Not exact matches
Herrera is more productive in
deeper position, making late runs into the box, but his combative nature will help beef
up United's
midfield.
We can have 2
up top with Ramsey Will be slotted as Box to Box role and Wilshere with
Deep lying
Midfielder to control
midfield.
Both Mkhitaryan and Ozil have the potential to start
up attacks from
deep in the central defense area and continue those attacks in the pivot attacking
midfield set -
up as well, and completing the same in advance attacking roles as well as striking positions.
As Lacazette becomes more and more frustrated throughout matches where his teammates create nothing for him, he slides
deeper and takes
up a de facto central
midfield role so he can join the action.
Walcott now wants to play the right wing, Sanchez best attributes is charging defenders and fullbacks with the ball at his feet commencing from
deep and wide areas his weakness is holding a position high
up the pitch alongside defenders and allowing
midfielders to feed him balls.
Zelalem is a bit like a ozil type but has been playing
deeper in
Midfield I think there doing that to help toughen him
up.
Wenger wants old fashioned centre - forwards who play very
deep (virtually
midfield) and make runs forward, hold the ball
up, etc..
Deep - Lying Playmaker Operates in the space between the defence and the
midfield, and aims to initiate attacking moves through pinpoint passes to players positioned higher
up the pitch.
A
midfield that suits Theo will / may not suit Giroud and that's where the problem lies... I'm sure Wenger has something
up his sleeves to have offered Theo and Giroud high wage contracts... For tough away games, e.g chelsea, play a double DM and hit on counter, that makes Theo ideal... And at lower team that likes to depend
deep in their half, he can play Giroud because of his physical presence and great hold
up play, or even play both depending... All in all another DM is HIGHLY needed.
He's a bit overrated I must say.I also don't get those who are asking him to tackle well.The fact is he's not a good tackler.I fear Wenger has made him untouchable in our team such that even if he plays badly he still starts.I mean if people are saying he's not a DM in the first place then is he also a CM?If he's a CM does he have the quality to play along side a DM?These are the questions we need to ask ourselves.If he's a CM then he's good at distributing from
deep and also
up top but he can't hold thd ball in tight spaces or dribble which is very important.If he's a DM then he simply can't defend.That's why for us to be successful in the long term with him we need a hybrid
midfielder or what I call a defensive box to box
midfielder.
As reported by The Guardian, Wenger had nothing but bad news for us on the injury front, with the innoucuous lloking knock picked
up by Mikel Arteta revealed as a calf problem that will see Arsenal without their captain and best
deep lying
midfielder for a lengthy period of time.
2010 - 11 season i honestly thought he'll end
up as a
deep - lying
midfielder, he was great at winning the ball and keeping possession.
Even at Manchester United with two defensive
midfielders on the pitch Carrick and Fletcher, Welbeck still drop
deep and wide and he refuse to hold a position high
up the pitch because his not comfortable their.
Moving further
up the field, Aaron Ramsey impressed against the Baggies and will be expected to line
up alongside Francis Coquelin in the two
deeper midfield positions.
This is an incredibly difficult question to answer for a variety of reasons, most importantly because over the years our once vaunted «beautiful» style of play has become a shadow of it's former self, only to be replaced by a less than stellar «plug and play» mentality where players play out of position and adjustments / substitutions are rarely forthcoming before the 75th minute... if you look at our current players, very few would make sense in the traditional Wengerian system... at present, we don't have the personnel to move the ball quickly from
deep - lying position, efficient one touch
midfielders that can make the necessary through balls or the disciplined and pacey forwards to stretch defences into wide positions, without the aid of the backs coming
up into the final 3rd, so that we can attack the defensive lanes in the same clinical fashion we did years ago... on this current squad, we have only 1 central defender on staf, Mustafi, who seems to have any prowess in the offensive zone or who can even pass two zones through so that we can advance play quickly out of our own end (I have seen some inklings that suggest Holding might have some offensive qualities but too early to tell)... unfortunately Mustafi has a tendency to get himself in trouble when he gets overly aggressive on the ball... from our backs out wide, we've seen pace from the likes of Bellerin and Gibbs and the spirited albeit offensively stunted play of Monreal, but none of these players possess the skill - set required in the offensive zone for the new Wenger scheme which requires deft touches, timely runs to the baseline and consistent crossing, especially when Giroud was playing and his ratio of scored goals per clear chances was relatively low (better last year though)... obviously I like Bellerin's future prospects, as you can't teach pace, but I do worry that he regressed last season, which was obvious to Wenger because there was no way he would have used Ox as the right side wing - back so often knowing that Barcelona could come calling in the off - season, if he thought otherwise... as for our
midfielders, not a single one, minus the more confident Xhaka I watched played for the Swiss national team a couple years ago, who truly makes sense under the traditional Wenger model... Ramsey holds onto the ball too long, gives the ball away cheaply far too often and abandons his defensive responsibilities on a regular basis (doesn't score enough recently to justify): that being said, I've always thought he does possess a little something special, unfortunately he thinks so too... Xhaka is a little too slow to ever boss the
midfield and he tends to telegraph his one true strength, his long ball play: although I must admit he did get a bit better during some points in the latter part of last season... it always made me wonder why whenever he played with Coq Wenger always seemed to play Francis in a more advanced role on the pitch... as for Coq, he is way too reckless at the wrong times and has exhibited little offensive prowess yet finds himself in and around the box far too often... let's face it Wenger was ready to throw him in the trash heap when injuries forced him to use Francis and then he had the nerve to act like this was all part of a bigger Wenger constructed plan... he like Ramsey, Xhaka and Elneny don't offer the skills necessary to satisfy the quick transitory nature of our old offensive scheme or the stout defensive mindset needed to protect the defensive zone so that our offensive players can remain aggressive in the final third... on the front end, we have Ozil, a player of immense skill but stunted by his physical demeanor that tends to offend, the fact that he's been played out of position far too many times since arriving and that the players in front of him, minus Sanchez, make little to no sense considering what he has to offer (especially Giroud); just think about the quick counter-attack offence in Real or the space and protection he receives in the German National team's
midfield, where teams couldn't afford to focus too heavily on one individual... this player was a passing «specialist» long before he arrived in North London, so only an arrogant or ignorant individual would try to reinvent the wheel and / or not surround such a talent with the necessary components... in regards to Ox, Walcott and Welbeck, although they all possess serious talents I see them in large part as headless chickens who are on the injury table too much, lack the necessary first - touch and / or lack the finishing flair to warrant their inclusion in a regular starting eleven; I would say that, of the 3, Ox showed the most upside once we went to a back 3, but even he became a bit too consumed by his pending contract talks before the season ended and that concerned me a bit... if I had to choose one of those 3 players to stay on it would be Ox due to his potential as a plausible alternative to Bellerin in that wing - back position should we continue to use that formation... in Sanchez, we get one of the most committed skill players we've seen on this squad for some years but that could all change soon, if it hasn't already of course... strangely enough, even he doesn't make sense given the constructs of the original Wenger offensive model because he holds onto the ball too long and he will give the ball
up a little too often in the offensive zone... a fact that is largely forgotten due to his infectious energy and the fact that the numbers he has achieved seem to justify the means... finally, and in many ways most crucially, Giroud, there is nothing about this team or the offensive system that Wenger has traditionally employed that would even suggest such a player would make sense as a starter... too slow, too inefficient and way too easily dispossessed... once again, I think he has some special skills and, at times, has showed some world - class qualities but he's lack of mobility is an albatross around the necks of our offence... so when you ask who would be our best starting 11, I don't have a clue because of the 5 or 6 players that truly deserve a place in this side, 1 just arrived, 3 aren't under contract beyond 2018 and the other was just sold to Juve... man, this is theraputic because following this team is like an addiction to heroin without the benefits
He said, «He's an all - round
midfielder who can play
deeper when needed, he can move forward and shoot from distance but he's not just a guy who stays in there and breaks
up play.
For me, we don't need another utility
midfielder, we need a specialist who wants to sit
deeper, can break
up play and protect the back four.
But Ox is thinking he played me
deep midfield now I'm wing back I suspect he'll go to the side that offers him the best package and a chance to play
up front even if it's coming off the bench.
We have relied more on Xhaka who is more adept at spraying the balls from his
deep laying position in the
midfield and when there is need to break
up play, at times he allows it to tarry too long giving him the need to achieve same with overly dramatic tackles that end
up with an equally dramatic red flash before his face.
He spent most of the match playing as a
deep - lying
midfield instead of making runs or holding
up the ball or even just staying in his own bloody position.
Wenger said, «He's important to our technical stability in the team, to the quality of our decision - making and to our build -
up from
deep midfield to the high
midfield.
The pair could line -
up alongside each other as Cazorla will be hoping his performances for the Gunners will earn him a start in Vicente del Bosque starting XI and the 30 - year - old has been speaking about playing in a more
deeper midfield role for the national team:
I've always taken the position, as I said back when you were so quick to come at me, that he was success as a true box to box
midfielder, comin from
deeper, versus being higher
up the park and trying create / do too much — score or try back heels / final passes that he can't complete.
All those clamouring for Arturo, are absolutely right, he plays
up the pitch because he can play there, and because Charles Aranguiz is the goto Defensive
Midfielder for Chile, at Juve, Pirlo occupies the deepest position, plus the midfield is packed with Pogba and Marchisio, hence he does nt need to do the Job of a defensive midfielder, and added to the fact that Juve completely dominate other Ital
Midfielder for Chile, at Juve, Pirlo occupies the
deepest position, plus the
midfield is packed with Pogba and Marchisio, hence he does nt need to do the Job of a defensive
midfielder, and added to the fact that Juve completely dominate other Ital
midfielder, and added to the fact that Juve completely dominate other Italian teams.
Kinda makes sense though, the only reason people are asking for another CDM is because we all fear the possibility of injury to coquelin and know flamini is usless, beilick is inexperienced so it begs the question what happens if an injury where to occur, but wîth how many
midfielders we have in the squad i think it could allow us to change a tactical approach and potentially experiment with people like Ramsey and Wishere potentially playing a
deeper role??? But the striker is a must as i mentioned earlier Giroud went 8 games without scoring a goal and none of the other strikers stepped
up to the plate, we cant have a drought of goals when your the quest for titles...
which is certainly not a slight on the young french national player; like him or not, Sanchez has provided some real world - class performances for club and country in recent years... if you do this move, you need to really clean house or face some serious consequences for the foreseeable future... half measures are rarely rewarded, that's how we got here... tear down the wall... we need to get rid of Giroud, not because he isn't a talented player, his skill - set simply doesn't make sense if we hope to maximize the offensive potential of a quick passing, one - touch scheme... we need to evolve, like Barcelona, who realized you needed to have clinical finishers or face a mind - numbing future of horizontal passes and largely ineffective crosses... Barca went and got Suarez, even though they had Messi and Neymar on the roster (just imagine the possibilities — another in the litany of Wenger «what ifs»)... we need to be as clinical in the boardroom as on the pitch... accept nothing less or move on... personally I would move on from Welbeck, Giroud and Walcott, even Ox if he isn't all in... I think the most intriguing player might be Perez, which runs counter to the thoughts in my head when he arrived late last summer... we need a
deep lying DM with quick feet and long ball potential,
midfielders who can counter quickly even when they are spread out and 4 or 5 players who know how to attack the lanes (kind of a cross between Barca, Dortmund and Monaco)... this is seriously an achievable goal, one that logically should have been achieved quite a few years ago... did no one in the Arsenal organization see the financial restructuring of the football universe... think of the players we could have had but we weren't willing to cough
up the dough only for those individuals to have their value double or triple within a 12 to 24 month period... even if just from an investment perspective these «no deals» represent a failure of monumental proportions... only if you cared, of course
The area that needs freshening
up is
MIDFIELD, Elneny and Ramsay are box to box
midfielders, Xhaka i consider to be a
deep creative
midfielder with DM duties, Coq is not a box to box or
deep creative mid fielder, but just a DM and must only be used as such (that is why coq / caz was good together).
Xhaka, who I like, or at least I like the Xhaka who plays for the Swiss national squad, has shown to be in way over his head in the premiership... of course he showed late in the year that he can stretch the field with the long ball but our squad isn't really set -
up for that style of play... most of his long passes are in the air not on the ground and our squad without Giroud, which should have been sold the minute the transfer window officially opened, is one of the smallest in England... we need someone who can pick out the runs of our forwards in the lanes and who is fast enough to come forward into space without conceding his defensive responsibilities... we rarely see him shoot or even be in a position on the field to do so, we rarely, if ever, see him used for set pieces and it appears that the only person at the club who has ever coached him
up when it comes to tackling is Coq, which explains his atrocious disciplinary record... maybe it's me but didn't you see him coming in and contributing more from an offensive perspective, with his killer left foot, than a
deep - lying
midfielder... if that wasn't the case we are the stupidest team alive for taking him over Kante
The Independent claim the Red Devils had been looking at Real Madrid ace Kroos as the ideal heir to Michael Carrick in that
deep - lying
midfield role, but that Jorginho is increasingly working his way
up Jose Mourinho's priority list.
When he is on the pitch RW is actually HECTOR BELLERIN, he got a licence to as par
up as possible with ramsey
deep inside the
midfield and a bit available to cover for HECTOR, which isn't the case with LW where Alexis hug the line then MONREAL doesn't need to far
up anytime.
Walcott cant play striker, he is good attacking from the sideways, there is no wc short striker in the modern game, aguero, messi are
deep lying attackers we do nt need a mobile striker thats why welbeck does nt suit us.Hold
up play allows attacking arsenal
midfielders freedom to score, so strikers like benteke, martinez, benzema could help giroud
Mario Suarez is a player who I would love to see move to the Emirates and take
up the
deep - lying
midfielder role, and The Express thinks this is now likely.
just wished we had Khedira or Cravalho in the lineup today... when I take a look at the line
up the only part that bothers me is Arteta as our holding
midfielder... Plus wished we had a new cb on the bench too... I am way too nervous regarding our defence, one small injury and we are in
deep shiiit
Keita could be the energetic driving force taking us forward, Jorginho could be the player to ping passes all around the park from a little bit
deeper and a new defensive
midfielder, if I had my way Wilfred Ndidi, could break the play
up and play the ball off to his two
midfielders.
His sudden improvement is partly the consequence of Leicester's improved organisation higher
up the pitch, with the forwards keeping the side compact, allowing the central
midfielders to drop
deep and protect the centre - backs closely.
Mason who looked a little unfamiliar with the left - sided
deep midfield role looked positive further
up the pitch making surging runs.
David Silva dropped
deeper into
midfield, while Kevin de Bruyne moved close to the Liverpool box, and the visitors
upped the intensity of their pressing, forcing the Reds into numerous errors.
The duo both earned first senior England call -
ups thanks to a string of fine displays as the
deep - lying
midfield two in Mauricio Pochettino's 4 -2-3-1 system.
They had chances and couldn't convert, we had fewer and took 2 of it, Sanogo had a good game, needs a lil more run in the side, could be a great alternative to giroud, loved his diagonal runs, which i haven't seen us do for a while, drew defenders away from our
midfielders, probablythe reason ozil had a good game, i mean, Giroud loves to come in
deep to get the ball, i don't see the need for that, his link
up play is not so good, neither can he dribble, like say a suarez or sturridge, so playing to ones strenght is better atimes, just stick to what you do best!
He is equally adept at stepping
up into
midfield and dropping back to form a
deep block.
With Toni Kroos reportedly unsettled at Real Madrid, Pogba may be required to take
up a
deeper role alongside Luka Modric and Casemiro, bringing the ball forward, creating chances with long balls and short passes and ensuring one of Europe's most individually dangerous
midfields doesn't lose any of its sense of deterrent.
Rasmus Elm was asked to sit
deeper than usual in the
midfield with Kim Kallstrom in trying to dictate the
midfield and spread play, while Seb Larsson and Ola Toivonen took
up their places on the wings to provide balls into the box.
But Flamini was dropping so
deep in front of the defence that he ended
up out of the
midfield itself.
On many occasions, this season as much as last, the Spaniard has dropped
deep and sometimes has left us with no target man
up front, leaving the
midfield with the responsibility of making goal scoring opportunities for themselves.
Juve's central
midfielders complement each other, with Sami Khedira covering the ground, and Miralem Pjanic circulating the ball and setting
up his teammates from
deep.
That he sends a further 31 %
up field and is accurate over distance makes him a tremendous asset
deep in
midfield and shows him to be as accomplished technically as he is physically.
Van Gaal, on the other hand, cleverly sees that his star player needs space to manoeuvre and by playing a
deeper midfield and a more direct style it allows him the opportunity to pick
up the ball and drive at the opposition defence.
It was two
deep banks of four and Henry on his own
up front, with Mathieu Flamini replacing Fabregas to add more discipline to the
midfield.
Luka Modric or Isco could play in the hole with a stronger,
deeper lying
midfield — perhaps Pepe shifting further
up the pitch.
The striker will drift out wide or come
deeper in the formation, dragging a centre back with him and opening
up a lane for a
midfield runner to burst in to the space created.