This one is tough, as
faith and reason exist in a rather tricky balance.
Not exact matches
historical Jesus, lmfao... show me any historical evidence of jesus... let's start with his remains... they don't
exist - your explanation, he rose to the heavens... historical evidence - no remains, no proof of existence (not a disproof either, just not a proof)... then let's start with other historians writing about the life of Jesus around his time or shortly after, as outside neutral observers... that doesn't
exist either (not a disproof again, just not a proof)... we can go on
and on... the fact is, there is not a single proving evidence of Jesus's life in an historical context... there is no existence of Jesus in a scientific context either (virgin birth... riiiiiight)... it is just written in a book,
and stuck in your head... you have a right to believe in what you must... just don't base it on history or science... you believe because you do... it is your right... but try not to put
reason into your
faith; that's when you start sounding unreasonable, borderline crazy...
Something you fail to address is why any rational person would be motivated to invest the time
and energy it takes to develop
faith in any god if he sees no
reason to believe he
exists in the first place.
A fundamental flaw in this claim, on which I'll elaborate more in another comment, is that lacking any
reason to believe anything one could reasonably call a god
exists, what incentive do I have to invest time
and effort developing
faith in one?
However the vision of Christ
and of his work presented by Agnes
and Edward Holloway is always to remain central to the
Faith Movementindeed it is its sole identity
and reason for
existing.
But if there is no evidence he
exists,
and hence no
reason to believe he
exists, what's my incentive to invest time
and energy to develop
faith in something I have no
reason to believe
exists?»
God
exists and the proof is as plain as reason AND fai
and the proof is as plain as
reason AND fai
AND faith.
Arkoun suggested that the Pope, at Regensburg, had been «right» to affirm that today «an intimate relationship between
reason and faith does not
exist in Islamic elaboration
and expressions», but that it was unfortunate that he had not mentioned the very different situation that prevailed «before the death of the philosopher Averroes in 1198».
If we can really assure ourselves by natural
reason that God
exists then that is not an article of
faith,
and the same goes for Christ's divinity, if, as apologists claim, we have good rational grounds for thinking that he claimed to be divine, that he was neither mad nor a fraud,
and that he rose from the dead.
Whilst Fr Edward Holloway, founder of
Faith movement, argues that such is positive evidence for God, Stoeger caught the mood of the conference by simply saying it was not inconsistent with there
existing - above
and beyond science - a «theological teleology, a
reason for it all»,
and thus it was not inconsistent with the existence of God.»
They recovered the classical experience of
reason as the potential infinity of human questions, showing how this dynamic «ratio» as a desire for understanding is healed
and transformed by the paschal - metanoetic experience of
faith in the Sophia - Cod of compassion
and love.4 Aquinas, for example, understood God as «intimately present within everything that
exists since God is existence»
and that Cod's omnipotence — Aquinas wrote very little about it — regards not actualities but possibilities,
and is best manifested in forgiveness
and compassionate mercy.5
Rollins writes, «A
faith that only
exist in the light of victory
and certainty is one which really affirms the self while pretending to affirm Christ... Only a genuine
faith can embrace doubt, for such a
faith does not act because of a self - interested
reason (such as fear of hell or desire for heaven) but acts simply because it must.»
Some of the great fathers of modern science were Catholic priests — proof that
faith and reason can
exist in harmony, as they still do today.
Scientism causes an extreme dualism, where the life of
faith and the life of
reason exist simultaneously but separately.
Jesus as a person does not
exist outside the gospels
and the only
reason he
exists there is because of their authors»
faith in the Resurrection....
Too often
faith and reason have been defined in terms of external relations, so that the tension between them has been broken
and not merely resolved, But if a tension
exists between
faith and reason, then each must modify the other
and be modified in turn.
The tension that must necessarily
exist between
faith and reason is broken.
«The
faith of the Church has always insisted that between God
and us, between his eternal Creator Spirit
and our created
reason, there
exists a real analogy, in which — as the Fourth Lateran Council in 1215 stated — unlikeness remains infinitely greater than likeness, yet not to the point of abolishing analogy
and its language.
Whilst Fr Edward Holloway, founder of
Faith movement, takes such insights towards God, Stoeger caught the mood of the conference by simply saying it was not inconsistent with there
existing - above
and beyond science - a theological teleology, a «
reason for it all» which is given only by God.
«The regular study section is risk averse for a very simple, perfectly human
reason: It's just easier to see how an incremental improvement in
existing knowledge
and an experiment which is very, very obviously feasible is a better use of the money to the average study section member than something which requires any kind of leap of
faith or which is insufficiently justified, in their view.
For these two men - especially Rodriguez, they will discover an ultimate test of
faith, trying to find a
reasoning behind the message of God,
and push back against the possible reality that God might not
exist at all.
Sister Anne, who has dedicated her life to Catholic education sees this unique role as a wonderful opportunity for our students, faculty
and all of our IMS staff since she says, «The main
reason Catholic schools
exist is to pass on our
faith to the next generation
and to help all members, Catholic
and non-Catholic, recognize that they are loved unconditionally by God.»
He summed up his attitude in the 1965 statement «
Faith, Hope,
and Impossibility,» in which he describes his studio situation in terms that sound like they were taken right out of Being
and Nothingness: «You begin to feel as you go on working that unless painting proves its right to
exist by being critical
and self - judging, it has no
reason to
exist at all - or is not even possible.»
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