It appears that the Hansen Scenario B performed fairly well, with an overestimated trend consistent with
its estimate of climate sensitivity at what is now considered to be toward the high end of the likely range (although of course, Hansen continues to estimate climate sensitivity at higher levels than most other observers).
I would also bet that Hansen's
estimate of climate sensitivity at 3 degrees Centigrade is too high.
I have discussed
the estimates of climate sensitivity at more length in connection to the climateprediction.net results in another post.
Not exact matches
The IPCC wishes to destroy the world economy and starve the world
of energy and food
at a cost
of $ 76 trillion over the next 40 year's (UN
estimate), to keep global temps below 2C, when even their wildly pessimistic and disconfirmed projections (formally known as predictions) now suggest that
climate sensitivity could be as low as 1.5 C, without spending a dime.
Therefore studies based on observed warming have underestimated
climate sensitivity as they did not account for the greater response to aerosol forcing, and multiple lines
of evidence are now consistent in showing that
climate sensitivity is in fact very unlikely to be
at the low end
of the range in recent
estimates.
About our
estimates of the
climate transfer
sensitivity to solar variations
at 11 years and 22 years, Dr. Benestad makes again a great confusion by misquoting and misunderstanding our paper.
In your sixth last line, you've put the Annan and Hargreaves (A&H)
estimate of the lower bound
of the 95 % confidence limits for
climate sensitivity at 1.9 ºC.
In fact, scientists have long recognized the importance
of solar variability as one
of the factors governing
climate (see the very scholarly review
of the subject by Bard and Frank, available here
at EPSL or here as pdf) An understanding
of solar variability needs to be (and is) taken into account in attribution
of climate change
of the past century, and in attempts to
estimate climate sensitivity from recent
climate variations.
I think that some comment on my energy balance based
climate sensitivity estimate of 1.6 - 1.7 °C (details
at http://www.webcitation.org/6DNLRIeJH), which underpinned Matt Ridley's WSJ op - ed, would have been relevant and
of interest.
«note that what is done with these
estimates of climate sensitivity for LGM
climate is to use the state
of the
climate already in place
at the LGM — including the ice albedo.»
A combination
of circumstances makes model - based
sensitivity estimates of distant times and different
climates hard to do, but
at least we are getting a good education about it.
Using Mg / Ca paleothermometry from the planktonic foraminifera Globigerinoides ruber from the past 500 k.y.
at Ocean Drilling Program (ODP) Site 871 in the western Pacific warm pool, we
estimate the tropical Pacific
climate sensitivity parameter (λ) to be 0.94 — 1.06 °C (W m − 2) − 1, higher than that predicted by model simulations
of the Last Glacial Maximum or by models
of doubled greenhouse gas concentration forcing.
In your sixth last line, you've put the Annan and Hargreaves (A&H)
estimate of the lower bound
of the 95 % confidence limits for
climate sensitivity at 1.9 ºC.
Other ways that the standard or «consensus» calculations bias the
climate sensitivity upward also exist and are also not negligible (or
at least there is no scientific case that they are negligible), but for now it is sufficient to think about, and try to
estimate, the magnitude
of the increase in H2O and latent heat flow from surface to upper troposphere.
The obvious answer (from someone who is indeed receptive to arguments for lower - than - consensus
climate sensitivities) is that it was on a par with recent hot years because temperatures
at US latitudes
of the globe really weren't as much cooler in the 1930s / 1940s (compared to the present) than GISS / Hadley's best
estimates (from often sketchy global coverage) suggest.
Your attempt to
estimate equilibrium
climate sensitivity from the 20th C won't work because a) the forcings are not that well known (so the error in your
estimate is large), b) the
climate is not in equilibrium — you need to account for the uptake
of heat in the ocean
at least.
Using Mg / Ca paleothermometry from the planktonic foraminifera Globigerinoides ruber from the past 500 k.y.
at Ocean Drilling Program (ODP) Site 871 in the western Pacific warm pool, we
estimate the tropical Pacific
climate sensitivity parameter (λ) to be 0.94 — 1.06 °C (W m − 2) − 1, higher than that predicted by model simulations
of the Last Glacial Maximum or by models
of doubled greenhouse gas concentration forcing.
As we discussed
at the time, those results were used to conclude that the Earth System
Sensitivity (the total response to a doubling
of CO2 after the short and long - term feedbacks have kicked in) was around 9ºC — much larger than any previous
estimate (which is ~ 4.5 ºC)-- and inferred that the committed
climate change with constant concentrations was 3 - 7ºC (again much larger than any other
estimate — most are around 0.5 - 1ºC).
Maybe the word «equilibrium» should be omitted from all
climate sensitivity estimates, from the shortest term values (TCR) to the longest and most comprehensive (Earth System), since all the different forms
of sensitivity estimation seem, in my view, to be looking
at somewhat different phenomena and should not necessarily yield the same values.
Therefore studies based on observed warming have underestimated
climate sensitivity as they did not account for the greater response to aerosol forcing, and multiple lines
of evidence are now consistent in showing that
climate sensitivity is in fact very unlikely to be
at the low end
of the range in recent
estimates.
One earlier comment tangentially alluded to this, but there are a lot
of gaps that need to be filled in to say what such a result might mean for attempts
at estimating climate sensitivity.
A detailed reanalysis is presented
of a «Bayesian»
climate parameter study (Forest et al., 2006) that
estimates climate sensitivity (ECS) jointly with effective ocean diffusivity and aerosol forcing, using optimal fingerprints to compare multi-decadal observations with simulations by the MIT 2D
climate model
at varying settings
of the three
climate parameters.
Is there some simple intuitive explanation
of how this pipeline warming is
estimated with respect to an equilibrium
climate sensitivity at a doubling
of CO2 equivalent (thus including methane, ozone, aerosols, CFCs...)?
Your
estimates of climate sensitivity come from the IPCC, which assumes that aerosols will continue to provide a very strong cooling effect that offsets about half
of the warming from CO2, but you are talking about time frames in which we have stopped burning fossil fuels, so is it appropriate to continue to assume the presence
of cooling aerosols
at these future times?
What I still miss is, for
climate sensitivity at 2xCO2 (540 ppm) we're discussing here, how you «jump» from a best
estimate of 3 °C to 6 °C.
In essence Tung & Zhou are dining
at the denialist's last - chance saloon by invoking a 60 - year natural cycle (their cycle
of choice being AMO) resulting in a reduced anthropogenic influence on
climate, although they make sure to not directly challenge
climate sensitivity by asserting that their findings will impact on assessment
of net anthropogenic forcing and leave
climate sensitivity estimates unchallenged.
(ppm) Year
of Peak Emissions Percent Change in global emissions Global average temperature increase above pre-industrial
at equilibrium, using «best
estimate»
climate sensitivity CO 2 concentration
at stabilization (2010 = 388 ppm) CO 2 - eq.
We already looked
at how
climate skeptics rely on a selective reading
of the literature to highlight low
estimates of climate sensitivity and use the divergence between
climate models and measured temperatures to make conjectural statements about
climate models being too sensitive to CO2, without considering other factors that could account for such divergence.
Since we can not do controlled experiments,
climate science is an OBSERVATIONAL science we can't put the
climate in a beaker, we can only look
at past temperatures and past forcings to CONSTRAIN our
estimate of sensitivity.
The right - hand panel shows ranges
of global average temperature change above pre-industrial, using (i) «best
estimate»
climate sensitivity of 3 °C (black line in middle
of shaded area), (ii) upper bound
of likely range
of climate sensitivity of 4.5 °C (red line
at top
of shaded area)(iii) lower bound
of likely range
of climate sensitivity of 2 °C (blue line
at bottom
of shaded area).
However, because
climate scientists
at the time believed a doubling
of atmospheric CO2 would cause a larger global heat imbalance than today's
estimates, the actual
climate sensitivities were approximatly 18 % lower (for example, the «Best» model
sensitivity was actually closer to 2.1 °C for doubled CO2).
However, as in the FAR, because
climate scientists
at the time believed a doubling
of atmospheric CO2 would cause a larger global heat imbalance than current
estimates, the actual «best
estimate» model
sensitivity was closer to 2.1 °C for doubled CO2.
Using the IPCC
climate sensitivity of 3.2 C, the CO2 level by 2100 would need to double by 2100, from today's 392 to 784 ppmv, to reach this warming (the high side IPCC «scenario and storyline» A2 is
at this level, with
estimated warming
of 3.4 C above the 1980 - 1999 average, or ~ 3.2 C above today's temperature).
(By this I mean could one show a perceptible impact on our planet's future
climate at a reasonable cost per degree C global warming averted a)
at an
estimated 2xCO2
climate sensitivity of 3C or b)
at a CS
of 1C?)
Assuming the same
climate sensitivity, Lindzen's
estimate of a 2.5 °C drop for a -30 W / m2 forcing would imply that currently doubling CO2 would warm the planet by only a third
of a degree
at equilibrium, which is well outside the bounds
of IPCC
estimates and even very low by most skeptical standards.
If however you're referring to the two - year - long process by which I arrived
at the poster, in order to see the pre-1970 oscillations more clearly I detrended HadCRUT3 with an
estimate of CO2 - induced global warming, without however committing to any particular
climate sensitivity.
-- I believe the
estimates of climate sensitivity can be improved to the point
of usefulness — we should
at least try.
As a result, the
climate sensitivity for a doubling
of CO2 is
estimated to be 0.7 K (with the confidence interval 0.5 K − 1.3 K
at 99 % levels).
NOTE 1: It is interesting that the IPCC mimics also think they can successfully ignore the evolving research showing the threshold
estimates of climate sensitivities to 2XCO2 are now
at more moderate to low levels.
At that point, we either have to hope
climate sensitivity is on the very low end
of the range that scientists have
estimated, or we're busting through the 2 °C limit.
The Lewis and Curry paper said the best
estimate for equilibrium
climate sensitivity — the change in global mean surface temperature
at equilibrium that is caused by a doubling
of the atmospheric CO2 concentration — was 1.64 degrees.
As a result, the Cess
climate sensitivity parameter should not be interpreted
at its face value for
estimates of model equilibrium
climate sensitivity.
If the Earth's true emission temperature (which occurs somewhere
at altitude in the troposphere) is less than the 255 K predicted by theory (assuming an albedo 0.306), then the Planck parameter may well be considerably less than the IPCC's value, in which event on this ground alone
climate sensitivity may be well below its central
estimate of 3.26 K per CO2 doubling.
I am amazed
at how
estimates of climate sensitivity keep moving down towards the views
of Professor Richard Lindzen.
Your last point, however, about Schwartz revising his
estimate of climate sensitivity is not relevant
at all to my first posting.
The fact that others have created pdfs from
sensitivity estimates and that economists uses these pdfs is not a justification; rather,
climate researchers and statisticians need to take a close look
at this to see whether this line
of reasoning is flawed.
Girma, the equilibrium
climate sensitivity (
estimated at about 3C per CO2 doubling; or about 0.8 C per W / m ^ 2) is not related to the rate
of increase, but to how far the increase goes until the Earth is back in energy balance.
Perhaps The Economist should take a look
at the best
of the best among
climate scientists — notably James Hansen who warns that Equilibrium Climate Sensitivity is at least 3 degrees Celsius and that this estimate is probably conser
climate scientists — notably James Hansen who warns that Equilibrium
Climate Sensitivity is at least 3 degrees Celsius and that this estimate is probably conser
Climate Sensitivity is
at least 3 degrees Celsius and that this
estimate is probably conservative.
In the report, they find reasons to dismiss the many studies and varying approaches that arrive
at higher
climate sensitivity estimates, and fail to discuss the shortcomings
of the lower
sensitivity studies that they prefer.
If one attributes half
of the observed warming (instead
of only 7 %) to natural forcing, this would put the 2xCO2
climate sensitivity at 0.8 °C, or very close to the Lindzen and Spencer
estimates.