Why do so many folks keep trying to
explain atmospheric temperatures with only infrared radiation?
Not exact matches
To
explain this apparent paradox, the researchers called upon a theory for how the global carbon cycle,
atmospheric carbon dioxide and Earth's
temperature are linked on geologic timescales.
The ongoing disappearance of sea ice in the Arctic from elevated
temperatures is a factor to changes in
atmospheric pressure that control jet streams of air,
explained James Overland, an oceanographer of the National Oceanic and
Atmospheric Administration, or NOAA.
Turning up the heat seems to increase the rate at which the plants produce methane, Keppler says, which could
explain why
atmospheric levels of methane were high hundreds of thousands of years ago when global
temperatures were balmy.
«For various periods over the last 60 years, we have been able to combine important processes:
atmospheric variability, such as the North Atlantic Oscillation, water and air
temperatures, the occurrence of fresh surface water, and the duration of convection,»
explains Dr. Marilena Oltmanns from GEOMAR, lead author of the study.
«At normal
atmospheric pressure and
temperature, where air is 21 percent O2, the material already contains oxygen and can not absorb more,» McKenzie
explains.
More data are needed to
explain those shifts, but
atmospheric temperatures likely played a role, said Claus - Dieter Hillenbrand, the study's lead author and a senior marine geologist with the British Antarctic Survey.
So apparently you're suggesting that decadal - scale precipitation patterns (more, less rainfall) and
temperature changes are better
explained by
atmospheric CO2 concentrations.
Although the primary driver of glacial — interglacial cycles lies in the seasonal and latitudinal distribution of incoming solar energy driven by changes in the geometry of the Earth's orbit around the Sun («orbital forcing»), reconstructions and simulations together show that the full magnitude of glacial — interglacial
temperature and ice volume changes can not be
explained without accounting for changes in
atmospheric CO2 content and the associated climate feedbacks.
The link between increased
atmospheric greenhouse gas and global
temperatures underlies the theory of global warming,
explained the authors.
Maue
explained the
atmospheric dynamics within a «heat dome» that amplify
temperatures well beyond the heating impact of southern sunshine.
It seems the Warmists bet the farm on a correlation between rising
atmospheric CO2 and rising
temperatures in the period 1976 to 1998, and are at a loss to
explain the lack of correlation since then.
Regressing changes in Tmax on monthly changes in these variables as well as
atmospheric CO2 shows significant positive roles for sun and rain in
explaining temperature chnage since 1958, but negative for
atmospheric CO2.
But «in order to
explain the drop in
atmospheric growth rate of CO2, we would need an average drop in global
temperatures of about 3.6 degrees Fahrenheit (2 ° C), but the
temperatures only dropped by about one degree (0.9) Fahrenheit (0.5 °C) globally.»
Radiatively warmed (whether directly or indirectly through collisions) molecules are placed higher in the
atmospheric column than can be
explained just from their individual gas constants and once at that height have an enhanced cooling effect equal to their enhanced warming effect with a zero net effect on surface
temperature.
A range of a mere 4 Watts per square metre or less in Total Solar Irradiance is sufficient to
explain changes in Earth's
atmospheric temperature for the past 400 years.
Anyway, today we try to
explain the exact opposite: how northern hemisphere ice ages can quite suddenly weaken — at least in case of the last one, which had its cold peak around 18,000 years ago, after which
atmospheric CO2 levels «suddenly» (over a millennium or so) rose by 30 per cent, and
temperatures started to climb closer * to our current Holocene values.
Pinatubo was particularly good for this, because as Soden et al 2002 showed, the GCMs of the day not only accurately modeled the
atmospheric drying after the eruption, but also demonstrated that a positive water vapor feedback was required to
explain the MSU - measured lower troposphere
temperatures.
The feedbacks, including subsurface ocean warming, help
explain paleoclimate data and point to a dominant Southern Ocean role in controlling
atmospheric CO2, which in turn exercised tight control on global
temperature and sea level.
(b) A more vigorous
atmospheric circulation in the region of the Norwegian Sea would
explain the observed facts, namely the recession of the ice - limit, the increased frequency of south - westerly winds, rather than south - easterly, in North Norway, and the consequent marked rise in winter
temperatures which has attained its greatest magnitude in the north of the Scandinavian Peninsula.
Something like albedo might
explain the 1,500 - year cycle without a two - state mechanism; the D - O flips might arise from an abrupt
atmospheric reorganization triggered by accumulating regional differences in sea surface
temperatures.
Are you saying that because he uses a LTE model with
atmospheric layers to
explain carbon dioxide IR radiation (and re-radiation), that he is implying that one should find non-smooth
temperatures with increasing height in such layers?
NOAA does analyze the
atmospheric temperature data as obtained by NASA satellites, but has taken no action to
explain the deficiencies of the surface record.
That said, while the general explanation I've heard for the historical relationship between
atmospheric CO2 and global mean
temperature is from CO2 solubility, that probably is too slow a mechanism to
explain the relatively rapid change in CO2 levels from 1850 to 1975.
That lack of immediate concern may in part stem from a lack of understanding that today's pollution will heat the planet for centuries to come, as
explained in this Denial101x lecture: So far humans have caused about 1 °C warming of global surface
temperatures, but if we were to freeze the level of
atmospheric carbon dioxide at today's levels, the planet would continue warming.
86) There are no experimentally verified processes
explaining how CO2 concentrations can fall in a few centuries without falling
temperatures — in fact it is changing
temperatures which cause changes in CO2 concentrations, which is consistent with experiments that show CO2 is the
atmospheric gas most readily absorbed by water.
Importantly, the region of
temperature trends
explained by trends in sea ice and the
atmospheric circulation is the region of trends that are statistically significant.
In both GOGA and TOGA simulations, the surface
temperature over sea ice can respond to both prescribed sea ice and simulated
atmospheric circulation changes, which
explains differences with observations
They could
explain the on / off behaviour of global climate, that and the time taken by the oceans to respond to
atmospheric temperature.
However, I think your last comment concluding that the rise in
atmospheric CO2 not
explained by increased ocean
temperatures, must therefore be anthropogenic, is unjustified, as it doesn't consider the effect of increased
temperature on the land based sources and sinks.
Emanuel
explains, the observed
atmospheric temperature does not keep pace with SST which leads to a decrease in vertical stability and an increase in potential intensity.
This comment has already gotten too long, but I'd like to point out that based on what we know so far, it looks very much as if Salby is making the same mistake that McLean made (in attributing the
temperature rise to ENSO) and, even more similarly, that Mr Lon Hocker made in a post at WUWT in which he made virtually the identical argument to this one (
temperature changes
explain the
atmospheric CO2 trend).
Other effects like
temperature - dependent CO2 solubility in ocean water, carbon stored in the land biosphere, weathering rates, and ocean nutrient inventories may help
explain the rest of glacial − interglacial changes in
atmospheric pCO2 (26, 27).
Could this help
explain the sudden slowing of
atmospheric temperature?
A problem that the AGW alarmists could never solve or
explain is how CO2 could be causing global warming when the historical record shows that rises in
atmospheric CO2 follow
temperature rises, not the other way around.
They find that the different moisture availability over land and ocean leads to different
atmospheric temperature lapse rates (latent heat release), which in combination with a well - mixed free (above boundary layer) atmosphere can
explain the land — sea contrast.
In order to
explain the deviation between the surface
temperature record and his calculated
atmospheric CO2 level, Salby blames the surface
temperature record as being unreliable.
Rather, there is strong geo - historical evidence to suggest CO2 level has very strong correlation with surface and
atmospheric temperatures, as well as credible theories
explain causality from concentration to
temperature.
The thunderstorm thermostat hypothesis is far from settled science, but it is clearly a much better hypothesis (in terms of
explaining the available data) than the IPCC's assumption that global
temperatures are determined primarily by changes in
atmospheric CO2 levels.
This phenomenon
explains why global
temperature today is not increasing despite the fact that the amount of
atmospheric carbon dioxide is constantly increasing.
Are you referring to the link regarding «Venus
atmospheric pressure
explains Venus surface
temperature?»
74: Then please
explain to me how in the past
atmospheric levels of CO2 have been as high as 3000 ppm with global
temperatures the same as they are today.
Hockey Schtick January 21, 2014 at 5:32 pm «Not true, planetary surface
temperatures on Earth and other planets can be fully
explained by the adiabatic lapse rate + solar insolation alone, no IR active gases required, only equivalent
atmospheric pressure + solar insolation.»
Not true, planetary surface
temperatures on Earth and other planets can be fully
explained by the adiabatic lapse rate + solar insolation alone, no IR active gases required, only equivalent
atmospheric pressure + solar insolation.
Climate models and efforts to
explain global
temperature changes over the past century suggest that the average global
temperature will rise by between 1.5 º and 4.5 ºC if the
atmospheric COconcentration doubles.
«We are only able to state that the slowing in growth that we observed is consistent with the hypothesis that increases in
temperature will cause decreases in tree growth,»
explained Joseph Wright, a researcher at the Smithsonian Tropical Research Institute in Panama.If this trend persists, tropical forests will likely emit ever increasing amounts of carbon dioxide in the future — effectively raising
atmospheric concentrations of greenhouse gases.