there are several facts nearly universally agreed as being historically accurate (empty tomb,
finding of the tomb by a group of his women followers, appearances of resurrected Jesus and the origin of the unshakable conviction among followers and enemies alike that they had witnesses a resurrected Jesus.)
«This is the most important discovery since
the finding of the tomb of Tutankhamen in 1922,» Hawass says.
Not exact matches
If you need other portions
of the question posed, which you rejected earlier as an atheist trick, then tell me what the many women who are sometimes two women and somethines one woman
found at the
tomb, including whether the stone was in place, who they
found and where, and the other details.
It was
found during restoration work at the Church
of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem, which is built on the site believed to be where Jesus»
tomb was.
@fimeilleur actually i can back up the claims i make both personally and historically, one example Abraham, Machpelah (actual location
of his
tomb and remains along with 5 others in Israel right where they are supposed to be) Kedorlaomer king
of Elam, (defeated by Abraham and recently discovered) it is said Abraham believed God and it was credited to him as righteousness.More than that Abraham saw God and spoke with Him, not the god you are on about that men use to justify their evil intent, but the God who has created all things, the God that no one especially you can not contain.Ignorance is your choice but that will not negate the existence
of God in any way.No one that i am aware
of has all the answers at this point regarding spiritual things, evolution or evilution there are areas God has not yet revealed to mankind but every day more is discovered.I
find it amazing that God is big enough to share discovery even with those who would reject Him.
With time, the location
of the
tomb was forgotten until in the 9th century a hermit, Pelayo, informed the Bishop
of Iria, Theodomir,
of the appearance
of stars and strange lights and, excavating, they
found the
tombs of James and his disciples, the place thenceforward being named Santiago de Compostela (
of the burial place).
I'm referring to historical facts about Jesus
of Nazareth that scholars agree on - namely, that Jesus was crusified; he was buried in a
tomb by a member
of the Jewish sanhedrin; the
tomb was
found empty by some
of his women followers; Jesus's deciples had experiences
of Jesus alive from the dead; and the deciples began a movement that was so un-Jewish based on the belief that Jesus rose from the dead.
His body was put in a new
tomb, but when early on the Sunday morning, the day after the Sabbath, some
of the women who had followed Jesus went there to prepare his body for burial, they
found that the stone across the entrance to the
tomb, which was a cave, had been rolled away and that the
tomb was empty.
In John, Mary,
finding the
tomb laid open by the removal
of the covering stone, concludes without investigation that the body has been removed by some person or persons unknown, and reports to the disciples in that sense, but as in Matthew, a meeting with Jesus himself resolves all uncertainty.
Luke adds that the discovery was afterwards confirmed: «Some
of our people went to the
tomb and
found things just as the women had said.»
Because
of the tendency
of the illiterate to want religion presented to him in a way which suits his imagination, we
find that educated Muslims today disapprove
of the innovations invented by the Sufi orders, such as veneration
of saints, seeking blessings from
tombs, seeking the mediation
of religious leaders, and excessive asceticism.
Had he known that the
tomb was
found empty it seems inconceivable that he should not have adduced this here as a telling piece
of objective evidence.
The
tomb where the disciples had laid the Lord's body
found empty, along with the reports
of His appearances after His burial, especially at His ascension, are eyewitness accounts and actual evidence for His resurrection given by His devout followers.
For myself I
find these historical arguments quite compelling; but my fundamental reason for basing my Easter sermon on the appearances
of Jesus, and not on the empty
tomb, is not historical but religious.
Inside the
tomb they
find an angel (a young man in a white robe, a regular way
of describing a supernatural being).
This being so, it is an important fact that this very early account
of Easter makes no mention
of the
tomb being
found empty.
The attempts to rewrite textbooks in Texas and to twist the words
of our
founding fathers (a la David Barton) are not much different than the Taliban blowing up Buddhist shrines in Afghanistan or destroying Hindu
tombs in Pakistan.
If you want to
find more pieces
of evidence that this is not the real
tomb of Jesus, I recommend this article by Darrel Bock, and this book by Rene Lopez: The Jesus Family
Tomb Examined.
Third Jesus
tomb and bones: No bodily resurrection and maybe they will
find also the kind
of cigars He smoked!
Did Magdalene
find the empty
tomb and bring back to the other women and then to the men a story
of visions so vivid they made them their own?
First, it is plain that the empty
tomb was not the originating factor since careful critical study
of the material
found at the end
of all four Gospels makes it clear that the stories about the empty
tomb are more in the category
of Christian apologetic — however honestly believed and taught at the time when the Gospels were compiled from earlier oral tradition — than in that
of historical reporting.
Some have said — and doubtless the majority
of believers have assumed that after Jesus» burial there was a rising such that the
tomb in which he had been laid was
found empty.
Long after the martyrdom and burial
of Thomas, when king Mazdai opened the
tomb of the apostle with the hope
of healing his sick son with the touch
of the relics, the bones were not
found, «for one
of the brethren had taken them away secretly and conveyed to the west».
The memorials for Shakespeare, Austen and Wilde --- as well as the
tombs of Chaucer and Dickens - can be
found in Poets» Corner, a popular area
of the church that pays tribute to the nation's long legacy
of literary greatness.
(CNN)-- Rob Cargill doubts an archaeologist actually
found early signs
of Christianity in the so - called «Jesus Family
tomb.»
But if Wilckens is right in saying that «Paul himself obviously has no concrete knowledge about Jesus» grave, nor
of the
finding of the empty
tomb», 20 then any such traditions could hardly have been historical, for if so, Paul would certainly have learned
of them when he conferred with Peter.
G. W. H. Lampe says
of this important passage, «Had he known that the
tomb was
found empty it seems inconceivable that he should not have adduced this here as a telling piece
of objective evidence.»
But none
of the apostles figure in this story, and whatever historical element may reside in it, it was not the
finding of the empty
tomb that brought the apostles to faith in the risen Christ, and if Paul ever heard the story he never thought it worth a mention, even when he assembled the evidence
of witnesses in I Corinthians 15.
The chief arguments used to support the traditional view
of the empty
tomb story — known as «bodily resurrection», and why many scholars today fail to
find them convincing.
We can certainly say that his real climax is in the Passion narrative, for the
tomb pericope which now ends the Gospel has little
of the Easter joy and human interest that are to be
found in John's
tomb story.
Sometimes resurrection looks like standing outside
of the
tomb of the one whom you love, weeping without consolation only to
find yourself in his presence.
Paul does not mention the
finding of the empty
tomb, and it may be safely presumed that he does not know
of it.
Mark's Gospel manifestly appeared at a time when such a question might be asked as: «Why did we not hear
of this
finding of the empty
tomb before?
Certain key historical facts are well established: the death by crucifixion and burial
of Jesus, reports that his
tomb had been
found empty, and that some
of Jesus» followers had experiences (they believed)
of the risen Jesus.
Jesus»
tomb was
found empty by a group
of his women followers.
As the main body
of the Gospel is left, the story
of the resurrection is reduced to terms so simple that only the
finding of an empty
tomb and the word
of a young man that Jesus was not there remain; Jesus himself is not seen and the three women who
found the
tomb empty are too terrified to tell any one.
At the beginning
of the project, the team
found a slab
of marble from the era
of the Crusaders and under that they
found a
tomb that is widely believed to be the
tomb Jesus was buried in.
It is
found as hieroglyphics on the walls
of old
tombs.
Mark leaves all this out
of his account, where the women are surprised to
find the
tomb open and venture inside before they receive news about Jesus.
@Chad «lol actually, I «m not aware
of any scholar (atheist, agnostic, whatever) that claims that the
tomb was not
found empty.
I see you still refuse to support your as.sertion that a «majority
of scholars» agree that Jesus was berried in a
tomb, and that said
tomb was later
found empty.
7) After his death his disciples, skeptics and persecutors
of disciples: A. Reported
finding an empty
tomb B. reported having met a resurrected Jesus Christ 8) Some
of his disciples were persecuted for refusing to recant the statement that they had met a physically resurrected Christ.
Three days after His death by crucifixion, that
tomb was
found to be empty by a group
of His women followers 3.
Surely you are aware that the «archeologists» who «
found» the purported
tomb of Jesus are showmen and not legitimate archeologists.
All tell
of the
finding of the empty
tomb (Mk 16:1 - 8; Mt 28:1 - 10; Lk 24:1 - 12; cf. Jn 20:1 - 18), with just enough differences among them to prevent an assured reconstruction
of exactly what happened, while at the same time demonstrating the existence
of independent traditions.
She came between the watches
of «cockcrow» and «early» to the sepulcher and
found the stone which sealed the
tomb rolled back and the entrance open.
But a later visitor to the
tomb, Odoric
of Pordenone in AD 1324,
found no Roman Catholics there but only the Nestorian Christians.
That the
tomb was actually entered and
found empty is
of course not impossible.
The story
of her dream, leading to the
finding of the cross, is not mentioned by Eusebius, who was bishop
of Caesarea at the time and left the chief contemporary account
of the discovery
of the
tomb.
Tiger nuts have also been
found in the
tombs of Ancient Egyptian pharaohs and some hieroglyphics depict offerings
of tiger nuts to the gods.