Not exact matches
The fact that the observations have a «memory» from month to month (because the
ocean is slow to change
temperature) allows us to predict the annual mean from the year - to - date
average (which implicitly includes the ENSO
effect).
Dan — if none of the
oceans» warmth comes from the greenhouse
effect, approximately what would the
average temperature of world's
oceans ocean be?
But even when carbon dioxide does make its way out of the atmosphere, Earth's natural systems can release other carbon dioxide molecules that were previously stored in the
oceans / land back into the atmosphere, making the full
effect of carbon dioxide emissions on surface
temperatures much longer than this 5 - 200 year
average.
Or limit further to a significant portion of the
ocean that would
effect average global
temperature the most.
Global Warming is the century - scale rise in the
average temperature of the Earth's surface,
oceans, and atmosphere due to an increase in the greenhouse
effect.
That is why for Earth's «greenhouse
effect» the «
average»
temperature of the
oceans provides a better thermodynamic frame of reference to work from.
Finally, the fact that both the
oceans and the atmosphere are at their all time highest
temperatures over the past 10 year
average from instrument record and through extrapolation to near - term paleodata, we can see a remarkable consistent
effect of what increasing greenhouse gases do to overall alterations in Earth's non-tectonic energy storage.
Hunter, All that you say may be true but the combined
effect of all of these factors is so small that, as is shown, an excellent correlation with the measured
average global
temperatures is obtained when they are ignored and the only factors considered are time - integral of sunspots and a
temperature oscillation (the oscillation is probably from
ocean turnover).
The most likely candidate for that climatic variable force that comes to mind is solar variability (because I can think of no other force that can change or reverse in a different trend often enough, and quick enough to account for the historical climatic record) and the primary and secondary
effects associated with this solar variability which I feel are a significant player in glacial / inter-glacial cycles, counter climatic trends when taken into consideration with these factors which are, land /
ocean arrangements, mean land elevation, mean magnetic field strength of the earth (magnetic excursions), the mean state of the climate (
average global
temperature), the initial state of the earth's climate (how close to interglacial - glacial threshold condition it is) the state of random terrestrial (violent volcanic eruption, or a random atmospheric circulation / oceanic pattern that feeds upon itself possibly) / extra terrestrial events (super-nova in vicinity of earth or a random impact) along with Milankovitch Cycles.
On the other hand, if you removed all the Nitrogen from the terrestrial atmosphere (which is not a «greenhouse gas»), you'd readily get a Snowball Earth with a mile thick ice covering all the
oceans while if you put twice as much Nitrogen there,
average surface
temperature would rise to 314 K (41 °C) with no additional «greenhouse
effect» needed whatsoever.
Until climatologists can properly make models that reflect the entire global history and take into account plate position and how high the plates ride, oceanic levels due to this and the position of
oceans, overall insolation, overall daylength and its
effects on
average global
temperature and factor in known carbon dioxide levels over that time period, then they will be unable to give any correlation between current carbon dioxide levels and global
temperature.
The fact that the observations have a «memory» from month to month (because the
ocean is slow to change
temperature) allows us to predict the annual mean from the year - to - date
average (which implicitly includes the ENSO
effect).
http://illconsidered.blogspot.com/2006/04/historically-co2-never-causes.html 100 years of shift does not factor into the larger scale phenomena http://illconsidered.blogspot.com/2006/01/one-hundred-years-is-not-enough.html Until climatologists can properly make models that reflect the entire global history and take into account plate position and how high the plates ride, oceanic levels due to this and the position of
oceans, overall insolation, overall daylength and its
effects on
average global
temperature and factor in known carbon dioxide levels over that time period, then they will be unable to give any correlation between current carbon dioxide levels and global
temperature.
If heat flow into the deeper
ocean (under 300m) is driven independently of Global
Average Surface
temperature or the «greenhouse»
effect, then we have no reason to suppose that the latter produces any «global warming» at all.
Without this greenhouse
effect, the
average surface
temperature would be 255 degrees kelvin -LRB--18 degrees Celsius or 0 degrees Fahrenheit); a
temperature so low that all water on Earth would freeze, the
oceans would turn into ice and life, as we know it, would not exist.
To explore the long - term
effect of future
ocean conditions on E. huxleyi, we grew strain CCMP 371 in continuous culture under simultaneously elevated pCO2 and
temperature: «present»
ocean conditions (383 ± 43 µatm pCO2 and 20.0 ± 0.1 °C
average across all generation points) and «future»
ocean conditions (833 ± 68 µatm pCO2 and 24.0 ± 0.2 °C
average across all generation points; see table 1 for details of conditions and carbonate system parameters).