Moreover, it is not clear that the relationship that happens to exist in CMIP5 models between present day biases and future warming is a stable one,
even in global climate models.
Not exact matches
I confess that I have become somewhat blasé about the range of exciting — I think revolutionary is probably more accurate — technologies that we are rolling out today: our work
in genomics and its translation into varieties that are reaching poor farmers today; our innovative integration of long — term and multilocation trials with crop
models and modern IT and communications technology to reach farmers
in ways we never
even imagined five years ago; our vision to create a C4 rice and see to it that Golden Rice reaches poor and hungry children; maintaining productivity gains
in the face of dynamic pests and pathogens; understanding the nature of the rice grain and what makes for good quality; our many efforts to change the way rice is grown to meet the challenges of changing rural economies, changing societies, and a changing
climate; and, our extraordinary array of partnerships that has placed us at the forefront of the CGIAR change process through the
Global Rice Science Partnership.
Over the past 34 years, rainfall
in Uganda has decreased by about 12 percent
even though many of the
global climate models predict an increase
in rainfall for the area, according to an international team of researchers.
The ocean's thermal inertia, which delays some
global warming for decades and
even centuries, is accounted for
in global climate models and its effect is confirmed via measurements of Earth's energy balance (see next section).
In order to understand the potential importance of the effect, let's look at what it could do to our understanding of climate: 1) It will have zero effect on the global climate models, because a) the constraints on these models are derived from other sources b) the effect is known and there are methods for dealing the errors they introduce c) the effect they introduce is local, not global, so they can not be responsible for the signal / trend we see, but would at most introduce noise into that signal 2) It will not alter the conclusion that the climate is changing or even the degree to which it is changing because of c) above and because that conclusion is supported by multiple additional lines of evidence, all of which are consistent with the trends shown in the land station
In order to understand the potential importance of the effect, let's look at what it could do to our understanding of
climate: 1) It will have zero effect on the
global climate models, because a) the constraints on these
models are derived from other sources b) the effect is known and there are methods for dealing the errors they introduce c) the effect they introduce is local, not
global, so they can not be responsible for the signal / trend we see, but would at most introduce noise into that signal 2) It will not alter the conclusion that the
climate is changing or
even the degree to which it is changing because of c) above and because that conclusion is supported by multiple additional lines of evidence, all of which are consistent with the trends shown
in the land station
in the land stations.
Although the Met Office Hadley Center
model projects extreme drying and warming
in the Amazon due to ongoing
climate change, and there may
even be a commitment to long - term decline of part of the Amazon forest
even at just 2 degrees
global warming above pre-industrial, other
climate models show less of a drying or
even none at all.
Mike's work, like that of previous award winners, is diverse, and includes pioneering and highly cited work
in time series analysis (an elegant use of Thomson's multitaper spectral analysis approach to detect spatiotemporal oscillations
in the
climate record and methods for smoothing temporal data), decadal climate variability (the term «Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation» or «AMO» was coined by Mike in an interview with Science's Richard Kerr about a paper he had published with Tom Delworth of GFDL showing evidence in both climate model simulations and observational data for a 50 - 70 year oscillation in the climate system; significantly Mike also published work with Kerry Emanuel in 2006 showing that the AMO concept has been overstated as regards its role in 20th century tropical Atlantic SST changes, a finding recently reaffirmed by a study published in Nature), in showing how changes in radiative forcing from volcanoes can affect ENSO, in examining the role of solar variations in explaining the pattern of the Medieval Climate Anomaly and Little Ice Age, the relationship between the climate changes of past centuries and phenomena such as Atlantic tropical cyclones and global sea level, and even a bit of work in atmospheric chemistry (an analysis of beryllium - 7 measure
climate record and methods for smoothing temporal data), decadal
climate variability (the term «Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation» or «AMO» was coined by Mike in an interview with Science's Richard Kerr about a paper he had published with Tom Delworth of GFDL showing evidence in both climate model simulations and observational data for a 50 - 70 year oscillation in the climate system; significantly Mike also published work with Kerry Emanuel in 2006 showing that the AMO concept has been overstated as regards its role in 20th century tropical Atlantic SST changes, a finding recently reaffirmed by a study published in Nature), in showing how changes in radiative forcing from volcanoes can affect ENSO, in examining the role of solar variations in explaining the pattern of the Medieval Climate Anomaly and Little Ice Age, the relationship between the climate changes of past centuries and phenomena such as Atlantic tropical cyclones and global sea level, and even a bit of work in atmospheric chemistry (an analysis of beryllium - 7 measure
climate variability (the term «Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation» or «AMO» was coined by Mike
in an interview with Science's Richard Kerr about a paper he had published with Tom Delworth of GFDL showing evidence
in both
climate model simulations and observational data for a 50 - 70 year oscillation in the climate system; significantly Mike also published work with Kerry Emanuel in 2006 showing that the AMO concept has been overstated as regards its role in 20th century tropical Atlantic SST changes, a finding recently reaffirmed by a study published in Nature), in showing how changes in radiative forcing from volcanoes can affect ENSO, in examining the role of solar variations in explaining the pattern of the Medieval Climate Anomaly and Little Ice Age, the relationship between the climate changes of past centuries and phenomena such as Atlantic tropical cyclones and global sea level, and even a bit of work in atmospheric chemistry (an analysis of beryllium - 7 measure
climate model simulations and observational data for a 50 - 70 year oscillation
in the
climate system; significantly Mike also published work with Kerry Emanuel in 2006 showing that the AMO concept has been overstated as regards its role in 20th century tropical Atlantic SST changes, a finding recently reaffirmed by a study published in Nature), in showing how changes in radiative forcing from volcanoes can affect ENSO, in examining the role of solar variations in explaining the pattern of the Medieval Climate Anomaly and Little Ice Age, the relationship between the climate changes of past centuries and phenomena such as Atlantic tropical cyclones and global sea level, and even a bit of work in atmospheric chemistry (an analysis of beryllium - 7 measure
climate system; significantly Mike also published work with Kerry Emanuel
in 2006 showing that the AMO concept has been overstated as regards its role
in 20th century tropical Atlantic SST changes, a finding recently reaffirmed by a study published
in Nature),
in showing how changes
in radiative forcing from volcanoes can affect ENSO,
in examining the role of solar variations
in explaining the pattern of the Medieval
Climate Anomaly and Little Ice Age, the relationship between the climate changes of past centuries and phenomena such as Atlantic tropical cyclones and global sea level, and even a bit of work in atmospheric chemistry (an analysis of beryllium - 7 measure
Climate Anomaly and Little Ice Age, the relationship between the
climate changes of past centuries and phenomena such as Atlantic tropical cyclones and global sea level, and even a bit of work in atmospheric chemistry (an analysis of beryllium - 7 measure
climate changes of past centuries and phenomena such as Atlantic tropical cyclones and
global sea level, and
even a bit of work
in atmospheric chemistry (an analysis of beryllium - 7 measurements).
Even if the study were right... (which it is not) mainstream scientists use * three * methods to predict a
global warming trend... not just
climate computer
models (which stand up extremely well for general projections by the way) under world - wide scrutiny... and have for all intents and purposes already correctly predicted the future -(Hansen 1988
in front of Congress and Pinatubo).
Furthermore, ocean acidification is happening
even more quickly
in the Arctic, as shown
in Stenacher et al. (2009, April), «Imminent ocean acidification
in the Arctic projected with the NCAR
global coupled carbon cycle -
climate model,» http://www.biogeosciences.net/6/515/2009/bg-6-515-2009.pdf (open access):
Even putting aside the OHC data and fingerprinting, there is absolutely no evidence
in model simulations (or
in prevailing reconstructions of the Holocene), that an unforced
climate would exhibit half - century timescale
global temperature swings of order ~ 1 C. I don't see a good theoretical reason why this should be the case, but since Judith lives on «planet observations» it should be a pause for thought.
This result would be strongly dependent on the exact dynamic response of the Greenland ice sheet to surface meltwater, which is
modeled poorly
in todays
global models.Yes human influence on the
climate is real and we might
even now be able to document changes
in the behavior of weather phenomena related to disasters (e.g., Emanuel 2005), but we certainly haven't yet seen it
in the impact record (i.e., economic losses) of extreme events.
Global temperature has
in recent years increased more slowly than before, but this is within the normal natural variability that always exists, and also within the range of predictions by
climate models —
even despite some cool forcing factors such as the deep solar minimum not included
in the
models.
Yadvinder Malhi, an ecologist at Oxford specializing
in the Amazon, said that nearly all
climate models simulating the impacts of
global warming show the area staying wet
even as other parts of the vast basin get drier.
Updated, 3:10 p.m. Using
climate models and observations, a fascinating study in this week's issue of Nature Climate Change points to a marked recent warming of the Atlantic Ocean as a powerful shaper of a host of notable changes in climate and ocean patterns in the last couple of decades — including Pacific wind, sea level and ocean patterns, the decade - plus hiatus in global warming and even California's deepening d
climate models and observations, a fascinating study
in this week's issue of Nature
Climate Change points to a marked recent warming of the Atlantic Ocean as a powerful shaper of a host of notable changes in climate and ocean patterns in the last couple of decades — including Pacific wind, sea level and ocean patterns, the decade - plus hiatus in global warming and even California's deepening d
Climate Change points to a marked recent warming of the Atlantic Ocean as a powerful shaper of a host of notable changes
in climate and ocean patterns in the last couple of decades — including Pacific wind, sea level and ocean patterns, the decade - plus hiatus in global warming and even California's deepening d
climate and ocean patterns
in the last couple of decades — including Pacific wind, sea level and ocean patterns, the decade - plus hiatus
in global warming and
even California's deepening drought.
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In fact, using the Model for the Assessment of Greenhouse Gas Induced Climate Change developed by researchers at the National Center for Atmospheric Research, even if all carbon dioxide emissions in the United States were effectively eliminated, there would be less than two - tenths of a degree Celsius reduction in global temperature
In fact, using the
Model for the Assessment of Greenhouse Gas Induced
Climate Change developed by researchers at the National Center for Atmospheric Research,
even if all carbon dioxide emissions
in the United States were effectively eliminated, there would be less than two - tenths of a degree Celsius reduction in global temperature
in the United States were effectively eliminated, there would be less than two - tenths of a degree Celsius reduction
in global temperature
in global temperatures.
In 50 years,
even if the warmest
global climate models were correct (
even the cooler ones look too warm right now) what will be the most important thing to the 9 billion people on this planet?.
Type 2 results,
even from
global models used
in a prediction mode, still retain real world information
in the atmosphere (such as from long wave jet stream patterns), as well as sea surface temperatures, deep soil moisture, and other
climate variables that have long term persistence.
Yet according to official
climate models,
even if the U.S. enacted an immediate and total ban on all human emissions of greenhouse gases, the difference
in global temperature by the year 2050 would be a mere five one - hundredths of a degree Celsius.
Firstly,
even with man - made
global warming taken into account, because of the short - term noise due to the internal variability
in the
climate system,
climate models predict that there will be decades where natural cycles dampen the man - made warming trend.
It's a shame that
Global Climate Modelling has been caught up
in the
Global Warming via CO2 thing because the
model described is of great interest and value just on its own
even without the millstone of CO2 having to be carried along with it.
The ocean's thermal inertia, which delays some
global warming for decades and
even centuries, is accounted for
in global climate models and its effect is confirmed via measurements of Earth's energy balance (see next section).
«
Climate science» as it is used by warmists implies adherence to a set of beliefs: (1) Increasing greenhouse gas concentrations will warm the Earth's surface and atmosphere; (2) Human production of CO2 is producing significant increases in CO2 concentration; (3) The rate of rise of temperature in the 20th and 21st centuries is unprecedented compared to the rates of change of temperature in the previous two millennia and this can only be due to rising greenhouse gas concentrations; (4) The climate of the 19th century was ideal and may be taken as a standard to compare against any current climate; (5) global climate models, while still not perfect, are good enough to indicate that continued use of fossil fuels at projected rates in the 21st century will cause the CO2 concentration to rise to a high level by 2100 (possibly 700 to 900 ppm); (6) The global average temperature under this condition will rise more than 3 °C from the late 19th century ideal; (7) The negative impact on humanity of such a rise will be enormous; (8) The only alternative to such a disaster is to immediately and sharply reduce CO2 emissions (reducing emissions in 2050 by 80 % compared to today's rate) and continue further reductions after 2050; (9) Even with such draconian CO2 reductions, the CO2 concentration is likely to reach at least 450 to 500 ppm by 2100 resulting in significant damage to humanity; (10) Such reductions in CO2 emissions are technically feasible and economically affordable while providing adequate energy to a growing world population that is increasingly industria
Climate science» as it is used by warmists implies adherence to a set of beliefs: (1) Increasing greenhouse gas concentrations will warm the Earth's surface and atmosphere; (2) Human production of CO2 is producing significant increases
in CO2 concentration; (3) The rate of rise of temperature
in the 20th and 21st centuries is unprecedented compared to the rates of change of temperature
in the previous two millennia and this can only be due to rising greenhouse gas concentrations; (4) The
climate of the 19th century was ideal and may be taken as a standard to compare against any current climate; (5) global climate models, while still not perfect, are good enough to indicate that continued use of fossil fuels at projected rates in the 21st century will cause the CO2 concentration to rise to a high level by 2100 (possibly 700 to 900 ppm); (6) The global average temperature under this condition will rise more than 3 °C from the late 19th century ideal; (7) The negative impact on humanity of such a rise will be enormous; (8) The only alternative to such a disaster is to immediately and sharply reduce CO2 emissions (reducing emissions in 2050 by 80 % compared to today's rate) and continue further reductions after 2050; (9) Even with such draconian CO2 reductions, the CO2 concentration is likely to reach at least 450 to 500 ppm by 2100 resulting in significant damage to humanity; (10) Such reductions in CO2 emissions are technically feasible and economically affordable while providing adequate energy to a growing world population that is increasingly industria
climate of the 19th century was ideal and may be taken as a standard to compare against any current
climate; (5) global climate models, while still not perfect, are good enough to indicate that continued use of fossil fuels at projected rates in the 21st century will cause the CO2 concentration to rise to a high level by 2100 (possibly 700 to 900 ppm); (6) The global average temperature under this condition will rise more than 3 °C from the late 19th century ideal; (7) The negative impact on humanity of such a rise will be enormous; (8) The only alternative to such a disaster is to immediately and sharply reduce CO2 emissions (reducing emissions in 2050 by 80 % compared to today's rate) and continue further reductions after 2050; (9) Even with such draconian CO2 reductions, the CO2 concentration is likely to reach at least 450 to 500 ppm by 2100 resulting in significant damage to humanity; (10) Such reductions in CO2 emissions are technically feasible and economically affordable while providing adequate energy to a growing world population that is increasingly industria
climate; (5)
global climate models, while still not perfect, are good enough to indicate that continued use of fossil fuels at projected rates in the 21st century will cause the CO2 concentration to rise to a high level by 2100 (possibly 700 to 900 ppm); (6) The global average temperature under this condition will rise more than 3 °C from the late 19th century ideal; (7) The negative impact on humanity of such a rise will be enormous; (8) The only alternative to such a disaster is to immediately and sharply reduce CO2 emissions (reducing emissions in 2050 by 80 % compared to today's rate) and continue further reductions after 2050; (9) Even with such draconian CO2 reductions, the CO2 concentration is likely to reach at least 450 to 500 ppm by 2100 resulting in significant damage to humanity; (10) Such reductions in CO2 emissions are technically feasible and economically affordable while providing adequate energy to a growing world population that is increasingly industria
climate models, while still not perfect, are good enough to indicate that continued use of fossil fuels at projected rates
in the 21st century will cause the CO2 concentration to rise to a high level by 2100 (possibly 700 to 900 ppm); (6) The
global average temperature under this condition will rise more than 3 °C from the late 19th century ideal; (7) The negative impact on humanity of such a rise will be enormous; (8) The only alternative to such a disaster is to immediately and sharply reduce CO2 emissions (reducing emissions
in 2050 by 80 % compared to today's rate) and continue further reductions after 2050; (9)
Even with such draconian CO2 reductions, the CO2 concentration is likely to reach at least 450 to 500 ppm by 2100 resulting
in significant damage to humanity; (10) Such reductions
in CO2 emissions are technically feasible and economically affordable while providing adequate energy to a growing world population that is increasingly industrializing.
However, the mighty creature overhead, along with all its cousins, is too small to show up
in even the biggest and grandest
global climate models.
It should be clear that this great and constant roar of atmospheric air conditioning is an important part of the
global energy budget should figure significantly into any
model of the
global climate however the mighty creature overhead, along with all his cousins, is too small to show up
in even the biggest and grandest
global climate models.»
This work looked at
climate model data to confirm that sea - surface temperature patterns can be used as an indicator of Amoc's strength and revealing that it has been weakening
even more rapidly since 1950
in response to recent
global warming.
Translating the above to
climate science, if you tell me that
in 100 years earth inhabited by your children is going to hell
in a handbasket, because our most complicated
models built with all those horrendously complicated equestions you can find
in math, show that the
global temperatures will be 10 deg higher and icecaps will melt, sea will invade land, plant / animal ecosystem will get whacked out of order causing food supply to be badly disrupted, then I, without much
climate science expertise, can easily ask you the following questions and scrutinize the results: a) where can I see that your
model's futuristic predictions about
global temp, icecaps, eco system changes
in the past have come true,
even for much shorter periods of time, like say 20 years, before I take this for granted and make radical changes
in my life?
I have too much respect for Allison to get into a spitting match with him over something that there is simply too little data to positively determine, too much corruption and money involved for those who support that mankind can affect and control
global weather to any significant amount all while ignoring so many other factors such as solar winds, Sun spot activity and
even the amount of water vapor
in the atmosphere, which is never a part of any of the seriously flawed
climate models.
Back
in the olden days,
in the days when they had the sort of «stable»
climate we are all now expected to aspire to, long before anyone had thunk up
global warming or anything, they used to amuse themselves of an
evening by singing about how natural variability is always going to happen whether the
models be right or wrong.
This forecast also suggests
global temperatures over the next five years are likely to be well within, or
even in the upper half, of the range of warming expected by the CMIP5
models, as used by the Intergovernmental Panel on
Climate Change.
Despite the widely recognized prominence of water vapour and clouds
in models of greenhouse forcing, a new paper published
in Climate Dynamics fails to
even identify either factor as a contributor to
global temperature changes during the 1984 - 2005 period.
Study: Long - term warming equivalent to 10 °C per century could be sufficient to trigger compost - bomb instability
in drying organic soils Wiley: First generation
climate — carbon cycle
models suggest that
climate change will suppress carbon accumulation
in soils, and could
even lead to a net loss of
global soil carbon over the next century.
After all,
even the EPA's own lawyers, non-scientist professional bureaucratic infighters that they are, seem to recognize that if Mother Nature could,
in pre-industrial times, raise the earth's
global mean temperature to levels approaching today's levels — but without the benefit of having that additional 100 ppm of atmospheric CO2 with which to force the increase — then key parts of current AGW theory can be called into question,
even the
climate prediction
models.
Wiley: First generation
climate — carbon cycle
models suggest that
climate change will suppress carbon accumulation
in soils, and could
even lead to a net loss of
global soil carbon over the next century.
Even on the
global scale, the annual,
global - averaged radiative forcing predicted by the
models is significantly greater than has been observed based on the accumulation of Joules
in the
climate system.
Even just acknowledging more openly the incredible magnitude of the deep structural uncertainties that are involved
in climate - change analysis — and explaining better to policymakers that the artificial crispness conveyed by conventional IAM - based CBAs [Integrated Assessment
Model — Cost Benefit Analyses] here is especially and unusually misleading compared with more ordinary non-
climate-change CBA situations — might go a long way toward elevating the level of public discourse concerning what to do about
global warming.
Recent multi
model estimates based on different CMIP3
climate scenarios and different dynamic
global vegetation
models predict a moderate risk of tropical forest reduction
in South America and
even lower risk for African and Asian tropical forests (see also Section 12.5.5.6)(Gumpenberger et al., 2010; Huntingford et al., 2013).»
But don't you think there are some underlying patterns
in the
global climate that can be understood
even with greatly simplified
models?
Edward A. Barkley (160)-- Here is a decadal
climate model for you: http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2010/03/unforced-variations-3/comment-page-12/#comment-168530
in which I
even venture a prediction of the
global average temperature for the 2010s.
RealClimate is wonderful, and an excellent source of reliable information.As I've said before, methane is an extremely dangerous component to
global warming.Comment # 20 is correct.There is a sharp melting point to frozen methane.A huge increase
in the release of methane could happen within the next 50 years.At what point
in the Earth's temperature rise and the rise of co2 would a huge methane melt occur?No one has answered that definitive issue.If I ask you all at what point would huge amounts of extra methane start melting, i.e at what temperature rise of the ocean near the Artic methane ice deposits would the methane melt, or at what point
in the rise of co2 concentrations
in the atmosphere would the methane melt, I believe that no one could currently tell me the actual answer as to where the sharp melting point exists.Of course, once that tipping point has been reached, and billions of tons of methane outgass from what had been locked stores of methane, locked away for an eternity, it is exactly the same as the burning of stored fossil fuels which have been stored for an eternity as well.And
even though methane does not have as long a life as co2, while it is around
in the air it can cause other tipping points, i.e. permafrost melting, to arrive much sooner.I will reiterate what I've said before on this and other sites.Methane is a hugely underreported, underestimated risk.How about RealClimate attempts to
model exactly what would happen to other tipping points, such as the melting permafrost, if indeed a huge increase
in the melting of the methal hydrate ice WERE to occur within the next 50 years.My amateur guess is that the huge, albeit temporary, increase
in methane over
even three or four decades might push other relevent tipping points to arrive much, much, sooner than they normally would, thereby vastly incresing negative feedback mechanisms.We KNOW that quick, huge, changes occured
in the Earth's
climate in the past.See other relevent posts
in the past from Realclimate.
Climate often does not change slowly, but undergoes huge, quick, changes periodically, due to negative feedbacks accumulating, and tipping the
climate to a quick change.Why should the danger from huge potential methane releases be vievwed with any less trepidation?
The
models heavily relied upon by the Intergovernmental Panel on
Climate Change (IPCC) had not projected this multidecadal stasis
in «
global warming»; nor (until trained ex post facto) the fall
in TS from 1940 - 1975; nor 50 years» cooling
in Antarctica (Doran et al., 2002) and the Arctic (Soon, 2005); nor the absence of ocean warming since 2003 (Lyman et al., 2006; Gouretski & Koltermann, 2007); nor the onset, duration, or intensity of the Madden - Julian intraseasonal oscillation, the Quasi-Biennial Oscillation
in the tropical stratosphere, El Nino / La Nina oscillations, the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation, or the Pacific Decadal Oscillation that has recently transited from its warming to its cooling phase (oceanic oscillations which, on their own, may account for all of the observed warmings and coolings over the past half - century: Tsoniset al., 2007); nor the magnitude nor duration of multi-century events such as the Mediaeval Warm Period or the Little Ice Age; nor the cessation since 2000 of the previously - observed growth
in atmospheric methane concentration (IPCC, 2007); nor the active 2004 hurricane season; nor the inactive subsequent seasons; nor the UK flooding of 2007 (the Met Office had forecast a summer of prolonged droughts only six weeks previously); nor the solar Grand Maximum of the past 70 years, during which the Sun was more active, for longer, than at almost any similar period
in the past 11,400 years (Hathaway, 2004; Solankiet al., 2005); nor the consequent surface «
global warming» on Mars, Jupiter, Neptune's largest moon, and
even distant Pluto; nor the eerily - continuing 2006 solar minimum; nor the consequent, precipitate decline of ~ 0.8 °C
in TS from January 2007 to May 2008 that has canceled out almost all of the observed warming of the 20th century.
That, the UN official claimed, is «very detrimental» to the fight against alleged
global warming, which
even alarmists have now been forced to admit has been on «pause» for 17 years
in defiance of all 73 UN «
climate»
models.
Instead of publicly expressing their views, a group of parliamentarians said skeptics should parrot the imploding official narrative: The notion that
global warming, which
even leading alarmists admit has been on «pause» for 17 years
in defiance of every UN
climate model, is caused by human activities and requires planetary carbon taxes and more government control.