I do love the sinner and
I do hate the sin.
Not exact matches
so he came to give us life not to destroy us, but what he
hates is
sin and
sin has
done so much damage it must be detroyed before it kills us..
God
hate sin God is God of many things one is love, peace, joy wrath, judgement, don't forget he destroy the world becaused of
sin, Sodom and Gomorral
If you're a Christian and believe that Jesus was pre-ordained to die for our
sins and save the world by
doing so, doesn't it seem just plain wrong to blame and
hate the people who were the supposed instruments of «God's plan»?
But until we come to the end of ourselves then we are going to
do and say what we want, even as it was with me: It's one thing to be a heathen, even as I was, but a whole other ball game to set our hearts on God and His truth; yet, that can only come when we are sick and tired of being sick and tired of our own lives and we just give up, we know then who has given up by the one they advocate for, even has given place to: Paul said; with my heart I want to
do what is right, but my flesh
does what I
hate: This is when God's grace is sufficient, because our hearts are right with God, but our flesh is not: There is a war going on within these temples, therefore; even as our flesh wins out to
do what we
hate, our hearts are set on God and His ways which has been established in the Word of Truth, which then causes us to stand and speak forth what we believe, even as this causes a rending to happen within us, for Christ to be formed in us this needs to be, as we come up in His glories even for a better resurrection for them who believe: The heart wars against our flesh, even as Christ wars against the man of
sin within: For out of the abundance of our hearts our mouth doth speak, therefore; if we speak not the Wholesome Words of our Lord, Then our hearts are still wicked: But to advocate for wickedness instead of Christ, one has become a teacher of lawlessness, he then advocates for the man of
sin: Many who have come out of religion has
done this, as they went from one mountain top «from the extreme right» of self exaltation (Religion) to the other mountain top «to the extreme left» of the (Heathen) and missed the valley in - between that is takes to humble us: One extreme to the other, and missed Jesus: Jesus is taking ones through the valley's to strip us down of all who we are before exalting us to be just as He, even as the Christ in us overcomes that man of
sin (Adam) through theses valleys of contrast that cause a rending to happen within; and when we are rent in two, we stand on His word of truth, so we too can become one with Him, even as Jesus is with our Father: This is how Christ is formed in us: Thank - you Father; in Jesus Name Alexandria
Let God deal with Gays if its a
sin, he
does a much better job at it then a mere mortal of
Hate and Fear.
Religion teaches people THAT crap about the universe creator which is TOTALLY NOT what either the 10 commandments were about OR what they are for or all about and I can 100 percent prove it so religious people
HATE me because... by God I
do the 10 commmandment and since I
do the 10 commandment and work so hard to always
do the 10 commandment... YOUR burning in hell cause you broke one and
SINNED... its is ridiculas... what religion HAS
done regarding what God gave Moses... in the old testement.
I don't believe in preaching
hate, I understand they are trying to teach to
hate the
sin not the person... but they aren't
doing that.
As for the Christian
hate you speak of, I concur that most Christians say they believe the «
hate the
sin but not the sinner» but in practice they
do alot of sinner
hating.
I agree that God didn't pursue Adam to smash his face in, never suggested that or alluded to it, but there is no confusion where
sin leads and there is no doubt about the consequences off those who love their lives, they will lose it where as those that
hate their lives will find it... So to conclude, Jesus and the father are not two different things, they are both the very same in as much as God desires all to be saved and has shown the way to salvation.
Christians
sin (unfortunately), but they must turn from the
sin, and
hate it, and not plan on
doing it, and not be proud of it.
Jean Why
do Christians always roll out the
hate the
sin not the sinner rubbish.
God doesn't
hate the person but
hates the
sin.
We
do nt
hate the sinner just
hate the
sin.
but if anyone truley had God in thier heart and had faith in the Lord... simply by folding your hands and asking God to enter your heart... (try it he will be there for you, and you will feel the joy of His love), then they would never
do things like this... he obviously was not a person who loved God because No one with God in thier heart would want to
do thing s like that... you
HATE sin when you truely love God, No ones perfect though, even those who belive in God we all stray from our beliefs, its human nature and the devil takes advantage of this.
The ho mose xual abomination still required a death sentence and still
does as
does every
sin, not in
hate but in justice for Love to be pure and Godly the
sin must be punished.
On the other hand, it doesn't mean one
hates homosexuals if they see it as a
sin.
The flesh covers the heart like a veil and will even drag it to hell if it is let... that «s why Christ takes that veil away so we can at last live from the heart (why
do you think you
hate it when you
sin — it «s no longer you who
sin, that «s not your true heart — its the flesh!).
Ok but can god take away a person from hell and put him in heaven and if god loves us so much then why he doesn't destroy satun or put him in prison forever and why doesn't he tells the holy spirit to forgive whatever any person says just like him and Jesus i want to know thst but i noticed in all your replies except one that you were telling me everything i was asking except this in short if i say «he allows us to
hate him» and i also want to know that if a person is sent in hell for his
sins then will he go back to heaven after completing his punishment or stay there forever and also will any person who have commited the unforgivable
sin one day be freed and allowed to go to heven or be reborn on Earth and if god has infinite love for us why don't he force us to belive in Jesus just before dying and then as he goes to heven show Jesus to him and then give him a rebirth as soon as his turn comes and then countinue this becaude going to heaven would be better much more than going to hell especialy for those who have commited the unforgivable
sin
They
do not accept the clause «
hate the
sin but not the sinner» they
do not see there is any difference
God doesn't
hate gay people, God
hates the
Sin....
i
did a a cartoon a year or two ago which said something like «love the sinner,
hate the
sin... judge them anyway.»
Obviously, Jews who
do not believe Jesus was the messiah
do not believe what Christians believe about him: that Jesus became the scapegoat and the Passover «lamb of God» to atone for our
sins, thus separating
sins from sinners and enabling God and us to love sinners while
hating sins.
If I had not
done among them the works which none other man
did, they had not had
sin: but now have they both seen and
hated both me and my Father.»
This distinction between sinners and
sins enables us to align our wills with God's in
hating sins more than we are wont to
do (How lukewarm and soft we are toward
sin!
I am intrigued that the people I know who use that statement all also frequently quote «
hate the
sin, love the sinner» (this is NOT from the Bible), except they don't possess any love for the people who fit their definition of «sinner».
1 Corinthians 11:14 (Men should not have long hair) 1 Corinthians 14:34 - 35 (Women should remain silent in church) Deuteronomy 13:6 - 16 (Death penalty for Apostasy) Deuteronomy 20:10 - 14 (Attack city, kill all men, keep women, children as spoils of war) Deuteronomy 21:18 - 21 (Death penalty for a rebellious son) Deuteronomy 22:19 - 25 (Kill non - virgin / kill adulterers / rapists) Ecclesiastes 1:18 (Knowledge is bad) Exodus 21:1 - 7 (Rules for buying slaves) Exodus 35:2 (Death for working on the Sabbath) Ezekiel 9:5 - 6 (Murder women / children) Genesis 1:3,4,5,11,12,16 (God creates light, night and day, plants grow, before creating sun) Genesis 3:16 (Man shall rule over woman) Jeremiah 19:9 (Cannibalism) John 3:18 (He who believes in Jesus is saved, he that doesn't is condemned) John 5:46 - 47 (Jesus references Old Testament) Leviticus 3:1 - 17 (Procedure for animal sacrifice) Leviticus 19:19 (No mixed fabrics in clothing) Leviticus 19:27 (Don't trim hair or beard) Leviticus 19:28 (No tattoos) Leviticus 20:9 (Death for cursing father or mother) Leviticus 20:10 (Death for adultery) Leviticus 20:13 (Death for gay men) Leviticus 21:17 - 23 (Ugly people, lame, dwarfs, not welcome on altar) Leviticus 25:45 (Strangers can be bought as slaves) Luke 12:33 (Sell your possessions, and give to the poor) Luke 14:26 (You must
hate your family and yourself to follow Jesus) Mark 10:11 - 12 (Leaving your spouse for another is adultery) Mark 10:21 - 22 (Sell your possessions and give to the poor) Mark 10:24 - 25 (Next to impossible for rich to get into heaven) Mark 16:15 - 16 (Those who hear the gospel and don't believe go to hell) Matthew 5:17 - 19 (Jesus says he has come to enforce the laws of the Old Testament) Matthew 6:5 - 6 (Pray in secret) Matthew 6:18 (Fast for Lent in secret) Matthew 9:12 (The healthy don't need a doctor, the sick
do) Matthew 10:34 - 37 (Jesus comes with sword, turns families against each other, those that love family more than him are not worthy) Matthew 12:30 (If you're not with Jesus, you're against him) Matthew 15:4 (Death for not honouring your father and mother) Matthew 22:29 (Jesus references Old Testament) Matthew 24:37 (Jesus references Old Testament) Numbers 14:18 (Following generations blamed for the sins of previous ones) Psalms 137:9 (Violence against children) Revelation 6:13 (The stars fell to earth like figs) Revelation 21:8 (Unbelievers, among others, go to hell) 1 Timothy 2:11 - 12 (Women subordinate and must remain silent) 1 Timothy 5:8 (If you don't provide for your family, you are an infide
do) Matthew 10:34 - 37 (Jesus comes with sword, turns families against each other, those that love family more than him are not worthy) Matthew 12:30 (If you're not with Jesus, you're against him) Matthew 15:4 (Death for not honouring your father and mother) Matthew 22:29 (Jesus references Old Testament) Matthew 24:37 (Jesus references Old Testament) Numbers 14:18 (Following generations blamed for the
sins of previous ones) Psalms 137:9 (Violence against children) Revelation 6:13 (The stars fell to earth like figs) Revelation 21:8 (Unbelievers, among others, go to hell) 1 Timothy 2:11 - 12 (Women subordinate and must remain silent) 1 Timothy 5:8 (If you don't provide for your family, you are an infidel)
Jeremy Myers, i think you are wrong and David is right, so many out there are preaching you can live any way you want and be right that Grace covers any
sin, they really believe that, that is not what the bible says, God was very concerned about
sin so much he sent Jesus his son to die on a cross for us, if we accept Jesus as our savor then we are to obey his commandments, not break them, we are to live a righteous and holy life as possible, the bible plainly list a whole list of things if we live in will not to to heaven unless we repent, if we die while in these
sins, we will not go to heaven, what is the difference, between someone who said a prayer and someone who
did not, and they are living the same way, none, i think, if we are truly saved it should be hard to
do these things let alone live and
do them everyday, i would be afraid to tell people that it
does not matte grace covers their
sins, i really think it is the slip ups that we are convicted of by the Holy Spirit and we ask for forgivness, how can anyones heart be right with God and they have sex all the time out of marriage, lie, break every commandment of God, i don't think this is meaning grace covers those
sins, until they repent and ask for forgiveness, a lot of people will end up in hell because preachers teach Grace the wrong way,, and those preachers will answer to God for leading these people the wrong way, not saying you are one of them, but be careful, everything we teach or preach must line up with the word of God, God
hates sin,
Do you teach people to
hate sin with a passion?
TL; DR: 1) A born again believer doesn't
sin 100 % willfully because their Spirit is of God who
hates sin 2) The indwelling of the Holy Spirit causes sanctification 3) The indwelling of the Holy Spirit can not be replaced by a try - hard theology; it has to be the real thing 4) Whoever has the Holy Spirit can not be snatched out of our Father's hand 5) We sometimes get into argument over misunderstanding, let us pray before replying and seek the Lord before judging; let us be righteous in our judgement
But some of the
sins we
do them knowing that we are committing a
sin, this
sin are adultery, murder,
hate and etc. one thing that I realized from most christian is that, we use grace of God to defend ourselves from heavy
sins that we are committing, and we are deceiving ourselves.
The way you describe
sin makes complete sense (the fact the
sin hurts are lives and thats why god
hates sin) to sum it all up im starting to believe that jesus died for are
sins, so that everyone goes to heaven, i
do nt think people have to believe in him to go there.
JeanneO, the reason you and all the other
sinning non-believers
hate Jesus and want to convince yourselves that he's a fairy tale is because you know your lies don't hold water and that Jesus is truth.
I
hate my
sin, and
did not enjoy doubting and falling into unbelief.
Señora Julia, christians don't
hate gays, they love the sinner, but
hate the
sin.
A number of more conservative leaders have expressed a nervousness about speaking out, for fear of being pilloried in the secular press, who certainly don't understand the rhetoric of «love the sinner,
hate the
sin», or getting lumped in with Westboro Baptist Church and their appalling «God
Hates Fags» signs.
Christians
do nt
hate gays, muslims murder gays, christians just
hate our
sin because they know it hurts us
pah I'm falling away — I'm a liberal who's been chameleoned into a conservative and doesn't want to give up on God, but
hates the doctrine of Hell (and knows it's a
sin)..
Christians rant that they don't
hate the sinner, just the
sin.
Your
hate blinds you such that you continue to slander me and others here who have nothing to
do with xxxchurch.com other than I see them as a valid ministry that loves people in the Name of Jesus and frees them from the
sin you
hate so much.
Do you
hate God because He created Adam with the capacity to choose to
sin and He knew that Adam would choose to
sin and that all other men would be born into a fallen nature?
Is it possible and after reading about it i kept on thinking «i will sell to my soul for 20 carats get out shut up i will never ever sell my soul to you oh god please help me and this is continuing for a few days i am afraid that i have sold my sold to the devil have i please help and still i think god's way of allowing others to
hate him us much worse even you know and can easily think think about much better punishments like rebirth after being punished for all the
sins in life and i am feeling put on the
sin of those who committed the unforgiviable
sin (the early 0th century priests) imagine them burning in hell fire till now for 2000 years hopelessly screaming to god for help i can't belive the mercy of god are they forgiven even though commiting this
sin keans going to hell for entinity thank you and congralutions i think the 7 year tribulation periodvis over in 18th century the great commect shooting and in 19th century the sun became dark for a day and moon was not visible on the earth but now satun has the domination over me those who don't belive in jesus crist i used to belive in him but now after knowing a lot in science it is getting harharder to belive in him even though i know that he exsists and i only belived in him not that he died for me in the cross and also not for eternal life and i still
sin as much as i used to before but only a little reduced and i didn't accept satan as my master but what can i
do because those who knowingly
sin a lot and don't belive in jesus christ has to accept satan as their master because he only teaches us that even though he is evil he gives us complete freedom but thr followers of jesus and god only have freedom because they can
sin only with in a limit and no more but recive their reward after their life in heaven but the followers of satun have to go to hell butbi don't want to go to hell and be ruled by the cruel tryant but still why didn't god destroy satun long way before and i think it was also Adam and eve's fault also they could have blamed satan and could have also get their punishment reduced but they didn't and today we are seeing the result
The proverbial «love the sinner,
hate the
sin» comes to mind, but unfortunately we often seem to get that a little mixed up, don't we?
Sorry to tell ya, but the Jews succeded in the death of Jesus... what I don't understand is your use of that as a basis for
hating Jews... You reveal your complete ignorance fo salvation... such as without the death and resurrection of Jesus -LCB- which ceretainly
did happen as I am this day a witness of his resurrection -RCB-, there woudl be no asis for the gentiles for salvation... you see his blood was shed for the atoning sacrifice for the
sins of all the world not just gentile but Jew as well..
it is called standing for the gospel it onlycomes across as
hate toyou because homosexuality is your pet
sin i pray that God really
does set you free from this so that you can really know him Brian Cordova
The law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold into slavery to
sin... I
do not
do the things I want to
do; I
do things that I
hate....
His issue isn't with
hating sin, it's that Christians
do not engage the second part, «love the sinner.»
There are differences among among sinners — there is the one who «practices
sin;» and there is the one who «
hates» his propensity to
sin, as in Romans 7:14 - 25 — expressing the frustration that we can will what is right, but can not
do it.