my work turned out to be something I'd added or subtracted at the request of various
critique groups.
When she reported it to our
critique group, she didn't say she'd found a mistake on a book published by «XYZ Publishers.»
CS —
Critique groups are great for so many things, but they don't get the big picture, which is why beta - reads can be so valuable.
I
did a simple Google search for «
critique group guidelines» and I was so jazzed to see the first entry that came up was written by a personal friend and neighbor!
These communities seem good for newer writers who don't have an in - person
critique group, and I've recommended them.
You
did a superb job of overseeing all the
critique groups for the SLO Nightwriters.
The neat thing about this
group, of about 45 - 60 members, is you often received 20 or so short
critiques and then could consider at your leisure what «felt» right and what didn't.
And yes, since we once shared a
critique group, I think you know exactly the kind of
critiques I'm talking about And oh, don't you hate those perfect Mary Sue characters!
I
do recommend
critique groups for new writers, but remember to take their advice with many grains of salt.
There's only so far you can go with self - editing, and
critique groups sometimes don't quite hit the mark.
And so I
did what you've been
doing, Amber, which was to write hard, go to
critique groups, query agents, and generally work the system, hoping for a break.
I
do still encourage the use of
critique groups and beta readers as a first step in learning the ins and outs of the craft and business of writing, but keep in mind that most of what you hear in a
critique group needs to be taken with a grain of salt.
Peer review,
critique groups, freelance book doctors, etc., can all help if you're lucky enough to find the right people, but I don't think there's any substitute for what an in - house editor with a vested interest in your project can bring to the table.
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I've never belonged to a
critique group, in real life or online, although I
do feel blessed to have a couple really amazing
critique partners.
But most professional writers didn't start out wealthy, so they learned their craft through workshops, extensive reading,
critique groups, and years of trial and error.
I
did the online
critique groups and I meet once a week with other writers who are awesome creative people, but I like how immediate my editor is at getting back to me.
Join writing
groups, trade edits and
critiques, find a way to get some fresh eyes on your book — and be open to criticism (though you don't have to accept all if it, it's always helpful to see how others will react to your writing).
Join or start a
critique group, show your manuscript to members of your target audience,
do a lot of self - editing and rewriting.
It doesn't matter whether it's a
critique group, a workshop, a conference, or even hanging out with like - minded scribblers online.
Sometimes a
critique group will tell you: we're
done.
-LSB-...]
Do you need a
critique group?
I don't know if this is exactly a rule, but my big «unfavorite» from my old
critique group had to
do with the maturity levels of child characters.
I'll continue writing technical manuals because the pay is great, and I'll continue
critiquing manuscripts because that's what
critique group members
do, but at least I've cleared enough space on my roster to find time to write this post, so that's something... right?