How many prayers of desperation from parents forced to endure the horrific
death of their children does Jeebus ignore so he can make the spread on a Celtics game?»
As for comfort, when we seek it, I can imagine none greater than the happy knowledge that when I see
the death of a child I do not see the face of God, but the face of His enemy.
Not exact matches
@CP: before the age
of 24 I buried my Mom and 2
children... tragedy didn't make me believe then and it certainly won't make me believe now... if anything those tragedies made me question what kind
of an evil monster god really is if he allows 3 innocent people to die horrible
deaths (my Mom was an avid believer and went to her grave believing she was going to be with god... it was a comfort for her and eased her mind... I just don't see it as a necessity)
Why
did Atheist Kim Jun IL allow millions
of men Women &
children STARVE TO
DEATH?
You'll see your
child's recovery as an answer to prayer, and then you'll come up with some excuse to explain why God didn't answer my prayer to avoid admitting the fact that your kid's recovery had nothing to
do with God, just as the
death of mine had nothing to
do with God.
Causing the
death of an unborn
child is in the Bible, for in the Bible at Exodus 21, it says that «in case men should struggle with each other and they really hurt a pregnant woman and her
children do come out but no fatal accident occurs, he is to have damages imposed upon him without fail according to what the owner
of the woman may lay upon him; and he must give it through the justices.
And how about a declaration that, in the event
of death or divorce, the Catholic party
does not waive the right to pass on the Catholic faith to their
children?
It doesn't help the thousands
of children who starve to
death daily.
Indeed, to
do good to a little
child is to
do good to Jesus himself, while to cause injury or hurt to one is a moral and spiritual calamity, deserving the punishment
of death itself.
well
done Jerry God would uphold you, God know how to save and spread the gospel, if not we could have not heard in Africa mostly some part Nigeria, up till today some were still in darkness they have not heard about the gospel but when it is time for judgement, surely they must be judge, This question it is only God that can give the accurate answer to it, for it was written that both young and old would appear in the throne
of judgement either you a day
child or not, for there is / was no repentance after
death, and to die its once, thanks.
With respect, that you see removing a non-sentient embryo / fetus as comparable to the drowning / hacking to
death of sentient
children / infants suggests a lack
of reasonable empathy (perhaps you don't have
children and have never felt the helplessness in watching them suffer through pain?).
Again, you are ignoring the manner in which the
children are ushered (i.e. cruelly drowning or hacking to
death with a sword) and the availability
of options which don't cause unnecessary suffering and pain.
From Nadia Bolz Weber «The Sarcastic Lutheran»: «So when I reject my identity as beloved
child of God and turn to my own plans
of self - satisfaction, or I despair that I haven't managed to be a good enough person, I again see our divine Parent running toward me uninterested in what I've
done or not
done, who covers me in divine love and I melt into something new like having again been moved from
death to life and I reconcile aspects
of myself and I reconcile to others around me.
If by the power
of God's grace we are in a position to accept ourselves as pilgrims, as mortal men seeking their way with difficulty through the darkness, as failing again and again and yet bound in duty to an earthly task; if the Church effects that acceptance by celebrating the
death of the Lord, and makes us men
of prayer who are really conscious
of the future judgment
of God, if the Church sends its
children strengthened with God's grace out into their own maturity which burdens them but sets them free, then the Church by its official ministry has
done what it alone can and must
do.
Do you agree with everything written in the Bible regarding the treatment
of adulterers and disrespectful
children (i.e. stoning them to
death)?
If there is a God that would allow this (and painful cancer
deaths of children, or the Holocaust, or genocide, or...) I don't think much
of his caring or omnipotence.
1 Corinthians 11:14 (Men should not have long hair) 1 Corinthians 14:34 - 35 (Women should remain silent in church) Deuteronomy 13:6 - 16 (
Death penalty for Apostasy) Deuteronomy 20:10 - 14 (Attack city, kill all men, keep women,
children as spoils
of war) Deuteronomy 21:18 - 21 (
Death penalty for a rebellious son) Deuteronomy 22:19 - 25 (Kill non - virgin / kill adulterers / rapists) Ecclesiastes 1:18 (Knowledge is bad) Exodus 21:1 - 7 (Rules for buying slaves) Exodus 35:2 (
Death for working on the Sabbath) Ezekiel 9:5 - 6 (Murder women /
children) Genesis 1:3,4,5,11,12,16 (God creates light, night and day, plants grow, before creating sun) Genesis 3:16 (Man shall rule over woman) Jeremiah 19:9 (Cannibalism) John 3:18 (He who believes in Jesus is saved, he that doesn't is condemned) John 5:46 - 47 (Jesus references Old Testament) Leviticus 3:1 - 17 (Procedure for animal sacrifice) Leviticus 19:19 (No mixed fabrics in clothing) Leviticus 19:27 (Don't trim hair or beard) Leviticus 19:28 (No tattoos) Leviticus 20:9 (
Death for cursing father or mother) Leviticus 20:10 (
Death for adultery) Leviticus 20:13 (
Death for gay men) Leviticus 21:17 - 23 (Ugly people, lame, dwarfs, not welcome on altar) Leviticus 25:45 (Strangers can be bought as slaves) Luke 12:33 (Sell your possessions, and give to the poor) Luke 14:26 (You must hate your family and yourself to follow Jesus) Mark 10:11 - 12 (Leaving your spouse for another is adultery) Mark 10:21 - 22 (Sell your possessions and give to the poor) Mark 10:24 - 25 (Next to impossible for rich to get into heaven) Mark 16:15 - 16 (Those who hear the gospel and don't believe go to hell) Matthew 5:17 - 19 (Jesus says he has come to enforce the laws
of the Old Testament) Matthew 6:5 - 6 (Pray in secret) Matthew 6:18 (Fast for Lent in secret) Matthew 9:12 (The healthy don't need a doctor, the sick
do) Matthew 10:34 - 37 (Jesus comes with sword, turns families against each other, those that love family more than him are not worthy) Matthew 12:30 (If you're not with Jesus, you're against him) Matthew 15:4 (Death for not honouring your father and mother) Matthew 22:29 (Jesus references Old Testament) Matthew 24:37 (Jesus references Old Testament) Numbers 14:18 (Following generations blamed for the sins of previous ones) Psalms 137:9 (Violence against children) Revelation 6:13 (The stars fell to earth like figs) Revelation 21:8 (Unbelievers, among others, go to hell) 1 Timothy 2:11 - 12 (Women subordinate and must remain silent) 1 Timothy 5:8 (If you don't provide for your family, you are an infide
do) Matthew 10:34 - 37 (Jesus comes with sword, turns families against each other, those that love family more than him are not worthy) Matthew 12:30 (If you're not with Jesus, you're against him) Matthew 15:4 (
Death for not honouring your father and mother) Matthew 22:29 (Jesus references Old Testament) Matthew 24:37 (Jesus references Old Testament) Numbers 14:18 (Following generations blamed for the sins
of previous ones) Psalms 137:9 (Violence against
children) Revelation 6:13 (The stars fell to earth like figs) Revelation 21:8 (Unbelievers, among others, go to hell) 1 Timothy 2:11 - 12 (Women subordinate and must remain silent) 1 Timothy 5:8 (If you don't provide for your family, you are an infidel)
And Exodus 21: 20 clearly gives notes on what should happen when a slave is beaten to the point
of death or near
death, not to mention the other rules
of who should be set free, what to
do with the slaves»
children, how many years to keep a slave... It doesn't sound very different at all from our modern view
of slavery.
Does being pro-life include the lives
of those on
death row, enemy combatants / civilians in war, or funding government social programs that support women and
children?
I don't think Jesus was saying in Mark 7:10 that
children should be put to
death if they fail to take care
of their parents.
«Avenging Angels» — Brigham Youngs murderers — they
did his bidding like the Mason Family Mountain Meadows Massacre — the massacre
of 30 men 40 women and 70
children in Utah by the «Avenging Angels» see «Blood
of the Prophets» by Will Bagley (mormon author) Blood Atonement — the practice
of the mormons that atones for the
death of its members and / or the act
of which the mormons retaliate when they
do not believe one is following what they think is right — google the 1984 murder the Lafferty brothers commited in Utah
of their sister in - law and her 9 month old daughter by slitting their throats.
I presume you include starving to
death as a punishment — what wrong
did the thousands
of children who dies daily
of starvation commit.
The parents
of such
children should rejoice that their
children were slaughtered by the god, since they didn't get a chance to be damned to everlasting torment at
death, because the god killed them at a tender age.
But these same people you speak
of are also the ones that will say they're «pro-life» but then be pro
death penalty (though I'm not against the
death penalty myself in certain cases) and usually are all ready to go to war, don't support programs that help these
children once they are born, etc..
He placed the blame upon the Jews for the
death of Jesus, which he implied justified what the Germans were
doing to the Jews: «The self - imposed curse
of the Jews, «His blood be upon us and upon our
children,» has come true terribly until the present time, until today.»
I think most
of the Americans are in lost... as most
of them
do not know who their father is and it is very unfortunate... even if they know who their father is, the mom has
children from diff men outside
of marriage... and while a
child is being raised, watching what his / her parents
do to enjoy their life... so things become normal when they grow up... like if you go back early nineteen century, women were not allowed to go to beach without being covered... and now it totally opposite... if you
do not have a boyfriend or girlfriend before 15, the parents worries that their teenage has some problem... and lot more can be listed... And then you go to Church, what our
children learn from there... they see in front
of the Church an old man's statue with long beard standing with extending
of both hand... some
of the status are blank, white, Spanish and so on... so they are being taught God as an old dude... then you learn from Catholic that you pray to Jesus, Mother Marry, Saints,
Death spirit and all these... the poll shows a huge number
of young American turns to Atheism or believing there is no God and so on... Its hard to assume where these nations are going with the name
of modernization... nothing wrong having scientists discovered the cure
of aids or the pics from mars but... we should all think and learn from our previous generations and correct ourselves... also ppl are becoming so much slave
of material things...
So when Jesus quotes the law in Mark 7:10 about putting
children to
death for cursing their parents, He is not necessarily quoting it with approval, but is instead pointing out how the religious leaders were using the law to
do the exact opposite
of what the law said.
In effect, these adult
children were cursing their parents to
death, which was the exact opposite
of what the law said they should
do.
Do you take your unruly
children to the edge
of town and stone them to
death?
The
death or thought
of death to
children who died
does not exist in the construct
of the New Heaven and the New Earth as put forth in the Bible.
The
child conceived in that spring night in Jerusalem
did not live, and something
of the strength
of the old David is heard in his courageous response to the
death (12:20 - 23).
For a peasant woman's
child in occupied territory in an out -
of - the - way corner
of the Roman Empire to have become the man he
did, attracting what looked like flash - in - the - pan attention during his brief years
of ministry, unknown to most
of his contemporaries and viewed as an upstart, a wonder - worker, or a fanatic by most
of those who knew about him, dying a felon's
death deserted by most
of his close and trusted friends with the incredible rumor then circulated that he had risen again — what chance had he
of any lasting fame?
You
do realize that if he had died a natural
death with 5
children, married to Mary Magdalene, nothing
of the «Christian» doctrine would exist, right?
To simply commit adultery and lie, kill, steal and wreak havoc only to pull the get out
of jail free card right at the time
of death is simply something that seems hard to swallow, doesn't God have some limit as too what he'll allow his
children to
do?
but thats not what i'm talking about... i am discussing the god you claim to worship... even if you believe jesus was god on earth it doesn't matter for if you take what he had to say as law then you should take with equal fervor words and commands given from god itself... it stands as logical to
do this and i am confused since most only
do what jesus said... the dude was only here for 30 years and god has been here for the whole time — he has added, taken away, and revised everything he has set previous to jesus and after his
death... thru the prophets — i base my argument on the book itself, so if you have a counter argument i believe you haven't a full understanding
of the book — and that would be my overall point... belief without full understanding
of or consideration to real life or consequences for the hereafter is equal to a
childs belief in santa which is why we atheists feel it is an equal comparision... and santa is clearly a bs story... based on real events from a real historical person but not a magical being by any means!
For example, to condemn lethal organ harvesting, or pre-viability removal
of an unborn
child from its mother, it is not necessary to claim that the surgeon «must» have intended the foreseen
death for the unborn
child or the organ donor — as a result
of what he
did intend for the object
of his assault.
So when we experience the
death - throes
of the deconstruction
of our faith and beliefs and experience confusion, how
do we take care
of the spiritual lives
of our own
children?
But whatever the narrative
of the feeding
of the four thousand teaches about God,
children do in fact starve to
death in our world, even with its great surpluses
of food and its technological and organizational wizardry.
Jeff: This is what causes division as we go about
doing even good things, out
of the tree
of the knowledge
of good and evil to set up another sect out
of our carnal nature; above is the outcome; Jesus came to cause division among men that tries to become their own god and sets up camp, even for them that call themselves Christian, for them that have went from Him and His Words, even that are not
of His Spirit: Jesus said; the Words that I speak are Spirit and Life, That means the Words
of man can only bring forth
death: Therefore; if we
do not have His Spirit in us, then we too can only speak forth
death: This is what it is to be a believer, we truly believe our Lord: I can see what the Catholic church and her daughters are
doing to form a religious Babylonian city: Even as God caused a division in Babylon in the past because the peoples became great, so to is it now with all
of the man made sects
of religion: But when we are filled with the Spirit
of God then we can not help but to live for God: It is written; those who are led by His spirit are His
children: Thank - you Jeff: Those who are
of His Spirit will know these truths, those who are not
of His Spirit truly believe a believer is as they and can not know what we speak, because they live in unbelief: Thank - you again Jeff; In Jesus Name Alexandria: P.S..
Anti-Freedom
of religion, Atheist is a religion; it's called freedom
of choice, just stay away from my family and
children and I will
do the same, unless it is life or
death to protect the innocent
child
God
did that because he planned the exact time
of that
child's birth and
death.
Even though alcoholism ranks as one
of the country's three major health problems, along with cancer and heart disease; even though it accounts for approximately 98,000
deaths every year; even though it is the root cause
of most pastoral - care crises (suicides, auto fatalities,
child abuse, divorces, hospital admissions, accidental
deaths and home violence); even though it costs the nation $ 120 billion annually in terms
of lost work time, health and welfare benefits, property damage, medical expenses, insurance and lost wages; and even though its effects impair the educational process
of every
child in every classroom, still the church acts as though alcoholism
does not exist.
Does God know what it is like to experience the
death of a
child?
The judges didn't go that far, ordering an additional $ 4,500 for the widows and
children of the 39 Christians on the government's official
death toll.
They are disappointed that billions
of men, women, and
children,
did not suffer through horrible destruction,
death, and misery... How compassionate
of them.
And if you believe in your little Bible, well let me tell you God is the fault then... I am Atheist so I don't believe in your delusion... but I must inform you, the truth is slowly emerging that the Bible is lies written many eons ago... Where is your god when millions
of children suffer and die, Is this his plan, to watch
death, destruction, and mayhem prevail..
As I've spent the past few years struggling with doubt and grasping for faith, I've found that being ready with an answer
does not
do justice to the seriousness
of questions like, why
does God allow innocent
children to starve to
death?
Then the presence
of the gay person who (usually)
does not have
children may reawaken the fear
of death, even though its conscious experience may be a nameless anxiety.
They don't exactly have the same ring to them... and yet they are there, tucked between stories about animals and arks (and the mass destruction
of mankind), burning bushes and plagues
of locusts (and the
death of first - born
children), stairways to heaven and colorful robes (and men with multiple wives).
But on the other hand religion is not healthy for
children and other living things
du to how religions distort lives teachings and are the cause
of most wars and
deaths of millions
of people, the solution is spirituality because god is concerned for all not just those who believe twords specific teachings.