In fact, from my reading of scripture, it is difficult to find one reference to
an eternal punishment in hell in the whole of the OT.
People often confuse the term perish here with
eternal punishment in hell.
That is to say, it excludes the cruel and godless idea of the popular belief in
an eternal punishment in hell.
And of course since atheism is Absolute, Complete and Total NONSENSE, the atheists lacks the certainty in a Resurrection, in Eternal Rewards in Heaven and
Eternal Punishment in the other Place that IS NOT Heaven.
They are usually literalists when it concerns the second coming of Christ, the resurrection of Jesus as an historical event, the existence of
eternal punishment in hell.
I just don't read the word «fire» in Jude as a reference to
eternal punishment in a firey location...
And once the Emperor made his decision, the losing side was often condemned, not only to
eternal punishment in hell, but sometimes even to death by stoning, beheading, hanging, or by what became the most popular method: burning at the stake.
God is not dangling your sin over your head as a way of threatening you with
eternal punishment in hell.
God made a choice — he chose some individuals to be saved unto everlasting blessedness in heaven, and he chose others to pass over, allowing them to suffer the consequences of their sins,
eternal punishment in hell (Sproul, Grace Unknown, 141).
I too, have dealt with blasphemous thoughts against the Holy Spirit, so much, in fact, that I actually began to resent the Holy Spirit for even existing, because the very mention of him in the Bible would fill my mind with terror over blaspheming Him and thereby fearing unforgiveness and
eternal punishment in hell.
Some preachers believe that the only way people of today are going to come to God is if they fear
eternal punishment in the afterlife.
Not exact matches
I just don't (personally) see any redemptive value
in the teachings of
eternal punishment.
And The Father Almighty and His Beloved Son, The Lord Jesus Christ and His Holy Southern Queen have struck u and punished the Serpent and its follower
in the Lake of Fire has brimstone and sulfur and unquenchable fire that is the
Eternal Punishment for those Capital
Punishment!
But (for me) it's far wiser to stick to concrete consequences (like playing on the freeway, or choosing to play
in a playground instead) rather than resorting to «
eternal»
punishments or rewards
in order for people to make proper decisions.
In Christianity, there is eternal punishment for «crimes» committed in a finite lif
In Christianity, there is
eternal punishment for «crimes» committed
in a finite lif
in a finite life.
There are loads of justifications from christians who really do believe
in the
eternal punishment thing.
By even 1 mortal sin — a fully - knowing and fully - deliberate act against God's law (the 10 commandments)-- you reject God, too, and thereby merit
eternal separation from God and
punishment in Hell.
Meanwhile,
in early Christianity, you had guys like Origen who preached and teached Universal Restoration / Reconciliation (the belief that, one day, God will reconcile / restore humanity to himself, that ALL will be saved); he did not believe
in eternal punishment.
Perhaps god doesn't like a bunch of mindless sheeple, and lets
in only people who think for themselves and live honest and compassionate lives because they think it's a good idea, not because they fear
eternal punishment.
Also, what makes you so sure that when given
eternal punishment automatically means
eternal in duration and not
eternal as meaning that it is just simply
in reference to God's
punishment because one of the names for God is
eternal like Alpha and Omega.
They move chunks of information around
in ways nothing else can — as payloads that convey intolerance, suppression of ideas and opinions, even violence at times, and persecution of dissenters, all with the weight behind it of an all - powerful God and it's
eternal rewards and
punishments that are conveniently hidden
in an unknowable afterlife.
This almost makes me wish I believed
in an afterlife so that i could fell this hateful nasty b a s t a r d could finally get the
eternal punishment he deserves.
That is something to worry about — that there are people who can't imagine living for the common good and who feel they must believe
in eternal punishment else they will do things that they think we all should fear.
What religion offers: — The opportunity to avoid
eternal punishment for not worshiping / believing
in my god (not worried enough to care)-- An explanation for the universe and why we are here (I'll take the knowledge gained from the application of the scientific method, but thanks)-- Living forever
in heavenly bliss (I am content with this life)-- The opportunity to divide humanity based upon different belief systems (There is enough dividing us already)-- Purpose, a code of ethics, and fulfillment (I have that already, without religion)-- Develop a personal relationship with god (I've never seen or heard from any gods nor have I seen any independantly verified scientifically collected peer reviewed proof.
God's people do not take comfort
in the
eternal punishment for that rejection, but we do take comfort that God will be glorified eternally by all men, whether
in heaven with Him by His grace and love, or separated as receivers of His righteous wrath.
We are just tiny beings
in Gods universe and he doesn't owe you anything but he loves you anyways so why send yourself to
eternal punishment when it's so easy to believe!
God nbever punshed children for their parents crimes... death isnot always a
punishment... cause the ultimate
punishment is
eternal life
in hell... you are looking at wrong perspective there here and now
in a temporary world
Jesus» teaching fits together
in a similar way: «
eternal punishment» consists of torment followed by destruction — like a combined sentence of hard labour followed by execution.
If only those who have discovered that could be left alone to bask
in that discovery, but so often they are told that they are heretics and doomed for
eternal punishment.
To me, a perfect judgement and sentence of the evil person would require more than just a
punishment in eternal flame, since he would still be capable of cursing God, fostering hatred and perversion and all sorts of other humanly sinful ways while he was being eternally tormented.
The good news, the Gospel, is that while God is holy and we are sinners, and sin deserves
punishment, God, out of His great love for us, sent His one and only Son, Jesus Christ to die
in our place for our sin so that anyone who wants
eternal life
in heaven with God can simply believe
in Jesus Christ for it and it will be given to them.
The one that merely fears the
punishment, for him it can not remain eternally true, for there is nothing
eternal in him, since the Eternal can only be in him if he wills the Good in
eternal in him, since the
Eternal can only be in him if he wills the Good in
Eternal can only be
in him if he wills the Good
in truth.
God selects those to be saved
in relation to the number of fallen angels, and the
eternal punishment of hell is prepared for the condemned and therefore unrepentant sinners.
Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them, having
in like manner with these given themselves over to fornication and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the
punishment of
eternal fire.»
«Until we know the power of divine grace, we read
in the Bible concerning
eternal punishment, and we think it is too heavy and too hard, and we are apt to kick against it, and find out some heretic or other who teaches us another doctrine; but when the soul is really quickened by divine grace, and made to feel the weight of sin, it thinks the bottomless pit none too deep, and the
punishment of hell none too severe for sin such as it has committed.
You crave
punishment because it makes you feel somehow superior, or correct
in your discovery of «God's Word»
in a book which was written and edited and re-edited (as well as redacted) by countless rulers and scholars along the way, each wishing to have some stake
in the claim of the
Eternal.
If I'm an unbeliever till my dying day and am punished (however you believe that
punishment to be, whether its
eternal hel.lfire or just barred access into heaven) I can't exactly go back and redo my life believing
in god because I know the consequence.
@Topher, «And I'm sure a murderer will get a more - severe
punishment than someone who only thinks it,...»
In the Biblical view aren't both
punishments the same, i.e.
eternal torture?
Not saying i don't believe
in future
punishment, i» am just not sure if i believe
in eternal damnation anymore, i» am open to other possibilities (including possible salvation after death).
Dear Jeremy I want to know that we all know that god is very loving and forgiving he will forgive every sin except one and that is blasphemy against the holy spirit and god can even forgive murder then why not such a sin that can be forgiven with
in half an hour by an average human then why the
punishment is really much worse
eternal damnation?
As for hell and
eternal punishment, I do believe
in some sort of
eternal separation from God, but I do not believe it has anything to do with torment of suffering.
Is it possible and after reading about it i kept on thinking «i will sell to my soul for 20 carats get out shut up i will never ever sell my soul to you oh god please help me and this is continuing for a few days i am afraid that i have sold my sold to the devil have i please help and still i think god's way of allowing others to hate him us much worse even you know and can easily think think about much better
punishments like rebirth after being punished for all the sins
in life and i am feeling put on the sin of those who committed the unforgiviable sin (the early 0th century priests) imagine them burning
in hell fire till now for 2000 years hopelessly screaming to god for help i can't belive the mercy of god are they forgiven even though commiting this sin keans going to hell for entinity thank you and congralutions i think the 7 year tribulation periodvis over
in 18th century the great commect shooting and
in 19th century the sun became dark for a day and moon was not visible on the earth but now satun has the domination over me those who don't belive
in jesus crist i used to belive
in him but now after knowing a lot
in science it is getting harharder to belive
in him even though i know that he exsists and i only belived
in him not that he died for me
in the cross and also not for
eternal life and i still sin as much as i used to before but only a little reduced and i didn't accept satan as my master but what can i do because those who knowingly sin a lot and don't belive
in jesus christ has to accept satan as their master because he only teaches us that even though he is evil he gives us complete freedom but thr followers of jesus and god only have freedom because they can sin only with
in a limit and no more but recive their reward after their life
in heaven but the followers of satun have to go to hell butbi don't want to go to hell and be ruled by the cruel tryant but still why didn't god destroy satun long way before and i think it was also Adam and eve's fault also they could have blamed satan and could have also get their
punishment reduced but they didn't and today we are seeing the result
The crux of the problem is this: Christians (mostly) think that
eternal torture is a fitting
punishment for the thought crime of failing to believe
in their God.
Such conflicts provoke renewed inquiry into the Koran's puzzling and apparently contradictory attitudes toward Christians and Jews, the «People of the Book»: Muslims are told
in the same surah («The Table»), virtually
in the same breath, that Christians and Jews will attain salvation by following their own religion, but that if they deviate from true Koranic doctrine they are subject to earthly
punishment and
eternal damnation.
In this new world, with Satan conquered, the righteous would be taken to dwell with the King in a realm of glory, and the wicked would be consigned to eternal punishmen
In this new world, with Satan conquered, the righteous would be taken to dwell with the King
in a realm of glory, and the wicked would be consigned to eternal punishmen
in a realm of glory, and the wicked would be consigned to
eternal punishment.
The story begins with the great assize «when the Son of man comes
in his glory,» and it ends with the decisive verdict of assignment either to
eternal punishment or to
eternal life.
It was natural, however, that
in the course of time the description of the judgment should be followed by references to
eternal bliss, or
eternal punishment.
This enormously transforms his perspective upon the present life, less through hope of future reward or fear of
punishment than through a sense of the enhanced worthfulness of the present as preparatory to
eternal life
in the presence of God.
When aion is used
in Matthew 25, it is to describe the
eternal punishment of the «goats» separated from the «sheep.»
Jude 7: «just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they
in the same way as these indulged
in gross immorality and went after [a] strange flesh, are exhibited as an [b] example
in undergoing the
punishment of
ETERNAL fire.»