And it should be possible to measure zero
feedback equilibrium climate sensitivity on a small scale if not on a planetary one.
Third, our calculations are for a single fast -
feedback equilibrium climate sensitivity, 3 °C for doubled CO2, which we infer from paleoclimate data.
Not exact matches
Climate forcing in the LGM
equilibrium state, relative to the Holocene, due to the slow
feedback ice age surface properties, i.e., increased ice area, different vegetation distribution, and continental shelf exposure, was -3.5 ± 1 W / m2 (10).
Then on page 9.5 we read «There is very high confidence that the primary factor contributing to the spread in
equilibrium climate sensitivity continues to be the cloud
feedback.
Now, clouds do not make heat exchange imponderable, especially in long term trends of
climate analysis, the averages due to what we already know about dynamic
equilibrium outcomes and what we observe in the
feedbacks going back even greater then 30 years.
Equilibrium sensitivity, including slower surface albedo
feedbacks, is 6 °C for doubled CO2 for the range of
climate states between glacial conditions and ice - free Antarctica.»
Geoff any forcing is positive
feedback and there are many of those loops at work now working against
climate homeostasis and the more from
equilibrium climate becomes more additional + ve loops just join the fray.
Polar amplication is of global concern due to the potential effects of future warming on ice sheet stability and, therefore, global sea level (see Sections 5.6.1, 5.8.1 and Chapter 13) and carbon cycle
feedbacks such as those linked with permafrost melting (see Chapter 6)... The magnitude of polar amplification depends on the relative strength and duration of different
climate feedbacks, which determine the transient and
equilibrium response to external forcings.
It gets tricky now because the
equilibrium climate sensitivity requires a timescale to be defined — barring large hysteresis, it isn't so large going out many millions of years (weathering
feedback); there will be a time scale of maximum sensitivity.
Global temperature change is about half that in Antarctica, so this
equilibrium global
climate sensitivity is 1.5 C (Wm ^ -2) ^ -1, double the fast -
feedback (Charney) sensitivity.
Aslo, regarding
climate sensitivity a very key thing to remember, especially if sensitivity turns out to be on the high side, is that the «final»
equilibrium temperature (Alexi's concerns about there being such a thing aside) calculated from
climate sensitivity does not take into account carbon cycle
feedbacks OR ice sheet changes.
The forcing and
feedback (including the vertical temperature profile
feedback) will be different in complimentary ways to result in the same magnitude of shift in
equilibrium climate.
Starting from an old equilbrium, a change in radiative forcing results in a radiative imbalance, which results in energy accumulation or depletion, which causes a temperature response that approahes
equilibrium when the remaining imbalance approaches zero — thus the
equilibrium climatic response, in the global - time average (for a time period long enough to characterize the climatic state, including externally imposed cycles (day, year) and internal variability), causes an opposite change in radiative fluxes (via Planck function)(plus convective fluxes, etc, where they occur) equal in magnitude to the sum of the (externally) imposed forcing plus any «forcings» caused by non-Planck
feedbacks (in particular,
climate - dependent changes in optical properties, + etc.).)
(Within the range where water vapor
feedback is runaway, zero change in external forcing»cause s» a large change in
climate; the
equilibrium surface temperature, graphed over some measure of external forcing, takes a step at some particular value.)
One can consider net PR+CR as a response to externally - imposed RF (external forcing) plus
feedback «RF», or one can consider PR + CR —
feedback «RF» as the response to the externally imposed RF; the later is perhaps more helpful in picturing the time evolution toward
equilibrium (and illustrates why the time it takes for an imbalance, equal to: externally imposed RF —
climate dependent terms (PR + CR —
feedback «RF»), to decay is proportional to both heat capacity and
climate sensitivity (defined per unit externally imposed RF).
Depending on meridional heat transport, when freezing temperatures reach deep enough towards low - latitudes, the ice - albedo
feedback can become so effective that
climate sensitivity becomes infinite and even negative (implying unstable
equilibrium for any «ice - line» (latitude marking the edge of ice) between the equator and some other latitude).
The
feedback can become zero — or to avoid confusion regarding what is and is not a
feedback — the
equilibrium climate sensitivity can become infinite (or negative) in some conditions.
Once the ice reaches the equator, the
equilibrium climate is significantly colder than what would initiate melting at the equator, but if CO2 from geologic emissions build up (they would, but very slowly — geochemical processes provide a negative
feedback by changing atmospheric CO2 in response to
climate changes, but this is generally very slow, and thus can not prevent faster changes from faster external forcings) enough, it can initiate melting — what happens then is a runaway in the opposite direction (until the ice is completely gone — the extreme warmth and CO2 amount at that point, combined with left - over glacial debris available for chemical weathering, will draw CO2 out of the atmosphere, possibly allowing some ice to return).
part of the utility is that Charney sensitivity, using only relatively rapid
feedbacks, describes the
climate response to an externally imposed forcing change on a particular timescale related to the heat capacity of the system (if the
feedbacks were sufficiniently rapid and the heat capacity independent of time scale (it's not largely because of oceanic circulation), an imbalance would exponentially decay on the time scale of heat capacity * Charney
equilibrium climate sensitivity.
But 3,2 °C is the best estimate for
equilibrium climate sensitivity (that is when the runs of models consider all the
feedbacks).
These additional
feedbacks are not still accounted by GCM models, at least those used in IPCC 2007 for
equilibrium climate sensitivity.
To translate this into 2xCO2 temperature impact (
equilibrium climate sensitivity) means that this would be around 0.6 deg C including all
feedbacks, compared to the Myhre et al. estimate before
feedbacks of around 1.0 degC and the IPCC mid-range estimate including all
feedbacks of 3.2 degC.
It is possible that effective
climate sensitivity increases over time (ignoring, as for
equilibrium sensitivity, ice sheet and other slow
feedbacks), but there is currently no model - independent reason to think that it does so.
The
climate system invariably tends to return toward
equilibrium via
feedbacks.
Second, for millennia, our
climate has been relatively close to
equilibrium, as discerned from the tendency of fluctuations to return to a steadier baseline, from energy balance studies, and from observational data on
feedbacks.
[¶]... Basing our assessment on a combination of several independent lines of evidence, as summarised in Box 10.2 Figures 1 and 2, including observed
climate change and the strength of known
feedbacks simulated in GCMs, we conclude that the global mean
equilibrium warming for doubling CO2, or «
equilibrium climate sensitivity», is likely to lie in the range 2 °C to 4.5 °C, with a most likely value of about 3 °C.
In contrast to
climate models, which are biogeophysically - based systems models that incorporate time - delayed feedbacks and non-linear dynamics, the economic and demographic models that underpin the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) are price - based equilibrium
climate models, which are biogeophysically - based systems models that incorporate time - delayed
feedbacks and non-linear dynamics, the economic and demographic models that underpin the Intergovernmental Panel on
Climate Change (IPCC) are price - based equilibrium
Climate Change (IPCC) are price - based
equilibrium models.
One empirical analysis of the type of F+G 06 does not tell that the
climate feedback parameter Y is 2.3 ± 1.4 W m ^ -2 K ^ -1 with 95 % certaintyor that the
equilibrium climate sensitivity is in the corresponding range 1.0 — 4.1 K. Those limits are obtained only, when the additional assumption of uniform prior in Y is made.
But seriously, I look at your use of terms like «forcing», and «
feedback», and «
equilibrium climate sensitivity», and «CO2 control knob», and I feel sorta like a modern redox chemist watching a bunch of biologists trying to study the cell by measuring its «phlogiston» characteristics.
The
Equilibrium Climate Sensitivity (ECS) The Economist refers to is how much Earth temperatures are expected to rise when one includes fast
feedbacks such as atmospheric water vapor increase and the initial greenhouse gas forcing provided by CO2.
Radiative Transfer Physics does not depend entirely on the simple absorbtivity of CO2, which by the way is effectively permanent in air when added by burning fossil fuels, compared to water which saturates and precipitates out depending on
climate conditions, such as warming due the GHE, as a marginal shift in the dynamic
equilibrium through
feedbacks.
«The Earth's
climate system is highly nonlinear: inputs and outputs are not proportional, change is often episodic and abrupt, rather than slow and gradual, and multiple
equilibria are the norm... there is a relatively poor understanding of the different types of nonlinearities, how they manifest under various conditions, and whether they reflect a
climate system driven by astronomical forcings, by internal
feedbacks, or by a combination of both... [We] suggest a robust alternative to prediction that is based on using integrated assessments within the framework of vulnerability studies... It is imperative that the Earth's
climate system research community embraces this nonlinear paradigm if we are to move forward in the assessment of the human influence on
climate.»
I agree that reduction in snow or ice cover resulting from warming constitutes a likely slow positive
feedback, but its magnitude may be quite small, at least for the modest changes in surface temperature that can be expected to arise if sensitivity is in fact fairly low, so the Forster / Gregory 06 results may nevertheless be a close approximation to a measurement of
equilibrium climate sensitivity.
Imposing a flat prior on an observable property, such as the
climate feedback or transient
climate response, is equivalent to imposing a highly skewed prior on the
equilibrium climate sensitivity, and therefore results in narrower posterior likelihood ranges on the
climate sensitivity that exclude very high sensitivities.
Therefore, estimating
equilibrium climate sensitivity based on measurements of a
climate that's out of
equilibrium requires making some significant assumptions, for example that
feedbacks will remain constant over time.
- we lack a timescale short enough to consider the forcing as fixed (volcano, CO2 emissions, TSI variations) but long enough to get meaningful
climate average (even if such average makes sense, that
climate is only weakly chaotic) and certainly too short to reach
equilibrium T. Equilibrium climate sensitivity is thus a purely theoretical construct not much more related to reality than the no - feedback sen
equilibrium T.
Equilibrium climate sensitivity is thus a purely theoretical construct not much more related to reality than the no - feedback sen
Equilibrium climate sensitivity is thus a purely theoretical construct not much more related to reality than the no -
feedback sensitivity...
Figure 1: Schematic diagram of the
equilibrium fast -
feedback climate sensitivity and Earth system sensitivity that includes surface albedo slow
feedbacks.
Recently there have been some studies and comments by a few
climate scientists that based on the slowed global surface warming over the past decade, estimates of the Earth's overall
equilibrium climate sensitivity (the total amount of global surface warming in response to the increased greenhouse effect from a doubling of atmospheric CO2, including amplifying and dampening
feedbacks) may be a bit too high.
the «fast» and «slow»
feedback climate sensitivity are distinguished by the characteristic timescales of the
feedbacks, and not by the time required for the surface temperature to reach a new
equilibrium following an imposed forcing.
The basic results of this
climate model analysis are that: (1) it is increase in atmospheric CO2 (and the other minor non-condensing greenhouse gases) that control the greenhouse warming of the
climate system; (2) water vapor and clouds are
feedback effects that magnify the strength of the greenhouse effect due to the non-condensing greenhouse gases by about a factor of three; (3) the large heat capacity of the ocean and the rate of heat transport into the ocean sets the time scale for the
climate system to approach energy balance
equilibrium.
The diagnosis of global radiative
feedbacks allows better understanding of the spread of
equilibrium climate sensitivity estimates among current GCMs.
Step changes to
climate like El Nino or volcanic eruptions will impact
climate for short periods because negative
feedback loops take some time to recover to their
equilibrium.
For a slow
feedback climate sensitivity of 6 C for doubled CO2, the
equilibrium temperature response would be expected to take much longer (at least several millennia), since this response has been shown to be a strong function of
climate sensitivity (Hansen et al., 1985).
Webb et al. (2006), investigating a selection of the slab versions of models in Table 8.1, found that differences in
feedbacks contribute almost three times more to the range in
equilibrium climate sensitivity estimates than differences in the models» radiative forcings (the spread of models» forcing is discussed in Section 10.2).
IPCC projections are consistent with our understanding of the time scale of the ice - albedo
feedback and
equilibrium change in sea level rise due to paleo
climate data.
The Planck response is a negative
feedback; including it, the total
feedback is -(1 /
equilibrium climate sensitivity) and must be negative in order for
equilibrium climate sensitivity to be finite.
The IPCC defines
climate sensitivity as
equilibrium temperature change ΔTλin response to all anthropogenic - era radiativeforcings and consequent «temperature
feedbacks» — further changes in TS that occur because TS has already changed in response to a forcing — arising in response to the doubling of pre-industrial CO2 concentration (expected later this century).
Worst of all, a 4 C world may not be a stable
climate state —
climate feedbacks at 4 C may make a higher
equilibrium point inevitable.
We assume that Chylek (2008) is right to find transient and
equilibrium climate sensitivity near - identical; that allof the warming from 1980 - 2005 was anthropogenic; that the IPCC's values for forcings and
feedbacks are correct; and, in line 2, that McKitrick is right that the insufficiently - corrected heat - island effect of rapid urbanization since 1980 has artificially doubled the true rate of temperature increase in the major global datasets.
Spencer's assertion in his book of that there has been a «mix - up between cause and effect» is quite a different conclusion from his recent article published in the Journal of Geophysical Research — Atmospheres in 2010, which concluded innocuously that «since the
climate system is never in
equilibrium,
feedbacks in the
climate system can not be diagnosed from differences between
equilibrium climate states»... despite the fact that this is the exact diagnosis supporting his conclusion in the book.